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This is from FireFox on 26Tahoe, I am going to let it set for awhile before I open OCLP to see if a patch is available, right now it is working just about like an unpatched Seq or Sonoma. After I logged back in from the Tahoe screensaver the Tahoe desktop was there briefly and then disappeared.

I reinstalled OCLP from the Sonoma Dortania folder and when I tried to root patch see the screenshot. Interestingly there is a modern audio patch that doesn't show up when patching Seq or Sonoma. This was done without Python.
 

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In Beta 3, restoring AppleHDA.kext with "MyKextinstaller V.3" still worked.

In Beta 4, there's no way to restore AppleHDA.kext, so I have no sound on my late 2013 iMac.

Has anyone found a solution for the sound in Beta 4?
 
Strange things happen on the way to the forum: Things were going well with T26B on the test volume, then I thought I would install the latest 3.0.0n, afterwards the mouse and keyboards of both types stopped working and a message appeared that blue tooth was turned off. I tried reverting patches from another volume, no change.

edit: Erased 26test, started anew.
 

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Hello to all,

It would be remiss not to acknowledge risks inherent in experimenting with nightly OCLP software, and any warning to that effect should be fully appreciated. However, once risks are understood, and potential fallout is limited to the person’s own, non-mission-critical computer, said experiment becomes an exercise in discovery. The benefits of the latter often far outweigh the fall-out from “misadventure”, notably, when playing in one’s own “sandbox”; suo periculo doctrine applies.

iMac 13,2 metal capable :

Installed Tahoe 26 beta4 OTA over Tahoe beta3 on an external SSD. Used OCLP nightly 3.0.0 from July 1st. Slow process, but eventually reached the login screen and then desktop; keyboard and trackpad were fully active. There is a significant system overhead, as evidenced by the Activity Monitor, presumably due to “liquid glass” requirements. “Iconserviceagent” takes over CPU cycles, and becomes even more insidious, when a new window is opened and the system attempts to render application icons within. It took a long time before Dock was displayed, but eventually it appeared and was fully functional.

Operationally, while running beta4, when clicking on icon to start an application there is a significant delay, and sometimes process stalls. However, when tapping with two fingers on icon to activate drop-down menu, then choosing “open” command, the target launches relatively fast, and does not stall. This lag improves dramatically when post-install internal processes complete.

What works: Bluetooth and hence keyboard and track pad. Ethernet is fully functional and Internet can be accessed without issues, camera works, LAN is functional via Ethernet. All native applications, which do not require sound input-output or absolute Metal, launch and work as expected. Tahoe 26 beta4 is actually very “snappy” once background processes are completed, however, it does take a while (CPU dependent). Subjectively, some desktop responses appear to be faster than same actions on accelerated Sequoia.

What doesn’t work: there is no “Graphic Acceleration” , no WiFi, no sound input-output. Fusion Drive (an HDD) is not visible on desktop when booted into Tahoe, and Tahoe installer does not recognize (an internal) fusion HD. That “behavior” was also reported by other posters.



MacBooK Pro 5.2 (Non-Metal reference machine) - an external keyboard and mouse, routed through USB hub, were used throughout the process. Ethernet was used for internet and LAN connectivity.

I was previously able to install Tahoe beta 2 onto an internal SSD drive, with very encouraging results (see post #305)
However, Tahoe beta 3 was not installable on either internal or external SSD, no matter the release date of OCLP 3.0.0 used or Sequoia version underlying the process.

Finally, release of Tahoe developer beta 4 made it possible to install Tahoe on both, an internal and external SSDs. Used OCLP 3.0.0 from July 1, 2025, Each drive had Sequoia 15.6 beta4 pre-installed before Tahoe update.

Tahoe Beta4 installer was downloaded from Mr.Macintosh site (or via OCLP function), and extracted onto an internal and external drives, each operating under Sequoia 15.6 beta4. Thereafter, OCLP 3.0.0 nightly (July 1, 2025 version) was installed on both SSD drives, and, in addition, on a USB thumb drive housing an additional Tahoe beta4 installer.

External SSD installation:
Tahoe beta4 installer was launched from a Sequoia 15.6 beta4 volume, on an external SSD, targeting “itself” for update.
Installation took an extended period of time, but did complete, and presented a login window with an active external keyboard and mouse. Past password entry, it took a very long time for fully functional desktop to stabilize and allow applications to be launched.

Internal SSD installation:
Booted from a USB thumb drive and launched installer in usual manner. Again, as with external drive, it took long time to reach login widow, but when reached, both, keyboard and mouse were active, and it was possible to enter password.
It took a very, very long time to reach fully functional desktop, but eventually it was possible to launch applications and access internet, etc.

What works:
Applications launch and are active if, sometimes, at glacial speeds (Note: applications relying on metal support or sound are not fully functional). Ethernet (WAN) and LAN are fully active.

What doesn’t work:
There is no Graphics Acceleration, no Bluetooth or WiFi, and there is no sound input or output (as expected due to lack of patches).

Oddly, OCLP 3.0.0 release from 7.14.25 (macOS-next branch with USB mapping) did not work on my machine; it resulted in failed install due to apparent problems with USB port “enumeration”. See a screen shot of the installation log (attached below).

Not sure of what changed in Tahoe Beta 4 release to allow installation, but it was more forgiving of OCLP intervention than Beta3.

It was encouraging to see positive results achieved by @hvds, @deeveedee, @renton and others, which served as background to the Tahoe installation on legacy non-metal machines. Building OCLP from source does seem to produce versions of OCLP better matched to non-metal machines.

Overall, an encouraging sign of progress thanks to developer teams and this forum’s members.

Hope this entry may be of help.

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MacBook Pro 5,2. Tahoe desktop on the internal drive.

MacBook Pro 5,2 Tahoe B4 external.png

MacBook Pro 5,2 Tahoe desktop on external drive

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Error codes OCLP 3.0.0 nightly, July 14 build from macOS-next developer branch.
 
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In Beta 3, restoring AppleHDA.kext with "MyKextinstaller V.3" still worked.

In Beta 4, there's no way to restore AppleHDA.kext, so I have no sound on my late 2013 iMac.

Has anyone found a solution for the sound in Beta 4?
Install KDK_26.0_25A5279m
mkdir ~/livemount
diskutil list
sudo mount -o nobrowse -t apfs /dev/disk(tahoe partition) ~/livemount
sudo ditto /Library/Developer/KDKs/KDK_26.0_25A5279m.kdk/System ~/livemount/System
sudo touch ~/livemount/System/Library/Extensions
sudo kmutil create --allow-missing-kdk --volume-root ~/livemount --update-all --variant-suffix release --no-authentication --no-authorization
sudo bless --folder ~/livemount/System/Library/CoreServices --bootefi --create-snapshot
 
Note: feel free to correct me on anything here, this is just from my own testing and investigation.

I've done some testing with Tahoe on a 2018 MBP (MacBookPro15,1). OCLP is not an option, since the 2018 was never unsupported before and OCLP hasn't been updated yet. So I went with OpenCore and some very basic spoofing. My goal is spoof to 16,1 and see what happens.

RECOVERY
My first attempt was recovery. Booting into recovery directly through OpenCore is not possible. Instead, you have to manually attempt to boot it without OC, which will initiate an iBridge update. After iBridge updates, Tahoe Recovery can be booted through OpenCore with no issues on 15,1. WiFi, external display, SSD, etc. all work fine.

INSTALLATION
Then there is a huge blockade: macOS Installer. Since I did not hide my T2, the installer checks for this multiple times during installation:
  1. When you click Continue on the first page
  2. After extracting SharedSupport.dmg
  3. After extracting the payload .aea file
  4. After extracting the actual BaseSystem
  5. During first reboot phase
These errors occur due to a personalization step in the installer. When it sees the T2, it checks the plists to see if any extra work needs to be done during installation to accommodate for it (eg. update iBridge). By manually extracting SharedSupport and changing all references to the MBP16,2 chip (J152FAP) to the 15,1 one (J680AP), the first two checks are circumvented.

The third check is a bit different, though. The aea file is signed, so you cannot modify it beforehand. This can be circumvented, but requires precise timing. You have to manually patch the plists after the installer extracts them to temporary directories, but before the installer reads them. From testing, you have about 10-15 seconds to do this.

I have not been able to get past the last two checks. They seem to be in plist files deep into the installer and I have not found a way to fix this.

BOOTING FULL OS
After fumbling with the installer for way too long, I decided to just use another Mac to preinstall the OS on an external drive. macOS supports booting from external media, so this is fine. Unfortunately, this was unsuccessful. The system attempts to boot but fails while searching for the root device. More specifically, the APFS driver cannot verify the system image. I have no idea why this happens.

On Macs without T2, the same external SSD works fine for booting Tahoe (even on 9,1!). But it seems that T2 Macs file system verification works a bit differently. I think the OS expects a root hash from UEFI, but OpenCore does not provide one. The APFS driver receives null data, and subsequently panics with the following message:
Code:
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff801f441676): "The global payload bytes pointer is NULL\n" @apfs_vfsops.c:2736

MY EXPECTATION
In Recovery, ioreg properly shows all hardware. It also seems to have attached all drivers. Considering that, I fully expect Tahoe to be possible on this Mac. The APFS issues seem like they are solvable, as long as it is possible to provide the data the OS expects on boot for filesystem verification.
 
Install KDK_26.0_25A5279m
mkdir ~/livemount
diskutil list
sudo mount -o nobrowse -t apfs /dev/disk(tahoe partition) ~/livemount
sudo ditto /Library/Developer/KDKs/KDK_26.0_25A5279m.kdk/System ~/livemount/System
sudo touch ~/livemount/System/Library/Extensions
sudo kmutil create --allow-missing-kdk --volume-root ~/livemount --update-all --variant-suffix release --no-authentication --no-authorization
sudo bless --folder ~/livemount/System/Library/CoreServices --bootefi --create-snapshot
I was able to solve the sound problem on the late 2013 iMac.
With labobamac's SimplyLoader 1.0.1, now also available in English.
Will there ever be full graphics support for NVidia Kepler graphics cards?
 
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It appears that Tahoe has dropped Fusion Drive support.
The installer does not recognize the Fusion volumes and Disk Utility displays the Fusion drive as split SDD and HDD disks. Disk Utility terminal no longer has the resetFusion command.
It seems logical from Apple perspective, since none of the Mac models supported by Tahoe has a Fusion drive. However, a pity for us with old Macs and likes the Fusion drive flexibility.
The issue is not mentioned in the issues list:
So either the devs has not discovered the missing feature, or have no plans to fix it, if even possible.
So now the options are:
1. Skip Tahoe altogether
2. Install Tahoe on a HDD partition not belonging to the Fusion drive
3. Split the Fusion Drive and install Tahoe on the SDD
On the public Beta of Tahoe we can confirm the 'diskutil resetfusion' is still missing. You can not install on fusion, not even create fusion drives or use it afterwards on the installed system.
 
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Tahoe is back. I have some questions about 3.0.0n's is the first insert showing open core package always the latest nightly. What will the assets package do if installed. Does the 3rd insert mean I have, the 7/29 nightly installed. Keep in mind I am not a Dev, just an experimenter with backups.

The last options for screensavers works partially and does have a clock, sleep does not work. Weather, chess, and others sometimes open, then quickly collapse, interestingly chess briefly had my last opening displayed before it quit. Some widgets work but slowly, the 4th screenshot shows some interesting apps. I do not use this Imac for work so T26 is okay for my daily use, although I would switch to another volume for something like doing taxes.

I hope someone can answer the first 3 questions, it would make my experimenting more comfortable, but it is fun just the way it is, and I am able to get over the disappointments pretty quickly.
 

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Tahoe is back. I have some questions about 3.0.0n's is the first insert showing open core package always the latest nightly. What will the assets package do if installed. Does the 3rd insert mean I have, the 7/29 nightly installed. Keep in mind I am not a Dev, just an experimenter with backups.

The last options for screensavers works partially and does have a clock, sleep does not work. Weather, chess, and others sometimes open, then quickly collapse, interestingly chess briefly had my last opening displayed before it quit. Some widgets work but slowly, the 4th screenshot shows some interesting apps. I do not use this Imac for work so T26 is okay for my daily use, although I would switch to another volume for something like doing taxes.

I hope someone can answer the first 3 questions, it would make my experimenting more comfortable, but it is fun just the way it is, and I am able to get over the disappointments pretty quickly.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but everything you wrote is irrelevant. It would be more important to achieve full graphics support for Nvidia graphics cards.
 
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Does your iMac late 2015 (5k) with AMD Radeon have full graphics support?

Thanks for replying, I am an every day user and I am not certain what full graphics means , I do have excellent visuals on things like pics and on Firefox, Apple email etc, for games Chess was visually fine until it disappeared, preview works, the magnifier app works. I wish I had a better understanding of just what full meant in this context. If their was a way to test it I would try.





General Users: For everyday tasks like web browsing, email, and basic photo editing, integrated graphics are often sufficient, offering a good balance of performance and power efficiency
 

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Thanks for replying, I am an every day user and I am not certain what full graphics means , I do have excellent visuals on things like pics and on Firefox, Apple email etc, for games Chess was visually fine until it disappeared, preview works, the magnifier app works. I wish I had a better understanding of just what full meant in this context. If their was a way to test it I would try.





General Users: For everyday tasks like web browsing, email, and basic photo editing, integrated graphics are often sufficient, offering a good balance of performance and power efficiency
Well, that's great... You've been around for so long and still don't know what full graphics support means?

Test different screensavers to see if ALL of them work, then you'll see if FULL graphics support
works with your AMD Radeon graphics card.

It's also called QE/CI in English.
 
Well, that's great... You've been around for so long and still don't know what full graphics support means?

Test different screensavers to see if ALL of them work, then you'll see if FULL graphics support
works with your AMD Radeon graphics card.

It's also called QE/CI in English.
Screen savers so not work as a rule, as I pointed out in post #513 one or 2 work in a muted form there is a dark screen, and a clock. Have you been around long enough to answer the 3 questions I asked, as usual a better response. Please don't take this the wrong way, but the posts about my questions have been irrelevant. Perhaps it should end here.
 
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Screen savers so not work as a rule, as I pointed out in post #513 one or 2 work in a muted form there is a dark screen, and a clock. Have you been around long enough to answer the 3 questions I asked, as usual a better response. Please don't take this the wrong way, but the posts about my questions have been irrelevant. Perhaps it should end here.
Well, you see, good friend, that your AMD Radeon graphics card, like my nVidia (Kepler), doesn't have full graphics support.

The best way to determine this is to test the screen savers.

So, as I said, everything else, like the complaining that the Mac doesn't wake up
from sleep mode and other minor issues, is irrelevant.

Without full graphics support (QE/Ci), it's absolutely no fun or pointless to use
Tahoe on unsupported Macs.
I'd rather use the old Sequoia 15.6, which still works well on the older Macs.
 
"So, as I said, everything else, like the complaining that the Mac doesn't wake up
from sleep mode and other minor issues, is irrelevant."

Just to be clear friend, none of my reports were complaints, just facts and alerts for other experimenters, and what I said was that the Imac doesn't enter sleep mode.
 
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"So, as I said, everything else, like the complaining that the Mac doesn't wake up
from sleep mode and other minor issues, is irrelevant."

Just to be clear friend, none of my reports were complaints, just facts and alerts for other experimenters, and what I said was that the Imac doesn't enter sleep mode.
I'm well aware that this isn't a direct complaint; you don't need to emphasize that.

But as I said, the most important thing for working with or using Tahoe on unsupported
Macs is that the graphics work smoothly, i.e., are fully supported, which isn't currently the case.

And whether the Dortania team or the developer laobamac can manage that is highly questionable.
 
“QE/CI” stands for Quartz Extreme (QE) and Core Image (CI) – two graphics acceleration technologies in macOS:


  • Quartz Extreme (QE) handles hardware acceleration for window rendering and the graphical user interface (e.g., transparent window bars, smooth animations).
  • Core Image (CI) is responsible for GPU‑accelerated image processing (e.g., filters, effects, rendering in applications).

Together, they provide full graphics acceleration, which makes macOS smooth and responsive.


What does this mean for Hackintosh graphics cards?​


  • macOS includes drivers (kexts) for certain Apple‑supported GPUs, such as Intel HD (from Ivy Bridge onward) or specific AMD/NVIDIA models.
  • To enable QE/CI, you often need bootloader patches like Clover or OpenCore along with WhateverGreen and the correct AAPL,ig‑platform‑id configuration.
  • Some graphics cards, like older Intel GMA models or certain GPUs, are not supported by macOS – meaning QE/CI cannot be enabled.

How to check if QE/CI is active:​


  1. System Information → Graphics: The driver (e.g., “AppleIntelHDGraphics”) should be loaded, and entries like “Quartz Extreme: Yes” should appear.
  2. Test system behavior:
    • Is the Finder menu bar transparent?
    • Are Launchpad animations smooth?
    • Desktop switching (Ctrl‑Left/Right) smooth?
    • Does the DVD Player show GPU decoding enabled under “Supported Features”?If all these work fluidly, QE/CI is likely enabled.

Important limitations​


  • Proper GPU kexts and patches are required for QE/CI to work reliably. For some models (e.g., Intel GMA 4500 or Ivy Bridge without the correct platform ID), the system remains slow or glitchy.
  • On newer platforms (e.g., Intel Iris Xe with 11th gen or 500‑series chipsets), full QE/CI support is not possible – even with hacks, the screen may remain black or unstable.



Summary:​


TermMeaning
QEQuartz Extreme – GUI hardware acceleration
CICore Image – GPU‑based image processing
QE/CIBoth enabled together → smooth macOS performance
Is QE/CI available?Only with compatible GPUs and correct configuration (drivers, platform ID, bootloader patches)

If you tell me which graphics card you’re using and whether you’re working with Hackintosh tools (Clover/OpenCore, WhateverGreen, Platform IDs), I can help you determine if and how QE/CI can be enabled.
 
If you tell me which graphics card you’re using and whether you’re working with Hackintosh tools (Clover/OpenCore, WhateverGreen, Platform IDs), I can help you determine if and how QE/CI can be enabled.

Thanks for the effort but I don't do Hackintosh. The AMD Radeon, will do a fine job when the Devs have everything in place, I will wait for that, in the meantime for everyday use T26 is fine for my needs, I even find it to be very quick in Firefox, I do not use this computer for work. I did find out that launchpad has been replace with "apps", it opens but then quickly disappears, that does not bother me because I never use it, the finder menu bar is fine.
 

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