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jkelol111

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Third-party widgets still seem broken for me on the RC.

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ErikGrim

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I’ve been testing Ventura since the get go and I’ve been filing Feedback all along the way. The betas, for me and some others, have gone from great to worse to almost unusable. For others, it runs like a champ! It’s going to be a YMMV situation, and at least in my case, I might be doing a clean install next week. Hasn’t been a good last couple days on my end.
Indeed. Every beta up until b9 was running perfect. Then the nightmare began :/
 
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gank41

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Thanks!! It's only been an hour, but so far so good! I've been beta testing macOS (and OS X) for a long long time, I think at least 12-14 years, and for some reason ONLY the last few days of the prior beta was rebooting me at least 5-7 times a morning. Enough to just throw my hands up and shut it off for the day. I'd feel more comfortable having the full installer, though. I'm thinking I'll do a clean install and "start over" with Ventura.
I woke up this morning and my MBP didn't reboot from a WindowsServer crash! Huzzah!

Setting the bar really low as to temper my expectations...
 

RednBlue

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I've been with every Ventura beta since since the start including switching computers prior to the last beta and - touch wood - it's been reasonably glitch free for me (kiss of death!). Don't like/use Stage Manager so that hasn't caused any problems. Music has been faultless.
 
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gank41

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I woke up this morning and my MBP didn't reboot from a WindowsServer crash! Huzzah!

Setting the bar really low as to temper my expectations...
Still no crashes after almost 24 hours! Doesn't take much to get me excited lol but still feels like I'm about to topple over a house of cards.


****EDIT**** Looks like I spoke too soon. I'm pretty sure my issue lies with Time Machine & Finder in some way. External Drives seem to bring Finder, Time Machine, the Desktop and Taskbar including the clock, to a screeching halt for sometimes many seconds to maybe even 3-5 minutes. Then boom, everything starts working and the beachball's gone. The other day this was happening, but then there'd just be a Kernel Panic & Reboot.. Now so far this has happened to me twice today. I tried going to Applications Folder to open Activity Monitor, and that look as though it was darkened and about to open was frozen in place. I tried Spotlight, but that doesn't open at all. Apple hasn't released the full installer yet, I'll try reinstalling itself again once that's out.
 
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gank41

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Looks like swiping to delete emails in the Mail app on macOS 13 RC isn't working right for me. I should be able to swipe all the way to delete. Now I'm seeing I can only swipe just enough to reveal the option to delete, then I have to click delete itself. Not a big deal, but it's an extra step. Not sure if this is "normal" or expected behavior now. Wasn't like this on the last beta, and it's not like this on Monterey.
 

zorinlynx

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May 31, 2007
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GM came out today, so I decided to jump.

Now I'm starting to regret it. It's been running great all day until just now when a white window appeared on the screen, toward the right side. It didn't seem to be owned by any app that was running. I couldn't close it or make it go away. It was "always on top" so it blocked anything that it was over.

After exasperatingly killing everything I could in Activity Monitor and it not going away I finally rebooted to get it to go away. Anyone else seen this? What the heck could it be??
So good news on this one, I think I tracked it down to iStat Menus. It hasn't happened again, but when playing with iStat menus I realized the white window I saw was exactly the same size and in the same location as one of the iStat dropdowns. My guess is it got stuck somehow.

iStat Menus was the only app I DIDN'T close when trying to get rid of it yesterday. Figures!

So it seems this isn't a bug in Ventura at all, most likely. So we're back to "I haven't had any problems."
 

gank41

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Hahaha...it's crashed for me three times today already. Seems to always happen when switching away from a full screen application
I've been trying to sort all of this out.. I do have iStat Menus installed along with MenuBar Stats for Widgets, and have since disabled iStat Menus and uninstalled MenuBar Stats all together. I am seeing much better performance, but still have the "House of Cards" feeling like I should still expect random crashes. I use most apps in Full Screen mode and just swipe back and forth. I'm seeing WindowServer at the top of Activity Monitor as far as CPU usage goes.

So far after doing this, I've only had one complete crash and burn reboot and a few freezes that have lasted between 2-3 minutes to 5+ minutes each time, and also noting that the freezes happened with only apps like Mail & Messages open along with the few apps running in my Menu Bar. That makes it a little easier to troubleshoot, but I have yet to ultimately find the culprit. I'd prefer to do a clean install of a .1 release as opposed to an initial release, but at this point once the official version is out I'll give that a go. Not looking forward to that at all 😆 🍋 💻
 

gwhizkids

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I've been trying to sort all of this out.. I do have iStat Menus installed along with MenuBar Stats for Widgets, and have since disabled iStat Menus and uninstalled MenuBar Stats all together. I am seeing much better performance, but still have the "House of Cards" feeling like I should still expect random crashes. I use most apps in Full Screen mode and just swipe back and forth. I'm seeing WindowServer at the top of Activity Monitor as far as CPU usage goes.

So far after doing this, I've only had one complete crash and burn reboot and a few freezes that have lasted between 2-3 minutes to 5+ minutes each time, and also noting that the freezes happened with only apps like Mail & Messages open along with the few apps running in my Menu Bar. That makes it a little easier to troubleshoot, but I have yet to ultimately find the culprit. I'd prefer to do a clean install of a .1 release as opposed to an initial release, but at this point once the official version is out I'll give that a go. Not looking forward to that at all

Not sure if you’re like me and have a ton of little menu bar applets running. If so, it simply may be a case of death by a thousand cuts.
 
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gank41

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Not sure if you’re like me and have a ton of little menu bar applets running. If so, it simply may be a case of death by a thousand cuts.
Yup! I do, too. That's why I'm leaning more towards just reinstalling all together. I've tried a BUNCH of apps since getting this M1 MBP and I know there's a lot of 'cruft' left over, even using apps like TrashMe and stuff to remove them.

I think I'm going to hold out until the official RC installer is out, or even the regular release installer, then make a USB installer and install over itself. That tends to fix a lot on it's own and you don't lose your own data or apps. If I'm still having issues, a Clean Install is next...
 

FNH15

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Dictation doesn’t work. It can see that I’m speaking, but my voice isn’t processed.

On a positive note, RC seems to have fixed the internal display flickering…
 

gank41

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Apparently macOS Ventura 13.0 RC 2 (22A380) has been released, but I'm not seeing it OTA or on the portal yet...
 

ColdnFrosty

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Sep 27, 2012
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Search in Mail does not work for me. I type in a search string, hit, return, and nothing - even an obvious email message does not display in the search results.
 

southerndoc

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May 15, 2006
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There's a bug when you try to set the lock screen settings (i.e., from immediately to 30 seconds, 1 minute, etc.). I get a password popup screen, but when I type my password and click modify settings, nothing changes.
 

Wad12355

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Jul 25, 2012
29
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Has anyone else got this weird bug? Every now and then, the "pinch-to-zoom" feature (MacBook i9 16 inch) keeps stopping working, and then I have to "re-enable" it in the trackpad settings to fix it. It started happening only in Ventura (I never had such a thing in Big Sur or Monterey). Also, why there is "A" for the GB input source name?
 
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