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SArum007

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I am running cMP 5,1 (flashed from a 2009 4,1). After reading the threads here, I ran a BootROM dump and the UEFI Tool, and I have a lot of the symptoms that you mentioned indicate a corrupted BootROM/NVRAM. Lengthy/irregular boot times, display irregularities, refusal to boot at all sometimes, and most of this stemming from a recent atempt to install Win10 from a bootable USB stick to a spare drive, which apparently wrote some Microsoft certificates to it... Resetting the NVRAM has not helped. I believe I am in need of a custom BootROM rebuild that I can flash back. Are you able to assist?
 

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I am running cMP 5,1 (flashed from a 2009 4,1). After reading the threads here, I ran a BootROM dump and the UEFI Tool, and I have a lot of the symptoms that you mentioned indicate a corrupted BootROM/NVRAM. Lengthy/irregular boot times, display irregularities, refusal to boot at all sometimes, and most of this stemming from a recent atempt to install Win10 from a bootable USB stick to a spare drive, which apparently wrote some Microsoft certificates to it... Resetting the NVRAM has not helped. I believe I am in need of a custom BootROM rebuild that I can flash back. Are you able to assist?
Sure, I'll send a PM.
 

tsialex

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Hi @tsialex my MacPro(4,1>5,1) won't boot, could you PM me the BootROM reconstruction instructions.

Thanks

PM sent, but you should first flash MP51.fd to a replacement SPI flash or test the backplane with a MATT card and be sure that the backplane bricked and not died for another reason.

More info on the first post of this thread, What to do if your Mac Pro bricked section:

 
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MacModding

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Have you ever helped out a friend or client by mounting a Matt card on the logic board of their Mac Pro,
only for him to find out after a 100-mile trip back home that the Matt card has dropped to
the bottom and is now somewhere behind the cage of the CPU tray?

As "Little Frank" is not so keen on keeping close connections, this solution may come in handy.

You may need an M3.5 x 8mm screw; I suggest you take one away from the PCI-fan, or "borrow" one from the CPU tray.

In case you have access to a 3D printer, send me a PM for a free STL file.
Best printed in heat-resistant ABS or ASA.

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tsialex

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This week I was asked by @Eschers to upgrade a reconstructed BootROM from an early-2009 that I did back in 2020 to the mid-2012 0x0d standard, with base_21 hardware descriptor and everything else. :)

I went back to the original MP41 dump that worked from the build date back in May 2009 up to the end of November 2020 and took a look inside the FTW store (where only MP3,1 and MP4,1 firmwares log the NVRAM resets/garbage collections) and was surprised with so much operations logged, 144 times:


Code:
DECIMAL       HEXADECIMAL     DESCRIPTION
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240027        0x3A99B         BIOS version: MP41.88Z.0081.B07.0910130729
764315        0xBA99B         BIOS version: MP41.88Z.0081.B07.0910130729
1179688       0x120028        NVRAM start of the 1st VSS store
1182766       0x120C2E        NVRAM bluetoothActiveControllerInfo
1183636       0x120F94        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (g)
1185684       0x121794        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (h)
1187732       0x121F94        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (i)
1190371       0x1229E3        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (g)
1192419       0x1231E3        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (h)
1194467       0x1239E3        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (i)
1197086       0x12441E        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (g)
1199134       0x124C1E        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (h)
1201182       0x12541E        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (i)
1203187       0x125BF3        NVRAM SIP state, type: (w)
1204214       0x125FF6        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (g)
1206262       0x1267F6        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (h)
1208310       0x126FF6        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (i)
1310812       0x14005C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1310892       0x1400AC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1310972       0x1400FC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1311052       0x14014C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1311132       0x14019C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1311212       0x1401EC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1311292       0x14023C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1311372       0x14028C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1311452       0x1402DC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1311532       0x14032C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1311612       0x14037C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1311692       0x1403CC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1311772       0x14041C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1311852       0x14046C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1311932       0x1404BC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1312012       0x14050C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1312092       0x14055C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1312172       0x1405AC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1312252       0x1405FC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1312332       0x14064C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1312412       0x14069C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1312492       0x1406EC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1312572       0x14073C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1312652       0x14078C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1312732       0x1407DC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1312812       0x14082C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1312892       0x14087C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1312972       0x1408CC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1313052       0x14091C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1313132       0x14096C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1313212       0x1409BC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1313292       0x140A0C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1313372       0x140A5C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1313452       0x140AAC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1313532       0x140AFC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1313612       0x140B4C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1313692       0x140B9C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1313772       0x140BEC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1313852       0x140C3C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1313932       0x140C8C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1314012       0x140CDC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1314092       0x140D2C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1314172       0x140D7C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1314252       0x140DCC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1314332       0x140E1C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1314412       0x140E6C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1314492       0x140EBC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1314572       0x140F0C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1314652       0x140F5C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1314732       0x140FAC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1314812       0x140FFC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1314892       0x14104C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1314972       0x14109C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1315052       0x1410EC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1315132       0x14113C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1315212       0x14118C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1315292       0x1411DC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1315372       0x14122C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1315452       0x14127C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1315532       0x1412CC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1315612       0x14131C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1315692       0x14136C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1315772       0x1413BC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1315852       0x14140C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1315932       0x14145C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1316012       0x1414AC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1316092       0x1414FC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1316172       0x14154C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1316252       0x14159C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1316332       0x1415EC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1316412       0x14163C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1316492       0x14168C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1316572       0x1416DC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1316652       0x14172C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1316732       0x14177C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1316812       0x1417CC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1316892       0x14181C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1316972       0x14186C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1317052       0x1418BC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1317132       0x14190C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1317212       0x14195C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1317292       0x1419AC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1317372       0x1419FC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1317452       0x141A4C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1317532       0x141A9C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1317612       0x141AEC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1317692       0x141B3C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1317772       0x141B8C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1317852       0x141BDC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1317932       0x141C2C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1318012       0x141C7C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1318092       0x141CCC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1318172       0x141D1C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1318252       0x141D6C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1318332       0x141DBC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1318412       0x141E0C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1318492       0x141E5C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1318572       0x141EAC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1318652       0x141EFC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1318732       0x141F4C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1318812       0x141F9C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1318892       0x141FEC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1318972       0x14203C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1319052       0x14208C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1319132       0x1420DC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1319212       0x14212C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1319292       0x14217C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1319372       0x1421CC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1319452       0x14221C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1319532       0x14226C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1319612       0x1422BC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1319692       0x14230C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1319772       0x14235C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1319852       0x1423AC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1319932       0x1423FC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1320012       0x14244C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1320092       0x14249C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1320172       0x1424EC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1320252       0x14253C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1320332       0x14258C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1320412       0x1425DC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1320492       0x14262C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1320572       0x14267C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1320652       0x1426CC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1320732       0x14271C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1320812       0x14276C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1320892       0x1427BC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1320972       0x14280C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1321052       0x14285C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1321132       0x1428AC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1321212       0x1428FC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1321292       0x14294C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1321372       0x14299C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1321452       0x1429EC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1321532       0x142A3C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1321612       0x142A8C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1321692       0x142ADC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1321772       0x142B2C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1321852       0x142B7C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1321932       0x142BCC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1322012       0x142C1C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1322092       0x142C6C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1322172       0x142CBC        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1322252       0x142D0C        NVRAM reset logged inside the FTW store
1343518       0x14801E        HardwareID Base_xx: 18
1345167       0x14868F        HardwareID 11-digits SSN: CK929xxx8Q0
1345184       0x1486A0        HardwareID 3-digit HWC model: 8Q0
1416499       0x159D33        BIOS version: MP41.88Z.0081.B07.0910130729
4128867       0x3F0063        BootBlock version: AAPLEFI1.88Z.0004.I00.0901121311


I don't remember seeing so much operations logged inside the FTW store with an early-2009 still with the original MP4,1 firmware, but several MP3,1s that I looked over the years had high two digits operations logged.

This is probably useless info, but interesting that Apple back then did thought that it was useful to store the operations with MP3,1 and MP4,1 firmwares but not after. Since the FTW is a big store with 32KB available and the new log is just appended to the end of the list, it's not a problem with erase cycles/SPI life.
 
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jeanlion

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Reading the posts tsialex and other forum members share, now I can also rebuild my boot rom file with intermediate file now.Thanks all of them,and the forums macrumors!!!

Clean the VSS store​

Upgrade to 144.0.0 the lasest version,flash the rom,and cMP works very perfect!!!​

anyone need rebuild the boot rom, may be I could help you and for free😀😀😀,just learn from each other
 
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tsialex

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Does installing a Feature Update cause Windows to write to the BootROM?

If your Windows is UEFI installed and you do not have OpenCore ProtectSecureBoot enabled, the first time you boot Windows UEFI, the BootROM will be signed by Windows UEFI SecureBoot.

Btw, Feature Update is basically a Windows re-install with an upgraded Windows version/build and while doing that is not uncommon to have a Windows boot coup that completely bypass OpenCore. If this unfortunately happens, you should re-flash your reconstructed BootROM image/clean image.

Obviously, if you are using BootCamp/CSM/BIOS Windows installs none of this apply.
 
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With some difficulty I managed to take photos of the EEPROM chip without completely taking my Mac apart (during a routine interior dusting)
I'm 99% sure this is the case, but can the experts here confirm mine is the MX25L3205D chip?
(Macschrauber's backup tool seems to agree)
 

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minimacvi

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hi there Alex,
i guess that i am also in need of a rom rebuild ... my 5.1 is booting fine'ish, but based on your description, my rom appears to be full of stuff, that shouldn't / needn't be there ...
it's a mid 2010 dual hexa-core with a MxxxD chip on the board and here are a few examples from UEFITool:

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would you be free and willing to help me with my rom?

cheers!
 

tsialex

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hi there Alex,
i guess that i am also in need of a rom rebuild ... my 5.1 is booting fine'ish, but based on your description, my rom appears to be full of stuff, that shouldn't / needn't be there ...
it's a mid 2010 dual hexa-core with a MxxxD chip on the board and here are a few examples from UEFITool:

View attachment 2193950

View attachment 2193951

would you be free and willing to help me with my rom?

cheers!

Invalid entries are superseded entries marked for deletion in the next run of garbage collection, from the screenshot it's not possible to know if you have any problems. I've sent you a PM with instructions, get everything as instructed and I'll diagnose it for you.
 

tsialex

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Yesterday's Monterey 12.6.6 (21G644) beta3 have the same EFI version 474.0.0.0.0 for late-2013 MacPro, no changes.

Code:
Hardware Overview:

  Model Name:	Mac Pro
  Model Identifier:	MacPro6,1
  Processor Name:	6-Core Intel Xeon E5
  Processor Speed:	3,5 GHz
  Number of Processors:	1
  Total Number of Cores:	6
  L2 Cache (per Core):	256 KB
  L3 Cache:	12 MB
  Hyper-Threading Technology:	Enabled
  Memory:	16 GB
  System Firmware Version:	474.0.0.0.0
  OS Loader Version:	540.120.3~22
  SMC Version (system):	2.20f18
  Panel Illumination Version:	1.4a6
 

blauesliebe7

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Question, do i need to update my bootrom? I have been having issues with the RX580 even after swapping out the new power supply and buying another one. I am running MacOS Monterey 12.6.5 on a Mac Pro Mid 2012 machine.
Model Name: Mac Pro

Model Identifier: MacPro5,1

Processor Name: 6-Core Intel Xeon

Processor Speed: 3.46 GHz

Number of Processors: 2

Total Number of Cores: 12

L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB

L3 Cache (per Processor): 12 MB

Hyper-Threading Technology: Enabled

Memory: 128 GB

System Firmware Version: 9144.0.9.1.0

OS Loader Version: 540.120.3~22

SMC Version (system): 1.39f11

SMC Version (processor tray): 1.39f11

Does this look right to you?
 

AJ16S

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Hi, I have 2009 MP5,1 running Catalina (courtesy of dosdude1). I worked through the guide at the start of this thread, setting the config per the recommendations for upgrading to Big Sur and after the last reboot was greeted with a "Updates Available" pop-up and an invitation to upgrade to Ventura. I'm only looking to go to Big Sur for now and have an installer ready to go, but my question is whether there's anything I can do to verify that I'm not going to screw up my machine in the process?

I'm assuming that the fact that I have Catalina running gives me no insight to my OC config as it's a dosdude1 patched version (as an aside, I'm running in fear that my bootrom is about to die (thanks @tsialex) but I can't get ROMtool past the "DirectHW.kext could not be loaded" error - I'll figure that out once I have Big Sur running).

Any pointers on what/how to check that I'm good to go? I've been using the machine for a couple of hours and other than some odd graphics "noise" when booting I can't find anything that's misbehaving so far.
 

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Hi, I have 2009 MP5,1 running Catalina (courtesy of dosdude1). I worked through the guide at the start of this thread, setting the config per the recommendations for upgrading to Big Sur and after the last reboot was greeted with a "Updates Available" pop-up and an invitation to upgrade to Ventura. I'm only looking to go to Big Sur for now and have an installer ready to go, but my question is whether there's anything I can do to verify that I'm not going to screw up my machine in the process?

I'm assuming that the fact that I have Catalina running gives me no insight to my OC config as it's a dosdude1 patched version (as an aside, I'm running in fear that my bootrom is about to die (thanks @tsialex) but I can't get ROMtool past the "DirectHW.kext could not be loaded" error - I'll figure that out once I have Big Sur running).

Any pointers on what/how to check that I'm good to go? I've been using the machine for a couple of hours and other than some odd graphics "noise" when booting I can't find anything that's misbehaving so far.

Take some steps back, boot HighSierra/Mojave and then dump the BootROM. You will gonna need a supported macOS release anyway for a rescue disk and its easier then to find what is wrong with your current install.
 
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Take some steps back, boot HighSierra/Mojave and then dump the BootROM. You will gonna need a supported macOS release anyway for a rescue disk and its easier then to find what is wrong with your current install.
Hmm. Installed Mojave on virgin disk, nothing else added, SIP disabled and I still get the Kext Error "DirectHW.kext could not be loaded. The operation cannot proceed." @tsialex is there an idiots guide to get me started or should I just wade through the Bootrom thread?
 

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Hmm. Installed Mojave on virgin disk, nothing else added, SIP disabled and I still get the Kext Error "DirectHW.kext could not be loaded. The operation cannot proceed." @tsialex is there an idiots guide to get me started or should I just wade through the Bootrom thread?

Did you installed any AV or anti-malware? Did you run Software Updates and made all the updates? Did you checked Gatekeeper?
 
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AJ16S

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Did you installed any AV or anti-malware? Did you checked gatekeeper?
The only thing I have that didn't come from the Mojave installer is ROMTool. I have "Anywhere" checked in Security & Privacy. I also tried with kext-consent disabled with spctl but no change (other than I don't get asked to put my passowrd .

The Bootrom thread has references to DirectHW - but I have no clue what to do with that as it appears to just install a framework - and DarwinDumper - but that doesn't have an obvious option to dump the bootrom.
 
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