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MarkC426

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Thinking about putting Mojave onto another ssd.
The new fw and changing to apfs won’t affect my other ssd with hs hfs+ will it.
Planning to keep using hs, so mojave is just to check it out.
 

tsialex

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Thinking about putting Mojave onto another ssd.
The new fw and changing to apfs won’t affect my other ssd with hs hfs+ will it.
Planning to keep using hs, so mojave is just to check it out.

No, it will only convert to APFS the disk that you install Mojave.

13[8,9].0.0.0.0 don't change the ability of booting previous macOS versions.
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Is there a tweak to run the 138.0.0.0 Firmware update with an unsupported (EFI) GPU ? Have a customers 5.1 Box with MP51.0089.B00 and HD5770 (got to be upgraded with a GTX680) and I'm a little nervous to just force the Update.
Just use a Metal Supported GPU to upgrade MP51.0089.B00 to 138.0.0.0.0, you don't need a Metal GPU to run 13[8,9].0.0.0.0 with any previous macOS version.
 
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rippiedoos

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The creator of the Matt-card had released a specific MacPro-card.

http://www.cmizapper.com/buy/mattcard-mac-desktops.html

Just plug in the card and you have an override EFI-ROM so you don’t need to desolder the chip. And it’s easy to flash as it can be detached from the motherboard and flashed standalone.

No, I’m not the creator of these cards and not affiliated with this guy. I just received a mail from him with the updated product.
 

MisterAndrew

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New firmware update today. 140.0.0.0.0. Not sure what changes it contains. No boot screens for non-EFI cards.

Screen Shot 2018-10-08 at 10.25.02 AM.png
 

tsialex

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Apple released today 10.14.1 DP3. MP51 got a new BootROM: 140.0.0.0.0

Code:
$IBIOSI$ MP51.88Z.F000.B00.1809191555
Apple ROM Version
  Model:        MP51
  EFI Version:  140.0.0.0.0
  Date:         Wed Sep 19 15:49:52 2018
  Build Type:   Release

Same Intel microcodes:

Screen Shot 2018-10-08 at 14.41.41.png


NVMe EFI module already injected:

Screen Shot 2018-10-08 at 15.18.42.png


PCIe drives still recognised as external.
 
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LightBulbFun

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New firmware update today. 140.0.0.0.0. Not sure what changes it contains. No boot screens for non-EFI cards.

View attachment 793191

out of curiosity how did you apply this one?

im curious if you still need to run the installer.app to get the FW update or if apple has finally patched their stuff so MP5,1 FW updates now install via System update like other macs

(im not on the beta profile so I have to install the MP5,1 FWs via running the .app from the recovery dmg or such)
 

MisterAndrew

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out of curiosity how did you apply this one?

im curious if you still need to run the installer.app to get the FW update or if apple has finally patched their stuff so MP5,1 FW updates now install via System update like other macs

(im not on the beta profile so I have to install the MP5,1 FWs via running the .app from the recovery dmg or such)

I keep a seperate beta install of Mojave with the developer seed. I downloaded the update and told it to restart in an hour. Then I copied the recovery hd package from the Updates folder in Library after it downloaded into another folder. Then I opened the recovery hd package with Pacifist and extracted the DMG in resources. Then I mounted that and opened Base System and then opened the Install MacOS app to apply the firmware update.
 

skizzo

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I personally do not have a real (work related) need for a NVMe drive so the hacked support for it did not appeal to myself too much. I will be keeping my eye out for good prices on a controller and PCIe NVMe now for the sake of "why not?!" given it is supported natively lol
 

Balaise

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Very nice surprise! The bonus point will be if the disk icon and status will change to non removable...
 

LightBulbFun

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Checked three times. It's real!!! Apple included the NVMe EFI module!!!!

View attachment 793231

It's a different NVMe EFI module than MP61:

View attachment 793235

Woo! Thank you Apple! sadly I dont have any NVMe devices to test the new native driver out with, but id be very interesting in hearing how well it functions and if NVMe devices are properly recognised as internal devices now? I wonder if they will add an FL1100 USB3 driver to EFI next? :D

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Phraenque

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I personally do not have a real (work related) need for a NVMe drive so the hacked support for it did not appeal to myself too much. I will be keeping my eye out for good prices on a controller and PCIe NVMe now for the sake of "why not?!" given it is supported natively lol

Hi Skizzo, I see in your signature that you have a GT120/RX580 combo in your cMP. Is there a particular reason why that works in your machine, because several forum members (I included) said this combo did't work? What's the secret?
 

tsialex

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Woo! Thank you Apple! sadly I dont have any NVMe devices to test the new native driver out with, but id be very interesting in hearing how well it functions and if NVMe devices are properly recognised as internal devices now? I wonder if they will add an FL1100 USB3 driver to EFI next? :D

View attachment 793244
AHCI still external…
 

bsbeamer

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For whomever is testing the 140.0.0.0.0 firmware, it may be helpful to report success with your brand/model adapter, the NVMe SSD brand/model/capacity, and if this is indeed your boot drive so a reference list can be built. A lot more people will be interested in moving to NVMe in the next few months if it's officially supported by Apple.

Hope @tsialex gets a thank you from Apple in the release notes for the tireless work on this!
 

tsialex

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For whomever is testing the 140.0.0.0.0 firmware, it may be helpful to report success with your brand/model adapter, the NVMe SSD brand/model/capacity, and if this is indeed your boot drive so a reference list can be built. A lot more people will be interested in moving to NVMe in the next few months if it's officially supported by Apple.

Hope @tsialex gets a thank you from Apple in the release notes for the tireless work on this!
AFAIK, only NVMe drive that do NOT work is Samsung 950 PRO.
 
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crjackson2134

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For whomever is testing the 140.0.0.0.0 firmware, it may be helpful to report success with your brand/model adapter, the NVMe SSD brand/model/capacity, and if this is indeed your boot drive so a reference list can be built. A lot more people will be interested in moving to NVMe in the next few months if it's officially supported by Apple.

Hope @tsialex gets a thank you from Apple in the release notes for the tireless work on this!

All my specs are listed in my signature and yes, this is my boot drive. I didn't inject anything related to NVMe. This is a pure Apple upgrade folks.

Sorry I can't post more right now.

I've got to go change underwear, I just Shipped my pants ;)
 

skizzo

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Hi Skizzo, I see in your signature that you have a GT120/RX580 combo in your cMP. Is there a particular reason why that works in your machine, because several forum members (I included) said this combo did't work? What's the secret?

I have used both GPU's simultaneously in a couple OSX versions. Honestly the only reason I have both is for easy access to the boot manager screen holding ALT at startup, as well as both of the my terribly (but work for my workflow) outdated 1600x900 resolution monitors have VGA and DVI inputs. Since the RX580 only has 1 DVI out I still needed to use the GT120 until I got a HDMI to DVI cable.

Using a GT120 and RX580 simultaneously worked for me in all High Sierra versions, where it got its most use/testing. I know it worked for me in Sierra 10.12.6 also, but not near as much use/testing. I am also thinking it worked in El Captain 10.11.6.....but don't recall since I literally only installed El Captain in order to upgrade to Sierra and High Sierra. I never actually used/tested it in El Captain.

I did not do anything special to get this combo working. RX580 is in slot #1 and GT120 has been in slot #3 and #4 for the extended testing. It worked in slot #2 also but one of the RX580 fans wanted to catch the GT120 directly above and gave me some overheating issue I think one day so slots #3 and #4 were the best option for use and cooling.

I am waiting for things to iron out a little more in Mojave before I make a separate drive for that OS. But I already know ahead of time that the GT120 is not really compatible. So if you are talking exclusively about Mojave not working with this combo, that is a known "issue". Not really an issue, its just that the GT120 is so old and does not support the required version of Metal that Mojave needs to run smoothly. From other's feedback, it sounds like the GT120 is "usable" in Mojave but very laggy (lacks acceleration) and I'm sure has a handful of graphical glitches.
 

eksu

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Checked three times. It's real!!! Apple included the NVMe EFI module!!!!

Wow, unbelievable.

Are there any other requests we need to make to Apple? Support for X5698 & X5687 processors? UEFI bootscreens?

EDIT: Obviously the correct answer was ‘Vega Fan Fix’, so I can put a Frontier Edition in my cMP.


I am excited to soon be reading about what the best NVMe drive options are for the cMP. I better get myself a highpoint adapter.
 
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tsialex

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Wow, unbelievable.

Are there any other requests we need to make to Apple? Support for X5698 & X5687 processors? UEFI bootscreens?

I am excited to soon be reading about what the best NVMe drive options are for the cMP. I better get myself a highpoint adapter.
Start asking for HEVC encoding with RX580, maybe if enough people request it, Apple will enable it for MP51.
 
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