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bsbeamer

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tsialex said:
Apple is testing a small installer that downloads everything needed as you need it. I never got this to work with my Mac Pro.

Download the full 18B75 installer via installinstallmacos.py.
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Maybe I'm part of the "lucky" group?
Not looking to install Mojave yet, just the 140 firmware update so this works in my favor.
Going to duplicate & save the smaller .app installer. If anyone needs a file readout or useful info can be pulled, let me know steps or PM.
 
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bookemdano

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Interesting. First fw update attempt failed--just rebooted without opening optical drive tray (possible I held the power button too long that time)

Second attempt seemed to succeed. DVD drive tray opened, but after a minute or so the cMP just shut off, with the drive tray open. That made me really nervous. I pressed the power button thinking the worst, but it happily powered on, chimed and booted back into 10.14.0. Boot rom is now showing 140.0.0.0.0. So all seems well?

As an aside, I have run binwalk at various points. Here are the results from 138.0.0.0.0 prior to installing Win10 in UEFI mode:

Code: 
DECIMAL       HEXADECIMAL     DESCRIPTION

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0             0x0             UEFI PI firmware volume

16524         0x408C          UEFI PI firmware volume

24972         0x618C          CRC32 polynomial table, little endian

35787         0x8BCB          mcrypt 2.2 encrypted data, algorithm: blowfish-448, mode: CBC, keymode: 8bit

49948         0xC31C          UEFI PI firmware volume

524288        0x80000         UEFI PI firmware volume

540812        0x8408C         UEFI PI firmware volume

549260        0x8618C         CRC32 polynomial table, little endian

560075        0x88BCB         mcrypt 2.2 encrypted data, algorithm: blowfish-448, mode: CBC, keymode: 8bit

574236        0x8C31C         UEFI PI firmware volume

1048576       0x100000        UEFI PI firmware volume

1114112       0x110000        UEFI PI firmware volume

1195230       0x123CDE        XML document, version: "1.0"

1210894       0x127A0E        XML document, version: "1.0"

1260766       0x133CDE        XML document, version: "1.0"

1343538       0x148032        bzip2 compressed data, block size = 100k

1376256       0x150000        UEFI PI firmware volume

And here is 138 after installing Win10 UEFI:

Code: 
DECIMAL       HEXADECIMAL     DESCRIPTION

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0             0x0             UEFI PI firmware volume

16524         0x408C          UEFI PI firmware volume

24972         0x618C          CRC32 polynomial table, little endian

35787         0x8BCB          mcrypt 2.2 encrypted data, algorithm: blowfish-448, mode: CBC, keymode: 8bit

49948         0xC31C          UEFI PI firmware volume

524288        0x80000         UEFI PI firmware volume

540812        0x8408C         UEFI PI firmware volume

549260        0x8618C         CRC32 polynomial table, little endian

560075        0x88BCB         mcrypt 2.2 encrypted data, algorithm: blowfish-448, mode: CBC, keymode: 8bit

574236        0x8C31C         UEFI PI firmware volume

1048576       0x100000        UEFI PI firmware volume

1114112       0x110000        UEFI PI firmware volume

1187615       0x121F1F        Certificate in DER format (x509 v3), header length: 4, sequence length: 986

1191086       0x122CAE        XML document, version: "1.0"

1253151       0x131F1F        Certificate in DER format (x509 v3), header length: 4, sequence length: 986

1256622       0x132CAE        XML document, version: "1.0"

1343538       0x148032        bzip2 compressed data, block size = 100k

1376256       0x150000        UEFI PI firmware volume

And here is the dump from just now after installing 140

Code: 
DECIMAL       HEXADECIMAL     DESCRIPTION

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

0             0x0             UEFI PI firmware volume

16524         0x408C          UEFI PI firmware volume

24972         0x618C          CRC32 polynomial table, little endian

35787         0x8BCB          mcrypt 2.2 encrypted data, algorithm: blowfish-448, mode: CBC, keymode: 8bit

49948         0xC31C          UEFI PI firmware volume

524288        0x80000         UEFI PI firmware volume

540812        0x8408C         UEFI PI firmware volume

549260        0x8618C         CRC32 polynomial table, little endian

560075        0x88BCB         mcrypt 2.2 encrypted data, algorithm: blowfish-448, mode: CBC, keymode: 8bit

574236        0x8C31C         UEFI PI firmware volume

1048576       0x100000        UEFI PI firmware volume

1114112       0x110000        UEFI PI firmware volume

1187615       0x121F1F        Certificate in DER format (x509 v3), header length: 4, sequence length: 986

1343538       0x148032        bzip2 compressed data, block size = 100k

1376256       0x150000        UEFI PI firmware volume

So interesting how the certificate at 1253151 is gone now, along with the XML documents that were there since 138.
 
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Flocarino said:
I downloaded the Recovery pkg...but doesn't install
I am already on 10.14.1
Am I missing something?
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Read the post about manually installing the BootROM using the new RecoveryUpdate, I linked the correct file, just follow the steps in the post.

Download and open Mac App Store full installer for 10.14.1 or force the install with 10.14.1 RecoveryHDMetaDmg.pkg.

Mac Pro 5,1 don't automatically install firmware upgrades.
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Flocarino said:
Ahh forget it, I don't want to brick my dear Mac, I thought it will be done automatically with the online update, not by some manual codes, etc....
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Again: Mac Pro 5,1 don't install firmware upgrades automatically.

Download the full Mac App Store installer, and open it. The RecoveryHDMeta.pkg is ~450MB, the full installer is ~6GB.
 
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tsialex said:
Again: Mac Pro 5,1 don't install firmware upgrades automatically.

Download the full Mac App Store installer, and open it. The RecoveryHDMeta.pkg is ~450MB, the full installer is ~6GB.
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So it's like going to .0089 on 10.13.6, right? You couldn't do the combo update, but had to download the full installer. I haven't upgraded to Mojave yet, so when I download the full installer, I get 10.14.1 (full installer) and it upgrades the firmware to 140.0.0.0, correct?
 
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fatespawn said:
So it's like going to .0089 on 10.13.6, right? You couldn't do the combo update, but had to download the full installer. I haven't upgraded to Mojave yet, so when I download the full installer, I get 10.14.1 (full installer) and it upgrades the firmware to 140.0.0.0, correct?
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As long as you are on 0089 now, then yes you can go directly to 140.
 
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fatespawn said:
So it's like going to .0089 on 10.13.6, right? You couldn't do the combo update, but had to download the full installer. I haven't upgraded to Mojave yet, so when I download the full installer, I get 10.14.1 (full installer) and it upgrades the firmware to 140.0.0.0, correct?
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Yes.

Mac Pro don't do firmware upgrades with delta updates. I've updated the first post with the 3 possible options you have.
 
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bsbeamer

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fatespawn said:
So it's like going to .0089 on 10.13.6, right? You couldn't do the combo update, but had to download the full installer. I haven't upgraded to Mojave yet, so when I download the full installer, I get 10.14.1 (full installer) and it upgrades the firmware to 140.0.0.0, correct?
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Should be, yes... but believe you do not need an EFI GPU, just a Metal one.

I'm on 10.13.6 with 138 firmware and GTX 1080 FE installed right now. Going to update to 140 firmware shortly. Will report back as soon as I update with the download from Mac App store at 22.8 MB. Waiting for a full system clone to complete before doing anything.

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Well, I'm still on High Sierra because of my Nvidia GPU. Just downloaded the full 10.14.1 Installer. Because I have an MVC EFI card that shows loading progress that some folks don't like, I was able to follow the FW updating process, there's a couple of verification steps in there. I'm now on BootRom 140.0.0.0.0. Sure wish there was an Nvidia Web Driver. This situation is just getting silly:oops:

Lou
 
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Has anyone tried installing 10.14.1 from USB installer with a GTX 680 yet? If so, does it now work?

FWIW I’m installing from USB with an RX 580 and it works just fine.
 
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Squuiid said:
Has anyone tried installing 10.14.1 from USB installer with a GTX 680 yet? If so, does it now work?

FWIW I’m installing from USB with an RX 580 and it works just fine.
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Probably not. It looks like it's still restricted to a few cards. The installer won't proceed with my Vega under 10.14.1.
 
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tsialex said:
Off-topic:

Btw, people here noticed that HEVC encoding is done by T2 and not by the GPU on the new mini?

When I saw that, my hopes of RX-580 hardware encoding seriously withered.
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bsbeamer said:
Yes, and with that my hopes for a user upgradeable internal GPU in MacPro7,1 slightly decreased. Getting the sense these machines will be treated as more of a closed "box" with all upgrades done externally via TB3 (or another connection). Then you can upgrade modules at will.
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Yeah, I picked that up immediately, since h98 and I have been discussing and testing this in another thread in the Mojave forum about 4K & HDR. What sucks is that they HAD the beginnings of RX 580 HEVC decode in 10.14.0. Then they took it out and closed bug reports and feature requests as if somebody had walked in a room where some rogue engineers were holed up and told them to shut down their illicit operation.

I also share your fear, bsbeamer, that this "modular" thing we're gonna get is going to be an over-Apple-y-fied, smallish, unnecessarily limited system. Because, yano, why NOT take a year and a half to over-design something when all of your target customers would be perfectly happy w/ something barely more Apple-y than a Hackintosh? Or nothing more advanced than an updated cMP cheese grater? Especially when you started over 4 years late??? This makes me really nervous that they're about to swing and miss again.
 
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