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Steve.P.JobsFan

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Funny coincidence, I have a job interview with Kroger this week. Maybe if I get hired, I might be able to find something out about NFC payments? Although I imagine any info I find that hasn't been shared publicly likely isn't wanted to be let out, and I don't want to risk being fired so quickly.
 

TechiEmmanuel

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Funny coincidence, I have a job interview with Kroger this week. Maybe if I get hired, I might be able to find something out about NFC payments? Although I imagine any info I find that hasn't been shared publicly likely isn't wanted to be let out, and I don't want to risk being fired so quickly.

I doubt you'd find anything out unless you get a corporate job in IT.
 

tmiw

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Funny coincidence, I have a job interview with Kroger this week. Maybe if I get hired, I might be able to find something out about NFC payments? Although I imagine any info I find that hasn't been shared publicly likely isn't wanted to be let out, and I don't want to risk being fired so quickly.

My guess is that there's no plan on doing so.
 

Steve.P.JobsFan

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Yeah, don't think I'll be able to find out much about Apple Pay... I get to be the guy who takes groceries to cars in the dead of winter.

On a side note, apparently they have a negotiated employee discount with Apple. Upwards of 12-15% depending on what you buy. They have discounts on all sorts of other stuff, too. :)

http://www.apple.com/us_smb_5000337/shop
 

tmiw

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I went to a Denny's that supports Apple Pay today. They're using MX915s. I don't think this is everywhere yet because I've only found that particular location on the MC map. Added to the wiki in any case.
 

Steve.P.JobsFan

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Somebody just tweeted this at me.... it's from July.

http://www.invenco.com/news/invenco-ncr-driving-self-service/

It would appear NFC should be coming sometime soon to Speedway! Apparently Speedway awarded a contract to Invenco and NCR to upgrade their pumps with the NCR OPTIC 12 - which does NFC.

For reference, this is a Speedway gas pump:

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And this is the image on NCR's website for the OPTIC 12:

optic-12_800x800.jpg

If Speedway deploys NFC chain-wide... that is going to be huge for Apple Pay (and NFC in general), considering they are the 2nd largest chain in the country. That, and it'll get me to start going to Speedway again instead of finding a BP or Meijer. :p


EDIT: After thinking about it... here is what I figure.

Speedway is replacing PIN-pads in the store with the MX915, which we all know does NFC and EMV. But it is disabled... because gas stations aren't mandated to have EMV support until October 2017. Thinking back to when my local BP upgraded their hardware, the project manager from the petroleum company said they don't have the EMV software yet for any gas station.

I believe that Speedway is waiting to get the pumps upgraded to support EMV/NFC, and then actually get the software delivered and pushed out to accept EMV (and NFC) at the pump. At that moment, once the pumps are fully compliant with EMV and NFC, then they will also enable EMV/NFC inside as well, as their MX915s are currently mag-strip only.

I think they just want to enable it inside AND outside at the same time. Makes sense. I just want to see these upgrades done by yesterday! :p
 
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D582

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Speedway is replacing PIN-pads in the store with the MX915, which we all know does NFC and EMV. But it is disabled... because gas stations aren't mandated to have EMV support until October 2017.

The October 2017 date applies to Automated Fuel Dispensers (i.e. the pumps themselves). Payments done in-store were affected by the October 2015 liability shift.
 
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Steve.P.JobsFan

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The October 2017 date applies to Automated Fuel Dispensers (i.e. the pumps themselves). Payments done in-store were affected by the October 2015 liability shift.

Ah, gotcha. I've still yet to visit a single gas station that does EMV inside, though.
 

JohnApples

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Biggby Coffee has the terminals with the big plastic piece sticking out the top with the NFC symbol- even lights up. However none of them have been accepting any of my ApplePay attempts. Some will beep and register the payment, but will decline all 3 of my cards. Added to the not-accepting list.
 

prss14

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Added Hardee's. Went to two different location. Each location had a different card reader. At one location nearly every employee came out to watch me pay. Informed them all they could do the same thing. :)
 

cub850G2

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Added Hardee's. Went to two different location. Each location had a different card reader. At one location nearly every employee came out to watch me pay. Informed them all they could do the same thing. :)
It does indeed work as this is a picture from my local Hardee's: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxAo8FRVIAAa2ik.jpg:large I wonder did your location have the iPP350's or did it have some standalone credit card machine? iPP350's are the corporate system and its not even at all the Hardee's owned by the company who runs my local one. Only ones that have been remodeled/opened recently that gets them.

FYI I had already added Hardee's with Carl's Jr since both are the same company as they serve the same foods. 'Carl's Jr. / Hardee's - Some locations*
 

TechiEmmanuel

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It does indeed work as this is a picture from my local Hardee's: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxAo8FRVIAAa2ik.jpg:large I wonder did your location have the iPP350's or did it have some standalone credit card machine? iPP350's are the corporate system and its not even at all the Hardee's owned by the company who runs my local one. Only ones that have been remodeled/opened recently that gets them.

FYI I had already added Hardee's with Carl's Jr since both are the same company as they serve the same foods. 'Carl's Jr. / Hardee's - Some locations*

Do they have debit routing? I'm not sure of any fast food shops that do besides McD's.

I also think white text/graphics on a black background would look a lot more sleek on the iPP350.
 

cub850G2

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Do they have debit routing? I'm not sure of any fast food shops that do besides McD's.

I also think white text/graphics on a black background would look a lot more sleek on the iPP350.
Zero debit routing just like most fast food restaurants and you mean like what KFC does with iPP350s?
 

prss14

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It does indeed work as this is a picture from my local Hardee's: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxAo8FRVIAAa2ik.jpg:large I wonder did your location have the iPP350's or did it have some standalone credit card machine? iPP350's are the corporate system and its not even at all the Hardee's owned by the company who runs my local one. Only ones that have been remodeled/opened recently that gets them.

FYI I had already added Hardee's with Carl's Jr since both are the same company as they serve the same foods. 'Carl's Jr. / Hardee's - Some locations*

Oops. Completely forgot about Carl's. I went straight to the "H"

I'll take a photo next time I go in.
 

imlynxy

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I've just seen Apple Pay logo in couple of Market Baskets , please add Market Basket to the list.
 

jetsam

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I've just seen Apple Pay logo in couple of Market Baskets , please add Market Basket to the list.
There are two entirely separate Market Basket chains - one in MA/NH/RI/ME and one in TX/LA. Which one are you talking about?
 

cub850G2

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There are two entirely separate Market Basket chains - one in MA/NH/RI/ME and one in TX/LA. Which one are you talking about?
Well I looked on the MC Conctactless locator and I see some Market Basket in the northeast listed but I also see Market Basket in Texas on there so it could be either one. They will indeed have to clarify which one it is.
 

ecschwarz

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Here's something new - a friend of mine and I were at Macy's today (we rarely go) and happened to buy some things…Discover via Apple Pay worked fine for her, but for my turn, my Visa card (credit) caused the register to shut down and reboot twice (card terminal was "processing" and lost the connection to the register once it rebooted). The register looked like it was running Windows 8+ and eventually worked with the same card as a chip. I'm not sure if anyone has seen anything like this before, but I haven't in the 2+ years with Apple Pay…
 
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