Major Retailers that Support NFC Payments

[garyjones027]

So Apple Pay on the phone and watch, which I read is so popular with consumers in the US, cannot be used in the vast majority of restaurants?

You can still use contactless payments and Apple Pay in most restaurants in USA. If the restaurant does contactless payments and Apple Pay, you can say to the waiter you want to use Apple Pay. The waiter will take you to the credit card machine and then you can use your mobile phone to pay. You will receive the receipt there.

 

[Expos of 1969]

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You can still use contactless payments and Apple Pay in most restaurants in USA. If the restaurant does contactless payments and Apple Pay, you can say to the waiter you want to use Apple Pay. The waiter will take you to the credit card machine and then you can use your mobile phone to pay. You will receive the receipt there.

Understood...but wow. When you guys travel to many other countries and go to restaurants and banks etc., you must think you are in some far in the future George Jetson land.

 

[tmiw]

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You can still use contactless payments and Apple Pay in most restaurants in USA. If the restaurant does contactless payments and Apple Pay, you can say to the waiter you want to use Apple Pay. The waiter will take you to the credit card machine and then you can use your mobile phone to pay. You will receive the receipt there.

Personally, I consider this equivalent to not supporting it at all. Really, anything that's effectively discriminating against certain forms of contactless (for example, the QR code thing some restaurants are doing for Apple Pay which prevents use of the Apple Watch) is problematic.

 

[MacDaddyPanda]

I think that’s evident that places like Home Depot, Walmart/Sam’s Club, and others have NFC-capable terminals, but it’s disabled. Additionally, some places have dragged their feet because custom terminal software is common in the US (for marketing/advertising of course), and some of that needed changes to work with contactless. Some bean counter somewhere doesn’t see the value of redoing things to support it.

Sort of related, that’s why a lot of restaurants are still swiping on magstripe readers (or at the very least taking cards to the back instead of running them at the table). With such thin margins, what’s currently is place is seen is “fine enough” until they are forced to upgrade, be it moving away from magstripe or getting and using handheld terminals.

THat's why if I shop Home Depot or Wal-Mart(I only shop there because motor oil is cheaper, otherwise I'd rather avoid shopping there altogether), I shop online at those stores and just have it shipped or pickup. Then I can just use my card securely online from my own device.

 

[lartola]

So Apple Pay on the phone and watch, which I read is so popular with consumers in the US, cannot be used in the vast majority of restaurants?

Well, on the iphone there may be a chance using apple pay online: some restaurants do provide a QR or an app that you can use to pay your check online and usually apple pay is accepted on the website/app. The apple watch, however, is completely out of the question at most US restaurants since it can only do apple pay via nfc and not processing payments at the tables makes that practically impossible.

 

[lartola]

THat's why if I shop Home Depot or Wal-Mart(I only shop there because motor oil is cheaper, otherwise I'd rather avoid shopping there altogether), I shop online at those stores and just have it shipped or pickup. Then I can just use my card securely online from my own device.

If giving all your card details online could be considered secure, that is. They really have no excuse nowadays not to accept at least paypal on their website. That’s why I no longer shop online anywhere they require me to enter my card details as the only way to pay.

 

[lartola]

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You can still use contactless payments and Apple Pay in most restaurants in USA. If the restaurant does contactless payments and Apple Pay, you can say to the waiter you want to use Apple Pay. The waiter will take you to the credit card machine and then you can use your mobile phone to pay. You will receive the receipt there.

That makes it a lot harder, though. As someone else already said, that’s basically the same as not supporting it. It also depends on where they have the computer and pinpad they use to run the cards: many restaurants, if not most of them, have it in an area with access restricted to employees only such as in the kitchen, in the back of the restaurant or behind the bar counter.

 

[AZhappyjack]

So Apple Pay on the phone and watch, which I read is so popular with consumers in the US, cannot be used in the vast majority of restaurants?

It depends on the restaurant and the level of the restaurant... most fast food places take contactless/ApplePay without question. Many of the casual dining places (Chili's, Applebee's, Red Robin, Red Lobster and similar) do, as well. The majority of the "fine dining" establishments do not.

 

[MacDaddyPanda]

If giving all your card details online could be considered secure, that is. They really have no excuse nowadays not to accept at least paypal on their website. That’s why I no longer shop online anywhere they require me to enter my card details as the only way to pay.

Idk about that. Last time my cards were compromised was because someone had physical access. My dentist receptionist was embezzling from them. And took customers cc during the initial take in. Fortunately she eventually got caught and was prosecuted. Since I started using digital only (I.e. online or apple wallet) I have yet to have any issue (knock on wood).

 

[lartola]

It depends on the restaurant and the level of the restaurant... most fast food places take contactless/ApplePay without question. Many of the casual dining places (Chili's, Applebee's, Red Robin, Red Lobster and similar) do, as well. The majority of the "fine dining" establishments do not.

Right. I was mostly speaking of the “fine dining” establishments. Fast Food places really aren’t restaurants and the casual dining places have tablets on the tables, which a fine dining establishment would never do as it makes the tables look cluttered. A few of those fine dining establishments might have an app or QR as an alternative, but the overwhelming majority don’t even have that.

 

[michaelsmith0027]

It depends on the restaurant and the level of the restaurant... most fast food places take contactless/ApplePay without question. Many of the casual dining places (Chili's, Applebee's, Red Robin, Red Lobster and similar) do, as well. The majority of the "fine dining" establishments do not.

Red Lobster restaurants in USA not do contactless payments and Apple Pay.

Red Lobster restaurants in Canada do contactless payments and Apple Pay.

 

[AZhappyjack]

Red Lobster restaurants in USA not do contactless payments and Apple Pay.

Red Lobster restaurants in Canada do contactless payments and Apple Pay.

The Red Lobster restaurants in the Phoenix area do... they have the little Ziosk table-top devices... and you can pick up your receipt at the check-in counter on your way out.

 

[lartola]

The Red Lobster restaurants in the Phoenix area do... they have the little Ziosk table-top devices... and you can pick up your receipt at the check-in counter on your way out.


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yeah, but they might not have those in other cities.

 

[AZhappyjack]

yeah, but they might not have those in other cities.

Well, I just showed you that your statement was incorrect and that is your response?

Please show me that Red Lobster does not accept contactless / Apple Pay in the US.

Why would it work in one location and not in another’ it’s been available here (Phoenix area) for at least 4 years if not longer.

 

[garyjones027]

Well, I just showed you that your statement was incorrect and that is your response?

Please show me that Red Lobster does not accept contactless / Apple Pay in the US.

Why would it work in one location and not in another’ it’s been available here (Phoenix area) for at least 4 years if not longer.

It is on the main list of this forum title in which Red Lobster restaurants in USA do not accept contactless payments and Apple Pay.

 

[lartola]

Well, I just showed you that your statement was incorrect and that is your response?

Please show me that Red Lobster does not accept contactless / Apple Pay in the US.

Why would it work in one location and not in another’ it’s been available here (Phoenix area) for at least 4 years if not longer.

No it’s not. That it works in one city doesn’t guarantee that it will work in all cities. There can still be red lobster locations not accepting. I believe someone else already mentioned at least one above.

 

[compwiz1202]

Those establishments would certainly not get my business. If enough folks continue to eat there, they will have no incentive to modernize.

Exactly. No contactless = No Sale. Plenty of other places of the same genre around here.

 

[compwiz1202]

It is on the main list of this forum title in which Red Lobster restaurants in USA do not accept contactless payments and Apple Pay.

I can't honestly remember if they have the kiosks at ours. I think they went to QR on the receipt with Payments and Rewards combined.

 

[compwiz1202]

Personally, I consider this equivalent to not supporting it at all. Really, anything that's effectively discriminating against certain forms of contactless (for example, the QR code thing some restaurants are doing for Apple Pay which prevents use of the Apple Watch) is problematic.

I don't mind most QR ones unless it's some slow site with 1 point font. Even better if it lets you use contactless within the site.

 

[AZhappyjack]

I can't honestly remember if they have the kiosks at ours. I think they went to QR on the receipt with Payments and Rewards combined.

The QR code on the receipt also shows on the kiosk, but that is only for the Red Lobster rewards, NOT for any wonky payment process.

 

[lartola]

I don't mind most QR ones unless it's some slow site with 1 point font. Even better if it lets you use contactless within the site.

I think that was a very stupid idea on the restaurants’ end. Who in their right mind would turn what historically has always been a card present transaction into a card not present transaction and pay a higher transaction fee by doing that?

 

[lartola]

Exactly. No contactless = No Sale. Plenty of other places of the same genre around here.

Except that when it comes to sit down restaurants in the US, it’s practically the entire business segment that’s no contactless. The ones that actually do are a very small minority. Pretty much only casual dining places such as the aforementioned red lobster, olive garden or Chilis. Any finer restaurants such as Landry’s group or any restaurant that’s not a chain is no-contactless and no pay-at-the table.

 

[echopulse]

Buffalo Wild Wings, Olive Garden, Chili's, Cheddars, Cracker Barrell, Hooters, Applebees, Bob Evans, Dennys, iHop, Dickeys, Huddle House, Longhorn, On The Border, Outback, Red Robin, Wingstop, are just a few of the many sit down resturants that take Apple Pay, at least at some of the locations I have been too.

 

[lartola]

Buffalo Wild Wings, Olive Garden, Chili's, Cheddars, Panera Bread, Cracker Barrell, Hooters, AppleBees, Bob Evans, cicis. Dennys, iHop, Dickeys, golden Corral, Huddle House, Johhny Rockets, Longhorn, On The Border, Outback, Red Robin, Wingstop, are just a few of the many resturants that take Apple Pay, at least at some of the locations I have been too.

Those are all fast food and/or casual dining restaurants. Go to finer dining places such as Del Frisco’s, Morton’s, Capital Grille, Ruth Chris, McCormick & Schmick, Carabba’s, La Griglia, The Palm, Grotto or anything similar to those and you’ll be lucky if they offer any alternative to taking your card away.

 

[echopulse]

Never heard of any of those besides Ruth Chris, and I've only eaten there once in my life. And none of the ones in my list are fast food, except for maybe Cici's but that's more buffet than fast food.