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No BT connected. And battery voltage okay.
This is weird, maybe the RTC is stuck on an invalid date or even not working anymore. Run ASD and see what is going on.

You have at least two issues, the HID waking your Mac Pro and the invalid RTC date.
 
This is weird, maybe the RTC is stuck on an invalid date or even not working anymore. Run ASD and see what is going on.

You have at least two issues, the HID waking your Mac Pro and the invalid RTC date.
That mod=12/31/69 Looks like something common to the Mac keyboard maybe?:
 
That mod=12/31/69 Looks like something common to the Mac keyboard maybe?:
Possible, but I have probably have all Apple USB and Wireless keyboards ever released in my collection except the Magic ones and I honestly don't remember ever seeing that before with my logs. EPOCH is a date that you notice it instantly when it appears, but maybe I never had the same problem.

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I don't think that is related to the Apple KBs, but to USB itself - I googled com.apple.usb.externaldevice and there are lot's of EPOCH dates with some older Macs and Hacks. I'll keep an eye on this.
 
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This is weird, maybe the RTC is stuck on an invalid date or even not working anymore. Run ASD and see what is going on.

You have at least two issues, the HID waking your Mac Pro and the invalid RTC date.
No issues with ASD. This sleep issue is repeatable with 4 cMP, all same specs. The 5th is the same except with a different GPU- HD5770 vs GTX680. Any chance the issue is there? If it is with the GPU, any way to verify?
 
No issues with ASD. This sleep issue is repeatable with 4 cMP, all same specs. The 5th is the same except with a different GPU- HD5770 vs GTX680. Any chance the issue is there? If it is with the GPU, any way to verify?
What is your keyboard and mouse? Are you using the same keyboard and mouse for testing?
 
Quick question... MartinLOs package, 0.7.7, did everything as shown in the video, cMP 4,1->5,1. The Monetrey installer went through -> reboot, then came the bar with the remaining time, at some point -> reboot, then again a bar without a time estimate and this bar is absolutely inching forward ever since, making around 1px per minute or so. It's moving but it's soooo slow. Is that normal? It's running for like half an hour now and only made it half way through so far. So am I wasting my time here or is it really still doing something?
 
What is your keyboard and mouse? Are you using the same keyboard and mouse for testing?
USB Apple keyboards with generic Dell USB mouse. Not same actual devices but same combination. I have already tried replacing with other devices but same result, no sleep. This issue is present with or without booting thru OC as I thought maybe that was the issue.
 
No issues with ASD. This sleep issue is repeatable with 4 cMP, all same specs. The 5th is the same except with a different GPU- HD5770 vs GTX680. Any chance the issue is there? If it is with the GPU, any way to verify?
Wait, you are using Mojave with HD 5770?
 
Quick question... MartinLOs package, 0.7.7, did everything as shown in the video, cMP 4,1->5,1. The Monetrey installer went through -> reboot, then came the bar with the remaining time, at some point -> reboot, then again a bar without a time estimate and this bar is absolutely inching forward ever since, making around 1px per minute or so. It's moving but it's soooo slow. Is that normal? It's running for like half an hour now and only made it half way through so far. So am I wasting my time here or is it really still doing something?
It's hanging. This will occur randomly with the config you are using because it lacks the proper DataHub settings. See post #9,938.
 
very weird the date being EPOCH (12/31/69, 6:00 PM Pacific Time)
Found this reference:
This glitch can happen on any system that uses UNIX’s epoch as the keystone for measuring time and it usually occurs either when the time returns no value or when its value has been reset for whatever reason.

This issue is present with or without booting thru OC as I thought maybe that was the issue.
Try resetting the SMC and NVRAM
 
Yes, if the value is in any way invalid (like zero or negative), it returns EPOCH.
I wonder if this Invalid CDNVA is caused by the same thing, which is actually waking the system?
2022-02-14 19:49:16 -0600 Wake DarkWake to FullWake from Invalid [CDNVA] due to HID Activity: Using AC (Charge:0%)

There is another DarkWake to FullWake from Invalid [CDNVA] due to HID Activity
with MAGICWAKE mod=12/31/69,
 
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Yes, if the value is in any way invalid (like zero or negative), it returns EPOCH. That's why I asked about the RTC, common when the battery failed.


Mojave with an unsupported GPU is running without any GPU power management. Test with a supported GPU.
Will do. Thanks.
 
Update on my upgrade to Monterey the other day from Big Sur.

I'm feeling the same sluggishness with graphical tasks as I did with Big Sur (GTX680). It was blazing fast under Mojave, I didn't run Catalina, so don't know how that compares.

I realize that this NVidia card is now old and not officially supported on Monterey, but it was on Big Sur and this seems to be the same issue. I could play Borderlands 2 flawlessly on Mojave for example, but it's extremely laggy on Big Sur, I haven't tried it on Monterey, but I suspect the same performance, based on how the system is performing. Everything flies in Windows.

Does anybody know where the graphics driver being used for the NVidia cards is coming from that is being used in OCLP for Monterey? Is it the same one from Big Sur? The only thing that causes me to take pause on that assumption is that both my displays worked right out of the box once the OCLP patcher was run, whereas I didn't have both displays without a funky workaround (boot with HDMI unplugged, plug it back in after login) under Big Sur. It of course worked perfectly in Mojave, so wondering if it might be the Catalina one?

Now is not a great time to be buying a graphics card, so I'd like to continue to use this one for the time being until sanity is returned to that market.
 
Yes, if the value is in any way invalid (like zero or negative), it returns EPOCH. That's why I asked about the RTC, common when the battery failed.


Mojave with an unsupported GPU is running without any GPU power management. Test with a supported GPU.
What video card would you recommend... being the price is super inflated now. Is the RX580 the goto or is there another one about that price range I should look at?
 
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What video card would you recommend... being the price is super inflated now.
None right now, besides something like this GT630 until the prices do a real dive.
Is the RX580 the goto or is there another one about that price range I should look at?
You can look at any RX 460/480, 560/580 and Vega 56/64, but don't make any sense to pay current prices. If you really need one right now, try to look at someone selling a PC with one of these GPUs - HP and Dell are the brands I'm looking when trying to get a GPU. Usually the full PC is cheaper than the current exorbitant GPU prices.
 
Update on my upgrade to Monterey the other day from Big Sur.

I'm feeling the same sluggishness with graphical tasks as I did with Big Sur (GTX680). It was blazing fast under Mojave, I didn't run Catalina, so don't know how that compares.

I realize that this NVidia card is now old and not officially supported on Monterey, but it was on Big Sur and this seems to be the same issue. I could play Borderlands 2 flawlessly on Mojave for example, but it's extremely laggy on Big Sur, I haven't tried it on Monterey, but I suspect the same performance, based on how the system is performing. Everything flies in Windows.

Does anybody know where the graphics driver being used for the NVidia cards is coming from that is being used in OCLP for Monterey? Is it the same one from Big Sur? The only thing that causes me to take pause on that assumption is that both my displays worked right out of the box once the OCLP patcher was run, whereas I didn't have both displays without a funky workaround (boot with HDMI unplugged, plug it back in after login) under Big Sur. It of course worked perfectly in Mojave, so wondering if it might be the Catalina one?

Now is not a great time to be buying a graphics card, so I'd like to continue to use this one for the time being until sanity is returned to that market.
I think if you can afford a LM then you should buy a flashed radeon 480/570/580 and save the pain. Having said that, I have 3x gtx680s and one RX480 (all flashed) I did my testing with my spare 5,1 running a gtx680 and had no speed issues but i knew it wouldnt work with monterey. cheers.
 
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Hi everyone, I have a disturbing question about Big Sur. I read in some thread (I don't remember where or who commented on it) that Big Sur doesn't perform well when installed on classic MacPros (obviously through OpenCore).

Our colleague claims that in reality our MacPro will be slower than if it uses operating systems prior to Big Sur.

This observation is a disturbing matter, and now makes me doubt whether or not I should install Big Sur, and stay with Catalina. I don't want to test if this is actually correct, since after returning from Big Sur to Catalina or Mojave the Disk is giving a strange warning on loading the system, a notification about Disk incompatibility, and it seems that solving it will be difficult. This fateful deed is committed in the thread titled "Help - Disk problem now?"

Does anyone know if this is really true that Big Sur is underperforming?

Thanks partners.Greetings from Madrid (Spain)

Jose Antonio.
 
Any warning about installing windows 11 on the same PCIe ssd via bootcamp? I haven't done this in almost 10 years around the time I got my 5,1. At the time I had I bought a second ssd I formatted for mbr and used bootcamp. worked swell at the time. However I see many conflicting reports/links to outdated material. I'm still hanging with mojave atm, open core installed, not sure if its properly installed since i did all the flags for martins monterey install which failed. Hoping i can just have a usb install like i idid 10 years ago, willing to do on the same ssd which is formatted for apples new apfs. Sorry if this is been covered numerous of times, but I've been sifting through the pages trying to find the most relevant for a mojave user using open core supposedly. I get a boot screen with the disks to show up at boot. just looking forward to loading windows and boot back safely. I don't use time machine, never had so I'm counting on it working the first time or loss.
 
I think if you can afford a LM then you should buy a flashed radeon 480/570/580 and save the pain. Having said that, I have 3x gtx680s and one RX480 (all flashed) I did my testing with my spare 5,1 running a gtx680 and had no speed issues but i knew it wouldnt work with monterey. cheers.
Well, it actually works "better" in Monterey than it did in Big Sur, I just find it intermittently laggy, which it wasn't in Mojave, but has been in both Big Sur and Monterey. It flies in Windows, that's the frustrating part.

Think you are the first person to pick-up on, or at least acknowledge the LM ;)

My GTX 680 was an EVGA reference card that I flashed with the Mac Edition firmware. It's been a great card, but I know it's long in the tooth now. Unfortunately, I have a hard time justifying replacing it, given the age of the system, and the fact that nothing I run (Borderlands 2/3, WoT...etc) makes it feel inadequate.

I'm curious to know if anybody knows what changed between Mojave and Big Sur for NVidia support, because it seems performance clearly decreased. It's like they changed the driver they were using, and not for the better.
 
OC 0.7.7. Is the update from 11.6.3 to 11.6.4 a simple OTA update, Ive tried this, it remains on 11.6.3, an extra drive appears in the boot picker, I assume this is to update from, I ve selected this drive it starts to boot, but doesn't complete anything?
 
Hi everyone, I have a disturbing question about Big Sur. I read in some thread (I don't remember where or who commented on it) that Big Sur doesn't perform well when installed on classic MacPros (obviously through OpenCore).

Our colleague claims that in reality our MacPro will be slower than if it uses operating systems prior to Big Sur.

This observation is a disturbing matter, and now makes me doubt whether or not I should install Big Sur, and stay with Catalina. I don't want to test if this is actually correct, since after returning from Big Sur to Catalina or Mojave the Disk is giving a strange warning on loading the system, a notification about Disk incompatibility, and it seems that solving it will be difficult. This fateful deed is committed in the thread titled "Help - Disk problem now?"

Does anyone know if this is really true that Big Sur is underperforming?

Thanks partners.Greetings from Madrid (Spain)

Jose Antonio.
I found Big Sur to be noticeably slower than Mojave (I never ran Catalina, since it wouldn't natively install so I just ran Mojave until I finally decided to use OCLP and do a fresh install of Big Sur), but I find Monterey faster than Big Sur, so...

What are you using for a video card?
 
Any warning about installing windows 11 on the same PCIe ssd via bootcamp? I haven't done this in almost 10 years around the time I got my 5,1. At the time I had I bought a second ssd I formatted for mbr and used bootcamp. worked swell at the time. However I see many conflicting reports/links to outdated material. I'm still hanging with mojave atm, open core installed, not sure if its properly installed since i did all the flags for martins monterey install which failed. Hoping i can just have a usb install like i idid 10 years ago, willing to do on the same ssd which is formatted for apples new apfs. Sorry if this is been covered numerous of times, but I've been sifting through the pages trying to find the most relevant for a mojave user using open core supposedly. I get a boot screen with the disks to show up at boot. just looking forward to loading windows and boot back safely. I don't use time machine, never had so I'm counting on it working the first time or loss.
I did a clean install of Big Sur (with OCLP) then took a separate SSD, started a UEFI Windows 10 install in another computer, when it went to reboot for the first time, I shut it down, put it in my 5,1 and completed the install. This seemed to be the easiest way to get 10 installed. I have 11 on a few machines, but I still prefer 10, so don't mind not having 11 on this machine.

I've since upgraded the Big Sur install to Monterey, no issues to report on that front. Both show up properly in the OpenCore boot selector and I just switch back and forth.
 
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