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Macschrauber

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OK. Something is certainly going on. But in my case (and perhaps for others as well), 12.4 has been fine so far, complicating the task. I did manage to triggering a panic by turning on Voice Control, so that is obviously something to look into. We'd have to identify the changes in 12.4 that could be causing these panics. Given the current logs, APFS could be the cause, but it seems that APFS always gets pointed at when issues come up (notably the Big Sur race condition). Any additional panic logs would be helpful.

this matches to my experiences I noted at https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/opencore-on-the-mac-pro.2207814/post-31111445

the verbose log stopped at botched apfs nodes and rebooted in an endless loop. Firmware upgrade of the SSD cured it.

Maybe a side effect as timing changed. I don't know.

Did a few more 12.4 installations. With a Samsung Pro Sata SSD and even with a spinner without problems.
 
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flang

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looking into reconfig my MP3,1. currently on HS with dosdude.
I'd like to get to Big Sur so that both my Macs are the same OS .... if possible.
The daily is a MM8,1 2018 Intel i7 - 6x 3.2G.

From what I can gather, the 3,1 OEM GPU, ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256 MB, will work with OC.
Would it be a noticeable drag?
I'm using the MP3,1 as a server, 95% of the time. For iTunes (Music) and Emby.

The 2 are connected on a LAN with an unmanaged 5 port with a cell spot and VoIP Telo.

Would the boot be significantly faster or the function better if I upgraded the OWC 3G to a PCIe Drive Kit with OWC Mercury Electra 6G SSD?
 

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looking into reconfig my MP3,1. currently on HS with dosdude.
I'd like to get to Big Sur so that both my Macs are the same OS .... if possible.
The daily is a MM8,1 2018 Intel i7 - 6x 3.2G.

From what I can gather, the 3,1 OEM GPU, ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256 MB, will work with OC.
Would it be a noticeable drag?
I'm using the MP3,1 as a server, 95% of the time. For iTunes (Music) and Emby.

The 2 are connected on a LAN with an unmanaged 5 port with a cell spot and VoIP Telo.

Would the boot be significantly faster or the function better if I upgraded the OWC 3G to a PCIe Drive Kit with OWC Mercury Electra 6G SSD?
With this GPU you won't have any acceleration and screen sharing will be almost impossible to use, you really need a METAL supported GPU - even if it's only for the 5% of the time that you use your MacPro3,1. I'd get a cheap GT 710 or something.
 

tsialex

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thanks very. New or an ebay one should do? Or particular specs?
This post of mine still stands:

 

PeterHolbrook

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We'd have to identify the changes in 12.4 that could be causing these panics. Given the current logs, APFS could be the cause, but it seems that APFS always gets pointed at when issues come up (notably the Big Sur race condition). Any additional panic logs would be helpful.
Perhaps this piece of information won't be very useful, but, for what it's worth, I can say the panics are not related to NVME blades or anything like that, since my cMP is having panics, but all my disks are spinners using various file systems: APFS, HFS+, NTFS, et cetera.
 
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Surf2bikes

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OK. Something is certainly going on. But in my case (and perhaps for others as well), 12.4 has been fine so far, complicating the task. I did manage to triggering a panic by turning on Voice Control, so that is obviously something to look into. We'd have to identify the changes in 12.4 that could be causing these panics. Given the current logs, APFS could be the cause, but it seems that APFS always gets pointed at when issues come up (notably the Big Sur race condition). Any additional panic logs would be helpful.
Hi! I am experiencing also panics with 12.4. See my panic logs here. I am using an unsupported iMac 11,3!
 
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Post #1 now includes some instructions for downgrading the AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib kext that causes kernel panics in macOS 12.4 (look for "NoAVXFSCompressionTypeZlib" in Complete your setup > Spoofing, enabling missing features and other fixes). This should stop the panics. Many thanks to @khronokernel for providing the fix!
 

Gustav Holdoff

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OK. Something is certainly going on. But in my case (and perhaps for others as well), 12.4 has been fine so far, complicating the task. I did manage to triggering a panic by turning on Voice Control, so that is obviously something to look into. We'd have to identify the changes in 12.4 that could be causing these panics. Given the current logs, APFS could be the cause, but it seems that APFS always gets pointed at when issues come up (notably the Big Sur race condition). Any additional panic logs would be helpful.
Two full working days passed without panic
what was done:
restored 12.4 (as i use before VoiceControl issue)
uninstalled avast antivirus
overwritten OpenCore 0.8.0 (edited version of cdf)
SSDT-TBOLT3.aml - false

sleep/wakeup is normal,
external drives via thunderbolt work as standard
standard multitasking with programs archicad, blender, UE5, Twinmotion, iMovie, windows with parallels, safari, chrome, youtube
Earlier I resized and shrinked all my Apple_APFS ⁨Containers by 10% on each disk to get a raw unallocated space
EDITED
This morning i added NoAVXFSCompressionTypeZlib kext
and keep working
EDITED
I removed this kext
and added patch made by Syncretic instead
Work OK
I reinstalled AVAST antivirus
Work OK
VoiceControl worked without panic
in my case only SSDT-TBOLT3.aml - still false (due to panic after wakeUp)
My current OC 0.8.0 with edited cdf config +TBOLT3+radeonsensor
My CMP 4.1/5.1 dual cpu xeon 5680, 96gb RAM, radeonpro w5700, nvme crucial 2tb, evo plus 1tb, TB3 alpine ridge, oc 0.8.0, mac os 12.4
 
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Gustav Holdoff

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Do you still get a Thunderbolt port speed of up to 40 Gb/s, or has that gone down to 20 Gb/s now? If the speed is not affected, what was SSDT-TBOLT3.aml supposed to be for, other than messing with sleep/wakeup?
I have never seen 40Gb/s in systems preferences, (when i bought the card i was already using the monterey)
I have Speed: Up to 20 Gb/s x2
I connect external raid hdd (I have no idea where I will even need 20Gb/s)
As to Martin Lo's instruction, You need to set SSDT to "true" to Enable hot plug for flashed Titan Ridge card in slot 4
 
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PeterHolbrook

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That's PRECISELY what SSDT-TBOLT3.aml seems to do: achieve speeds of up to 40 Gb/s. That's what my System Information says. But, alas, that also seems to play havoc with the entire sleep/wakeup feature.
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Gustav Holdoff

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That's PRECISELY what SSDT-TBOLT3.aml seems to do: achieve speeds of up to 40 Gb/s. That's what my System Information says. But, alas, that also seems to play havoc with the entire sleep/wakeup feature.
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I have not yet considered working with Alpine in such detail
before connecting with the ssdt turned off systems shows 20gb/s for both outputs,
and now with two my WD duo and WD thunderbolt duo connected, system gives 10Gb/s.
and for usb3 even 5Gb/s,
I don't know- probably these are the limitations of the WD themselves
I won’t turn on ssdt for now (I need to carefully study the reviews on the thunderbolt forum)
But there are too many conflicts in 12.4 for now
 

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That's PRECISELY what SSDT-TBOLT3.aml seems to do: achieve speeds of up to 40 Gb/s. That's what my System Information says. But, alas, that also seems to play havoc with the entire sleep/wakeup feature.
Perhaps somebody that has actually measured the speeds can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the 20 vs 40 thing is just cosmetic. Without the SSDT, it's 20 Gb/s x2, whereas with the SSDT, it's 20 40 Gb/s x1. The effective purpose of the SSDT is to add certain device properties that (at least partially) address issues with hot plug (and reconnection on wake). Are you getting sleep and wake issues with the SSDT and your GC-TITAN RIDGE card? I use my own minimal SSDT (closely based on Apple's own SSDT for the MacPro7,1 Thunderbolt I/O card) for my card and don't have any issues.
 
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PeterHolbrook

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I haven't timed the read/write Thunderbolt access speed myself, but I've seen others claim they did and the result was 20 Gb/s without SSDT and 40 Gb/s with it. In my case, the SSDT won't let my computer sleep, since it wakes up immediately as soon as it tries to go to sleep. This is the SSDT I'm using. Can you share yours, in case it's different from mine?
 

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ZNDK

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Is there a different way to start in Safe Mode on a Mac running OpenCore?
I tried booting while holding down the shift key. It goes into a reboot state similar to a crash just before logging in. Sometimes I get the crash report screen right after the Mac starts up.
 

Bmju

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Is there a different way to start in Safe Mode on a Mac running OpenCore?
I tried booting while holding down the shift key. It goes into a reboot state similar to a crash just before logging in. Sometimes I get the crash report screen right after the Mac starts up.
Shift+Enter at the OpenCore picker, or add -x to boot-args - but they should do the same as each other.
 

Gustav Holdoff

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OK. Something is certainly going on. But in my case (and perhaps for others as well), 12.4 has been fine so far, complicating the task. I did manage to triggering a panic by turning on Voice Control, so that is obviously something to look into. We'd have to identify the changes in 12.4 that could be causing these panics. Given the current logs, APFS could be the cause, but it seems that APFS always gets pointed at when issues come up (notably the Big Sur race condition). Any additional panic logs would be helpful.
I described a kernel panic due to thunderbolt SSDT "true" a few days ago,
earlier I described how I removed several causes of panic.
for three days I tested working with the eliminated causes (SSDT "false", avast antivirus uninstalled)
- work ok
-sleep mod/wakeUp ok
today installed an additional "noAVX" kext
-work ok,
-sleep mod/wakeup ok
in the evening I decided to return the SSDT "true" to the config under the same conditions
work ok, slip ok
wakeup kernel panic
LOG attached

My current OC 0.8.0 with edited cdf config +TBOLT3+radeonsensor+noAVX
My CMP 4.1/5.1 dual cpu xeon 5680, 96gb RAM, radeonpro w5700, nvme crucial 2tb, evo plus 1tb, TB3 alpine ridge, oc 0.8.0, mac os 12.4
 

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ZNDK

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Shift+Enter at the OpenCore picker, or add -x to boot-args - but they should do the same as each other.
Thank you. However, when I press Shift+Enter in OC Picker, the Mac does not crash, but starts up successfully normally. It does not go into safe mode. I want to enable safe mode without messing with Terminal or OpenCore.
 

w1z

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Adding another data point - my cMP just KP'd on a clean installation of 12.4 without enabling Voice Control and this was after enabling Voice Control on a previous installation that was working fine until I activated VC (or at least I thought it was working fine).

So for those on 12.4 that have not experienced a kernel panic yet, it's bound to occur eventually. Had I known this, I would have just enabled the required kext instead of carrying out a clean installation and wasted time.

Thank you @khronokernel for the fix and @cdf for sharing it with us.
 
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