Huntn's Infinity Stone Epic ?
Over the last two weeks the Wife and I have watched 15 movies (approx 32 hours) concerning or relating to the Marvel's Infinity Stone Epic that spans approximately 8 years (
Captain America: The First Avenger 2011 to
Avengers: End Game (2019). As someone who read many of the comics and have enjoyed these franchises, I will rate them from good to excellent, with the caveat that you like the premise, genre, and overall story arc.
Yesterday we finished up with
Avengers: Infinity War- truly epic, loved it even if a huge number of heroes perish. ?<-Spoiler wink.
For
Avenger: End Game- this is what I said in 2019:
Now after watching it again, I mostly agree with what I said previously. It's enjoyable, and acknowledge the entire proposition of time travel is a fantasy concept, but to enjoy it you must set aside any logical thinking about the premise of time travel, and just accept what your eyes see and here is the key:
You have to be able to go with the notion that:
- That Ant Man illustrates how humans can enter the quantum world, and time is a variable.
- That Tony Stark invents a quantum GPS so when entering the quantum world, you can travel to specific places and times.
- And that you can go back in time, retrieve Infinity Stones, bring them back to the future without disturbing the time line between when they are taken and the present they are being brought to (illogical).
- You can change the present, achieve an outcome and then go back in time, put the stones back precisely from where and when they are taken, so the time line continues as intended.
- At at the present day point where you use them to alter events, this will just flow naturally, because afterwards they have been put back.
But here are the issue with the script, if you bother to think about it. Frankly I admit in advance it's better just to go with the flow, but it still irritates me. ?
- When Roady asks, "Why not kill baby Thanos", Bruce Banner gives a lecturer but "that's not how time works" you can't change the past to change the future, because at that point, you have just created a new future.
- Yet this is exactly what they do, go back in 2 groups interacting with the time line 3 times, and somehow they don't create a new future, they come back to the same present that they left.
- So even by warning of creating branching time lines, by virtue of changing the past, according to Banner they could not come back because they just created a new time line. And where ever they came back to it would be the new time line, changed so much, there would not have been a reason to travel back and time, nor a time machine to come back to.
- And lets say they could use their Quantum GPS to return to their old time line, if nothing had changed and Banner was waiting for them, it means any changes they made exist in a new separate timeline they are not part of. Easy right? ?
- And finally Captain America going back after Thanos is defeated and putting the Infinity Stones back at the precise place and time puts everything back as it was, and then living his life from the 40's with his true love, in parallel with the original Captain America doing his thing makes the circular paradoxical equation so complicated that it's better just to forgetaboutit, LOL. ?
There were some other things that bug me a little:
- In 2013 Thor takes his hammer from Asgard- that does not change anything right?
- To get the Soul Stone, you have to lose the thing you love most. So when did Hawkeye start loving Black Window the most? OK, this actually makes sense, because Hawkeye's family was already lost so Natasha was the one who he loved most at that moment. Never mind.
- If I'm not mistaken both Stark and Hawkeye pick up Infinity Stones something mortals are not supposed to be able to do without perishing, or does wearing gloves make a difference? Stark picks up the Tesseract in NJ and Hawkeye picks it up after he earns it, so maybe that is an exception to the no mortal touchy rule.
- Back in 1972 NJ Captain America grabs 4 viles of PYM Particles. You know the thing you put in the belt of your quantum suit to travel in the Quantum world. They use 2 to get back, which leaves 2. So how did original Nebula open the Time Gate and allow Thanos to fly through and bring his ship forward in time? I guess we assume he did some research outside of the narrative and figured how to make or acquire PYM particles? I did not see his ship wrapped in a suit, so he would have spent years of his life developing the massive time travel technology for his massive ship and it does not appear, obliterating the building, but comes and arrives somewhere else because who needs the time machine? The story tellers just reduce all their scientific blather about time travel to... M.A.G.I.C. and be done with it. ?
- If having all those stones allows you to snap your fingers and make anything happen, they could have brought Black Widow back if Tony had thought about it.
- So is Gamora Dead? Past Gamora showed up with Thanos and seemed to be making headway with present Nebula, but when Peter Quill tried to hug her, she hit him. So what? So she died along with Thanos and the bad guys? If this is accurate, this bothers me a little, cause she is Star Lord's girl friend! And they still had the guantlet and the Infinity Stones so it would have been as easy as someone snapping their fingers. ?
Of the movies we watched I rank these as my favorites:
- Thor 2011
- Guardians of the Galaxy 2014
- Captain America: The Winter Soldier 2014
- Ant Man 2015
- Avengers Age of Ultron 2015
- Captain America: Civil War 2016
- Guardians of the Galaxy 2 2017
- Thor: Ragnarok 2017
- Avenger's Infinity Wars 2018
- Captain Marvel 2019
For your entertainment
