MBP Return or not return(pic included)

[tjcampbell]

Mine has a large gap also. Yes, I would think that for such an expensive machine it should be able to close properly. If you bought a two thousand pound car and the door didn't shut it would piss you off. BUT in this situation my machines performance isn't really affected so I have chosen to ignore the design flaw and enjoy the sexy rocket that the MBP is.

 

[iñaki'sonMac'87]

These continued rants just crack me up. First, this 2.33ghz, 2gb, 160gb, 15 inch laptop is THE CHEAPEST professional laptop I've bought in ten years. So this whole premise that this Apple laptop is some sort of luxury item, made in China, that should be cosmetically perfect is just absurd. I'm not ripping China in any way either, I thank God for the affordability China has given us, but China isn't Germany or Italy when it comes to luxury goods and anyone who thinks so wouldn't know a luxury good from a hole in the ground. Your MBP has a gap? So what, does it leak water in the tub? Obviously you bought your computer as a status symbol and because you still aren't getting chicks you want to blame a cd thick gap for your...shortcomings. Unbelievable!

TRUTH SIMPLY WELL PUT

 

[brikeh]

I see a lot of people trying to convince themselves that everything is fine, so what if my MBP has a gap and so what if the WiFi doesnt work and so what if the LCD is crap....thats fine and its ultimately up to you guys if you wanna pay good money for something that is obviously flawed. A lot of us wont. Thats no reason to bash us. If your happy with your laptop then fine. Seriously...I wouldnt have mine exchanged if it was only a mm gap caused by those little feet that protect the screen. But in my case those little feet protected a grainy, unevenly lit and somewhat "crooked" screen. On top of that my CD/DVD drive was acting weird, my WiFi was really crap and my spacebar sounded like a cat being raped.

To the OP...return the damn thing(dead pixels) and be happy with your new one. Even if it has a slight gap.

 

[Navintar]

Can you stop complaining about the complainers??!

What's a matter with those who just can't stand hearing these gap complaints? I don't care if you can live with the gap or not. We're all have different priorities and preferences. Some people just don't like it and it doesn't mean that they don't make sense. What they don't like turns out to be something you don't bother. Really, what is wrong with that?

If you dont' like to see the complaints, don't read it. It's impossible that everyone will be perfectly satisfied with everything. So.. it's YOU who need to GET OVER IT!

My MBP shuts perfectly level with the base. But I would've been ready to deal with all the hassle, if mine had a serious gap. Thanks the OP for the pictures though. You should keep in mind that there is at least one flawless MBP here that has no gap problem, whatsoever.

Unfortunately, you didn't get what I got, despite of the fact that we are paying the same amount of money. I'm sorry for you and I think there is a legitimate reason to complain.

 

[thequicksilver]

On a side note, I just noticed a small warp of the case of my 15" 2.33 MBP above the ExpressCard slot. It warps out just a little (about 1mm), but you know what? I don't give a sh*t. The thing works just as fast and just as well, and looks just as good as it did when I got it. I paid $2000 for a computer to run OS X and Final Cut Studio...not to sit in a display case to be visually picked apart by Mac fanboys, computer geeks, and all others who think their $2k buys them perfection.

Dreadful argument. Cosmetic damage harms the resale value of your laptop, and if you intend to sell it on such things are a real issue. One does not have to be a "fanboy" or "computer geek" to wish to receive something that is dent-free.

It's your prerogative of course to not worry about such things, but it is anybody else's to be disappointed and get it replaced. It is mystifying that you suggest that this trait is unreasonable.

On this note, I heard your "good rule of thumb" once, it was from a documentary made in the 1930's and it was in German. Buy a Dell. You don't spend money on Apple to get the quality, you spend money on Apple to use OS X. The quality is just a bonus, and far surpasses other manufacturers, even with your stupid lid gap.

Sigh.

• Firstly, Godwin's Law.
• You say people spend money on Apple to get OS X. Why do they do this? Because OS X is quality. Therefore, the money on Apple = money on a quality product.
• Regardless of whether you are purchasing a £400 Dell or a £2,000 MBP, it is reasonable to expect a new laptop to be free of all defects, and certainly within the industry norms for things such as dead pixels, etc. Am I saying that such a complaint about the gap is one I agree with? No. Am I saying that it is reasonable to query such a gap if you feel that it will have an impact on the ruggedness of your laptop, especially when carrying it in a backpack etc? Damned right it is.

It is not your point of view I am so much querying, it is more your attitude. You have expressed it in such an incredibly unreasonable and obnoxious way as to reduce much of the merit your argument has.

 

[Manic Mouse]

Dreadful argument. Cosmetic damage harms the resale value of your laptop, and if you intend to sell it on such things are a real issue. One does not have to be a "fanboy" or "computer geek" to wish to receive something that is dent-free.

It's your prerogative of course to not worry about such things, but it is anybody else's to be disappointed and get it replaced. It is mystifying that you suggest that this trait is unreasonable.



Sigh.

• Firstly, Godwin's Law.
• You say people spend money on Apple to get OS X. Why do they do this? Because OS X is quality. Therefore, the money on Apple = money on a quality product.
• Regardless of whether you are purchasing a £400 Dell or a £2,000 MBP, it is reasonable to expect a new laptop to be free of all defects, and certainly within the industry norms for things such as dead pixels, etc. Am I saying that such a complaint about the gap is one I agree with? No. Am I saying that it is reasonable to query such a gap if you feel that it will have an impact on the ruggedness of your laptop, especially when carrying it in a backpack etc? Damned right it is.

It is not your point of view I am so much querying, it is more your attitude. You have expressed it in such an incredibly unreasonable and obnoxious way as to reduce much of the merit your argument has.

+1

Moviecutter, you are a jerk. For some people spending thousands of dollars/pounds on a laptop is a LOT of money. It's only natural that they want as perfect a product as possible for that money.

A MBP is an expensive, premium and "professional" computer. Not a 500 buck DELL. Expecting a high level of build quality isn't unreasonable, is it?

 

[brikeh]

+1

Moviecutter, you are a jerk. For some people spending thousands of dollars/pounds on a laptop is a LOT of money. It's only natural that they want as perfect a product as possible for that money.

A MBP is an expensive, premium and "professional" computer. Not a 500 buck DELL. Expecting a high level of build quality isn't unreasonable, is it?

Your quite right..Im returning my second MBP now for various issues. The next one Ill be buying in the store after opening the box and examning it..closely.

 

[4nex]

<<Applause>>

On a side note, I just noticed a small warp of the case of my 15" 2.33 MBP above the ExpressCard slot. It warps out just a little (about 1mm), but you know what? I don't give a sh*t. The thing works just as fast and just as well, and looks just as good as it did when I got it. I paid $2000 for a computer to run OS X and Final Cut Studio...not to sit in a display case to be visually picked apart by Mac fanboys, computer geeks, and all others who think their $2k buys them perfection.

The only person that sounds like a fanboy in this thread is you. Trying to defend bad manufacturing/QC (before someone jumps in with two feet, I'm not saying they are all like this, just the computers SPECIFICALLY mentioned in this thread) like you are on some sort of religeous crusade or something. People aren't asking for perfection, they are asking for a product free of defects at point of sale which is the law in UK, I imagine it is the same in the US. Bent/warped cases are a defect, if they are there, the buyer is entitled to exchange or refund. You seem very upset by this, again, seems like a religeous thing. Who ever it was talking about new car doors being wonky is spot on, if I had a new car delivered with a dented door, it'd go straight back. Doesn't really affect performance but what has that got to do with anything? If a new guitar had a scratch in the paint, straight back. I guess I don't get that glazed look over my eyes like you do when anyone mentions apple, it is just a product and if it isn't right, it goes back till they get it right, I don't feel the need to rant and rave at anyone that speaks ill of the company.

 

[erikistired]

UPDATE: MBP C2D has ONE dead pixel. It is red and is at the bottom where iTunes icon is.

When I put screen to black, at the top left corner. I have some green pixels there, alot actually. But they don't show up at any other colour.

i had a stuck pixel show up on my powerbook. i used a program called jscreenfix that unstuck it after about 15 minutes of running the program. worth a try if you want to keep the machine.

my powerbook has a gap, if it didn't the keyboard would hit the screen. those little feet linked earlier look neat but i have a marware pad so they wouldn't work without some cutting.

 

[MovieCutter]

You all need to get a life...seriously. It's just a f**king laptop.

 

[brikeh]

You all need to get a life...seriously. It's just a f**king laptop.

Why do you even read these threads?

 

[MovieCutter]

Why do you even read these threads?

Because I like stirring the pot and attempting to break people of this idiotic need for absolute perfection they have about mass-produced consumer products. It's stupid and naive and a lot of people agree with me.

 

[brikeh]

Because I like stirring the pot and attempting to break people of this idiotic need for absolute perfection they have about mass-produced consumer products. It's stupid and naive and a lot of people agree with me.

Wanting to return the thing because of 6 dead pixels is naive and idiotic?I dont understand why, also whats with the attitude?

 

[iW00t]

I see a lot of people trying to convince themselves that everything is fine, so what if my MBP has a gap and so what if the WiFi doesnt work and so what if the LCD is crap....thats fine and its ultimately up to you guys if you wanna pay good money for something that is obviously flawed. A lot of us wont. Thats no reason to bash us. If your happy with your laptop then fine. Seriously...I wouldnt have mine exchanged if it was only a mm gap caused by those little feet that protect the screen. But in my case those little feet protected a grainy, unevenly lit and somewhat "crooked" screen. On top of that my CD/DVD drive was acting weird, my WiFi was really crap and my spacebar sounded like a cat being raped.

To the OP...return the damn thing(dead pixels) and be happy with your new one. Even if it has a slight gap.

I would definitely return it on account of the dead pixels, gap or no gap, I wouldn't accept even a single dead pixel, even if it comes to eating the restocking fee. I think people should stop this whole nonsense about getting this and that "for the price I paid for the Macbook Pro", so you reckon you could have done better?

I just bought a refurbished CD MBP for my bro today, and was walking him through the setup process. First mac he has ever owned and he is so freaking pleased with it. Does it have gaps or grainy display? I don't know since I am 7000 miles away, but it sure as hell didn't bother him.

The alternative, for $300 less, would be a Dell with IN-TE-GRA-TED graphics. And Windows. And cheap plasticky keyboards. I agree the new keyboards does squeak some, but still the closest thing to keyboard nirvana on a laptop (apart from Thinkpads).

 

[MovieCutter]

Wanting to return the thing because of 6 dead pixels is naive and idiotic?I dont understand why, also whats with the attitude?

I have no issues with the pixels...it's the OP's first post...the GAP...that is idiotic. As for the attitude....lately I've seen a swarm/invasion of newbies...all with the same issues (my screen has a gap, why can't Steve Jobs personally deliver my laptop to me two seconds after I order it, MacBook or MacBook Pro...the list goes on) It gets to you after a while and soon, you throw formalities out the window after the 20 of 30th thread on the same topic.

 

[KipCoon]

I'd keep it, even I'm anal about that stuff but nothing is functionally threatened and while it is an expensive laptop, no one but you is going to notice it, and consider it you're first scratch on youre new toy, and all will be well ^^


theres a small gap in the 17" pro we got too, I didnt measure it, but its there.

 

[brikeh]

I would definitely return it on account of the dead pixels, gap or no gap, I wouldn't accept even a single dead pixel, even if it comes to eating the restocking fee. I think people should stop this whole nonsense about getting this and that "for the price I paid for the Macbook Pro", so you reckon you could have done better?

What do you mean about could have done better? Myself Im not in the bussiness of producing laptops. Do you mean could I have bought a better laptop? My answer would be yes. When it comes to build quality, yes without a doubt. And for your brother maybe he doesnt have very high standards what do I know?

 

[brikeh]

I have no issues with the pixels...it's the OP's first post...the GAP...that is idiotic. As for the attitude....lately I've seen a swarm/invasion of newbies...all with the same issues (my screen has a gap, why can't Steve Jobs personally deliver my laptop to me two seconds after I order it, MacBook or MacBook Pro...the list goes on) It gets to you after a while and soon, you throw formalities out the window after the 20 of 30th thread on the same topic.

May I suggest you stop reading these threads if you cant keep from being rude to people posting in them? To some the shoddy buildquality isnt a biggie, to some it is.

 

[Teddy's]

It's very entertaining.
We need more rants.
It's been a long time since the Moron Macbook/Pro waiting rants.

 

[stealthman1]

What do you mean about could have done better? Myself Im not in the bussiness of producing laptops. Do you mean could I have bought a better laptop? My answer would be yes. When it comes to build quality, yes without a doubt. And for your brother maybe he doesnt have very high standards what do I know?

There just happens to be two high end Dells in my work area this morning...and they both have gaps of some sort. My VAIO at home has...gasp...a gap. They are not as visable, because the base color of the computer is black (or grey in the VAIO case), but they both surely have gaps. The one is nearly 2mm and it's never been off its dock.
Why do we care about this stuff. Because whiners, who don't actually have defective products drive the prices up for all of us. If you want a perfect computer, go pony up $12,000 and have one custom built. Have to give it up to Apple, they've got people convinced putting in a 160gb hard drive is 'customization'. Wish I could get in on a racket like that!

 

[Sesshi]

VAIO/Dell models?

 

[stealthman1]

VAIO/Dell models?

Your kidding right? Do I need to take pictures with my camera phone?
Well one Dell already went home, lucky btard, but the one with thats never left its dock is a Latitude 620, my friends Gateway CX210X has a gap, a. that's by design and maintained by rubber spacers that are 1mm+ tall, b. still doesn't sit flush on all rubber spacers! The MBP has two spacers that are probably, what 1/4 mm tall and when my MPB is closed niether of them touch. If Apple would have used a 1mm rubber spacer 99% of all these complaints would be mute. I don't remember my VAIO model number, it's older, but it cost me $4000!

 

[mr_matalino]

I'd rather have a gap than my screen scratched!

 

[4nex]

Because I like stirring the pot and attempting to break people of this idiotic need for absolute perfection they have about mass-produced consumer products. It's stupid and naive and a lot of people agree with me.

So your saying we should let all these companies mass producing stuff get away with exploiting people to build sub standard products, then sell them at full retail price? Great plan fan boy.

A lot of people like U2, doesn't make them right.

 

[nospleen]

Because I like stirring the pot and attempting to break people of this idiotic need for absolute perfection they have about mass-produced consumer products. It's stupid and naive and a lot of people agree with me.

I actually agree with MovieCutter also. The funny thing is the OP didn't notice the screen issues until later in the thread. Exactly how bad could they be??

Hello Everyone,
The screen seems ok, no dead pixels and I don't see problems with backlight so it would not bug me even if I have them.