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swavek1

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Oct 5, 2018
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To save at least some of you guys trying to figure out if it's 12.2 vs 12.1 version of Monterey - I'm on Mojave, and the same thing happened here. Presumably after the latest MS update, or else after I reformatted my HD and migrated my-everything from Time Machine backup.
 

yawarkhalid

macrumors newbie
Dec 16, 2021
17
3
Ok so I got a response from Apple on the feedback assistant.

They acknowledged the issue and said they are investigating and asked for a tonne of log files from my system. Either way. Don't think its getting fixed anytime before the next 12.2 stable update. Which would be atleast Jan/Feb.

Fingers crossed they figure it out and share information to actually fix it.

Response is quoted below:


**Quote**

We're actively investigating this issue, and would like you to provide some additional info & logging.


Is the issue only occurring with new Mail messages, or existing messages as well (old mail suddenly can longer be found after the update)?

Can Spotlight find other file types through the normal Spotlight UI?



After reproducing the issue, please do the following:



1. Rebuild the Spotlight index on your Mac following these steps:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201716



Does the issue continue to occur? If so, please do the following:



2. Launch the Terminal application from the /Applications/Utilities folder



3. Enter the following in Terminal, press return, and follow the prompts (if any):

sudo sysdiagnose



4. When that has completed, please enter the following in Terminal, press return, and follow the prompts (if any):

sudo mddiagnose



5. When that has completed, please copy the following and paste it into Terminal, press return, and follow the prompts (if any):

mdls -s "`find ~/Library/Group\ Containers/UBF8T346G9.Office/Outlook/Outlook\ 15\ Profiles/Main\ Profile/Data/Messages/ | grep olk15Message | head -n 1`"



6. When that has completed, please copy the following and paste it into Terminal, press return, and follow the prompts (if any):

mdls "`find ~/Library/Group\ Containers/UBF8T346G9.Office/Outlook/Outlook\ 15\ Profiles/Main\ Profile/Data/Messages/ | grep olk15Message | head -n 1`"



7. When that has completed, please copy the following and paste it into Terminal, press return, and follow the prompts (if any):

mdimport -d3 -n "`find ~/Library/Group\ Containers/UBF8T346G9.Office/Outlook/Outlook\ 15\ Profiles/Main\ Profile/Data/Messages/ | grep olk15Message | head -n 1`"



8. Add the sysdiagnose and mddiagnose logs to this feedback report, along with the Terminal output from the last three commands.


Thanks!

**Unquote**
 

bhaenel

macrumors newbie
Dec 17, 2021
2
1
FWIW, I'm also finding that filtering isn't working. I assume filtering mail and searching for mail are related functions. I'm also on OS 12.1
 
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yawarkhalid

macrumors newbie
Dec 16, 2021
17
3
Ok so I got a response from Apple on the feedback assistant.

They acknowledged the issue and said they are investigating and asked for a tonne of log files from my system. Either way. Don't think its getting fixed anytime before the next 12.2 stable update. Which would be atleast Jan/Feb.

Fingers crossed they figure it out and share information to actually fix it.

Response is quoted below:


**Quote**

We're actively investigating this issue, and would like you to provide some additional info & logging.


Is the issue only occurring with new Mail messages, or existing messages as well (old mail suddenly can longer be found after the update)?

Can Spotlight find other file types through the normal Spotlight UI?



After reproducing the issue, please do the following:



1. Rebuild the Spotlight index on your Mac following these steps:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201716



Does the issue continue to occur? If so, please do the following:



2. Launch the Terminal application from the /Applications/Utilities folder



3. Enter the following in Terminal, press return, and follow the prompts (if any):

sudo sysdiagnose



4. When that has completed, please enter the following in Terminal, press return, and follow the prompts (if any):

sudo mddiagnose



5. When that has completed, please copy the following and paste it into Terminal, press return, and follow the prompts (if any):

mdls -s "`find ~/Library/Group\ Containers/UBF8T346G9.Office/Outlook/Outlook\ 15\ Profiles/Main\ Profile/Data/Messages/ | grep olk15Message | head -n 1`"



6. When that has completed, please copy the following and paste it into Terminal, press return, and follow the prompts (if any):

mdls "`find ~/Library/Group\ Containers/UBF8T346G9.Office/Outlook/Outlook\ 15\ Profiles/Main\ Profile/Data/Messages/ | grep olk15Message | head -n 1`"



7. When that has completed, please copy the following and paste it into Terminal, press return, and follow the prompts (if any):

mdimport -d3 -n "`find ~/Library/Group\ Containers/UBF8T346G9.Office/Outlook/Outlook\ 15\ Profiles/Main\ Profile/Data/Messages/ | grep olk15Message | head -n 1`"



8. Add the sysdiagnose and mddiagnose logs to this feedback report, along with the Terminal output from the last three commands.


Thanks!

**Unquote**

Okay so I've noticed there are less than 10 similar reports on Apple Feedback. So I recommend you all go the the feedback assistant and report this issue.

That may generate traction and speed up the process.


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Ladin007

macrumors 6502
May 17, 2016
290
79
Hello, i have the same issue. Only for info, prefer direct microsoft install version or mac app store version? Which better??
 

jlingo

macrumors newbie
Dec 20, 2016
14
1
Hi there,
I toggled to new Outlook and search is working again as it should. An inelegant option to force ourselves to use new Outlook view.
The New Outlook, have 2 other problems:
1. You can no longer search contact with Mac Spotlight
2. New Outlook doesn't have Note Search within Contact feature.

For those who likes to put additional notes within the contacts : introduced by, no longer searchable.

The Old Outlook:
1. You can no longer search contact nor messages within Outlook but can search with Mac Spotlight.
 

amitbhatta

macrumors newbie
Dec 16, 2021
8
2
Search only works in the 'New Outlook' mode. Tried every 'possible' so-called resolution. Nothing worked. Finally MSOFT support says:


Thank you for your time. This issue is known to occur to the recent update released by Apple which is breaking the re-index process on Mac. We've seen that Apple has already released A Beta update to Mac OS Monterey and users informing that it is fixing the issue. So what we can do is uninstall and reinstall Outlook or wait till there is a fix released by Apple to sort this issue.

Obviously complete uninstall and reinstall also did not work. However, immediately after reinstallation briefly the search seem to have worked, but after sometime it was again broken.
 

ssmed

macrumors 6502a
Sep 28, 2009
885
423
UK
Search only works in the 'New Outlook' mode. Tried every 'possible' so-called resolution. Nothing worked. Finally MSOFT support says:


Thank you for your time. This issue is known to occur to the recent update released by Apple which is breaking the re-index process on Mac. We've seen that Apple has already released A Beta update to Mac OS Monterey and users informing that it is fixing the issue. So what we can do is uninstall and reinstall Outlook or wait till there is a fix released by Apple to sort this issue.

Obviously complete uninstall and reinstall also did not work. However, immediately after reinstallation briefly the search seem to have worked, but after sometime it was again broken.
12.2 is not considered helpful in posts above - beware downloading an early Beta
 
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amitbhatta

macrumors newbie
Dec 16, 2021
8
2
12.2 is not considered helpful in posts above - beware downloading an early Beta
forget about early beta...i am not going to install even a late beta..after months of beta testing and crap like that...apple delivered 12.1, which breaks a functionality of such a popular & famous App like Microsoft Outlook, so who knows what else will be broken after the next OS upgrade! very frustrating indeed!
 
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ssmed

macrumors 6502a
Sep 28, 2009
885
423
UK
forget about early beta...i am not going to install even a late beta..after months of beta testing and crap like that...apple delivered 12.1, which breaks a functionality of such a popular & famous App like Microsoft Outlook, so who knows what else will be broken after the next OS upgrade! very frustrating indeed!
I agree. If this is an apple problem and not a case of corporate blaming, then it is definitely worth hitting the apple support site and forums with comments and questions to raise the profile of a missing mission critical function
 
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petrhlavac

macrumors member
Dec 14, 2021
48
31
I was trying once again contact Apple support and they told me, that they are responsbile only for OS and Apple aplication and that I should contact MS because Outlook is MS application...
 

mikeyhd

macrumors member
Dec 2, 2011
85
11
Canada
Problem after problem after being force to Monterey by new MBP. When restart the indexing process, the search seems working but after that it stop, look like something in 12.1 that broke access to the index

Monterey is botch attempt, not ready, Wonder if it realated to work at home

Going to take long time to fix this... finger pointing with Apple and Microsoft
 
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outlookproblem

macrumors newbie
Dec 18, 2021
1
0
I see many in here recommend a switch to "new Outlook".
I tried that, but new Outlook, has not yet the ability to copy a calender event, that I normally do many times during a normal workday.
So just be aware of that malfunction, if you make the switch.

Quite bad options too choose between :-(
 
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petrhlavac

macrumors member
Dec 14, 2021
48
31
I see many in here recommend a switch to "new Outlook".
I tried that, but new Outlook, has not yet the ability to copy a calender event, that I normally do many times during a normal workday.
So just be aware of that malfunction, if you make the switch.

Quite bad options too choose between :-(
New outlook is not a solution for people using Outlook as a client for mailbox residing on the Exchange server
 

mikeyhd

macrumors member
Dec 2, 2011
85
11
Canada
I'm thinking of switching to exchange hybrid (that a lot of work) and using o365 as front end, maybe it will work with this "new outlook"...anyway MS is pushing hard for migration to o365

Safety-wise look better to me because of 2FA
 

EddyGRant

macrumors newbie
Dec 16, 2021
4
1
Sydney
As I have said before neither Apple of Microsoft give a flying f........ This is going to damage my ability to do business as I have multiple email accounts. Do you think they are going to compensate people for the extra cost from what they have stuffed up - NO!!!!!!! This is appalling in this day and age to so severely stuff something up. At a minimum they should pay back the money they have stolen from us through a subscription. But no that won't happen either. They have us by the gonads and they just don't care. Not enough competition in operating systems that is the issue.
 

VanDuker

macrumors newbie
Sep 22, 2021
20
14
An option I used is reverting to the native Mail client for search. I'm fortunate in that the "New Outlook" is a viable option but if this isn't an option the native client still provides valid search results.

I'm on M1 MBP with current 12.2 beta MacOS and current 16.57 beta Outlook and the problem persists. The problem seems to have been induced by MacOS as I see people reporting issues with Outlook 2016, 2019 and 2021.
 

axl_f

macrumors newbie
Oct 3, 2021
4
2
after chatting with MSFT Support they said many users reported the problem (Monterey 12.1 Build 21C52). Until the problem is solved by Apple they recommend using the new outlook (which is in my case not an option). Damn...
 

petrhlavac

macrumors member
Dec 14, 2021
48
31
Let’s all write to Tim Cook. Apple’s Executive Relations team reads e-mails addressed to tcook@apple.com and often responds. Perhaps with enough e-mails someone at Apple will give priority to providing a fix to this issue with a small macOS update before it releases Monterey 12.2 with Universal Control.
I wrote an e-mail...
 
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ssmed

macrumors 6502a
Sep 28, 2009
885
423
UK
What is this "New Outlook"? I am running 16.56.
There is a small toggle button in the top right of outlook which will give you all the joy and pain of this experience

Screenshot 2021-12-19 at 17.11.05.png

Only works with 365 accounts and has some limitations, but isn't a bad interface and the search works - think this is independent of spotlight!
 
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