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ardchoille50

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Feb 6, 2014
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Yeah, and never mind the cost, be grateful that you are part of this bloated ecosystem.

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Not a false premise, but an opinion which is what 99% of this forum content is constituted of...


If you're not happy about it, then I encourage you to go elsewhere. Complaining about it here will do little more than pander to a deeper problem that you seem unwilling to acknowledge. Seriously, this is Psychology 101 stuff.
 

Kissmyne

macrumors 6502
Apr 21, 2015
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No problems here. I have Windows 8.1 and OS X Yosemite installed. My work iMac also doesn't seem to have an issue with OS X Yosemite. OS X is a lot faster then Windows in my experience with both. Mavericks ran pretty well too. Although I understand that slow performance and stuttering can be frustrating, an article expressing an opinion is no more proof then a meme typically would be. I recommend to the OP to have your Mac checked out at the local Apple Store, maybe they can help you out. :)
 

prism

macrumors 65816
Original poster
Dec 6, 2006
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If you're not happy about it, then I encourage you to go elsewhere. Complaining about it here will do little more than pander to a deeper problem that you seem unwilling to acknowledge. Seriously, this is Psychology 101 stuff.

The expert on the matter has spoken, thanks for enlightening me on deeper problems, and apologies of sharing my opinion, your highness.
 
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Choctaw

macrumors 6502
Apr 8, 2008
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you mean our experiences matter less than an article you read online? :rolleyes:

Experiences involve many things. Our beliefs, true & false judgments and convictions, our intelligence, our prejudiced feelings, dislikes and likes. An on line statement alone might not even matter, if it has no truth to offer.

Probably individual personal taste has more to do with it than the reality itself. Opinions are just that, until the truth comes out.
 

Freyqq

macrumors 601
Dec 13, 2004
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If you're not happy about it, then I encourage you to go elsewhere. Complaining about it here will do little more than pander to a deeper problem that you seem unwilling to acknowledge. Seriously, this is Psychology 101 stuff.

If no one complains, the problem will never be recognized and it will never be fixed.

Part of the problem is a fundamental design decision in OSX. Retina display scaling increases the strain on the GPU. In Windows, hidpi instead is run at the same resolution of the display, regardless of the amount of scaling.
 

dagamer34

macrumors 65816
May 1, 2007
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Houston, TX
OMG the fps is less than 40 in Mission Control. Ring the alarm bells, get all the software engineers in!

More seriously - It's a desktop OS not a Call of Duty deathmatch. Does Mission Control work. Yes. Is it affecting OS stability. No. Quit moaning about a non-problem of a few dropped animation frames then on some new power efficient hardware. It's not hurting anyone, it's just eye candy.

The only saving grace of this thread is that no idiot has used the dreaded L-word yet.

The problem is so bad that often enough time has passed that the OS skips the animation entirely. And with a lot of windows, you lose context of where everything was to where it moved to when Mission Control is visible.
 

Psyfuzz

macrumors 6502
Dec 5, 2014
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While it's not the leanest, tightest OS Apple's put out in recent years I definitely appreciate the scope of this update was larger than previous recent outings.

I'm sure 10.11 will iron quite a bit out
 

ardchoille50

macrumors 68020
Feb 6, 2014
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If no one complains, the problem will never be recognized and it will never be fixed.

Unless Apple uses these forums to monitor and record issues for the purpose of implementing a resolution, complaining here will do little more than waste resources. Many people complain on third-party venues for the sole purpose of seeking empathy, which indicates a deeper problem unrelated to the device. I feel that one's resources are best utilized when directing the complaint to the entity responsible for the existence of the device. If the entity is unwilling to resolve the problem, then the best solution is to seek a different device. It all boils down to the most efficient method of solving the problem at hand.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/
 

Freyqq

macrumors 601
Dec 13, 2004
4,038
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Unless Apple uses these forums to monitor and record issues for the purpose of implementing a resolution, complaining here will do little more than waste resources. Many people complain on third-party venues for the sole purpose of seeking empathy, which indicates a deeper problem unrelated to the device. I feel that one's resources are best utilized when directing the complaint to the entity responsible for the existence of the device. If the entity is unwilling to resolve the problem, then the best solution is to seek a different device. It all boils down to the most efficient method of solving the problem at hand.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

Apple would be silly not to peruse major forums looking for issues and complaints. You would be surprised. As secretive and closed Apple may appear from the outside, companies put out good products by looking at feedback from a variety of sources and addressing it. The more data you have, the better you can address problems.
 

MagicBoy

macrumors 68040
May 28, 2006
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1,058
Manchester, UK
Apple would be silly not to peruse major forums looking for issues and complaints. You would be surprised. As secretive and closed Apple may appear from the outside, companies put out good products by looking at feedback from a variety of sources and addressing it. The more data you have, the better you can address problems.

They've got official forums for that, and the feedback pages. Without full access to the MR database the data is of poor statistical quality, and only anecdotal.
 

prism

macrumors 65816
Original poster
Dec 6, 2006
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They've got official forums for that, and the feedback pages. Without full access to the MR database the data is of poor statistical quality, and only anecdotal.

Only the foolish would rely on their own, heavily moderated forums as the sole reference to data mine and gain insight on trending issues. There is a reason why macrumors forums et al are so popular.

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I feel that one's resources are best utilized when directing the complaint to the entity responsible for the existence of the device. If the entity is unwilling to resolve the problem, then the best solution is to seek a different device. It all boils down to the most efficient method of solving the problem at hand.

I hope you realize that you are expressing an opinion and nothing else? You made your point or is there a deeper issue at hand?
 

MagicBoy

macrumors 68040
May 28, 2006
3,968
1,058
Manchester, UK
Not that you're biased, it being a thread you started to moan about Yosemite based on a tenuous blog post ... ;)

I can think of far more credible sources.
 

prism

macrumors 65816
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Dec 6, 2006
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Not that you're biased, it being a thread you started to moan about Yosemite based on a tenuous blog post ... ;)

I can think of far more credible sources.

Err, I was hardly referring to my post, now I feel flattered.
 

KALLT

macrumors 603
Sep 23, 2008
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3,415
I’m using a 2008 2.4 Ghz MacBook (aluminium) and find that it hasn’t run OS X really smooth since Lion, although it became noticeably better with Mountain Lion. Yosemite stutters a lot more in areas that never stuttered before and overall the system is just so much less responsive than it used to be. Performance of games seems to be better too on Snow Leopard, especially games that I’ve been playing since Snow Leopard when I still had an HDD and only 4 GB of RAM (now an SSD and 8 GB of RAM).

I’m running Snow Leopard on an external drive as well and the responsiveness almost brings tears to my eyes. I’ve been tempted by the Windows 10 beta and am impressed with the performance so far, despite the crashes and hang ups. Even on my older hardware, Microsoft manages to get that more performance out of it. It’s just sad that it has come to this. I am looking more and more at Linux now, because I have the feeling that they don’t use the better hardware as an excuse to burden the system more, despite similar end-user features on the desktop.
 

Choctaw

macrumors 6502
Apr 8, 2008
324
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...and you on your cognitive dissonance...

Yes, temper seems to be running in the area now. It's just about liking or bitching about the new OS not about poking insulting remarks toward the comments made.............remember that old saying "why can't we all just get along."
 

simonsi

Contributor
Jan 3, 2014
4,851
735
Auckland
Only the foolish would rely on their own, heavily moderated forums as the sole reference to data mine and gain insight on trending issues.

Of course but no-one has suggested they use a sole source for anything. Having worked in a similar environment though, independent user forums are very useful in many ways but providing statistically-valid analysis isn't one of them.

Apple feedback is the way to get your input "officially" counted...
 

torana355

macrumors 68040
Dec 8, 2009
3,633
2,734
Sydney, Australia
OMG the fps is less than 40 in Mission Control. Ring the alarm bells, get all the software engineers in!

More seriously - It's a desktop OS not a Call of Duty deathmatch. Does Mission Control work. Yes. Is it affecting OS stability. No. Quit moaning about a non-problem of a few dropped animation frames then on some new power efficient hardware. It's not hurting anyone, it's just eye candy.

The only saving grace of this thread is that no idiot has used the dreaded L-word yet.

But its fine for Apple users to say iOS runs so much smoother then Android but when OSX is laggy as hell thats ok.....Right.
 

prism

macrumors 65816
Original poster
Dec 6, 2006
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not about poking insulting remarks toward the comments made.............remember that old saying "why can't we all just get along."

Wow, what a one sided remark this is, have you been reading the thread or just filtering?
 
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