Exactly, same here.Um... the Pixel 3 is a really old and outdated phone now. Also I'll probably never understand those Farewell-posts.
Exactly, same here.Um... the Pixel 3 is a really old and outdated phone now. Also I'll probably never understand those Farewell-posts.
Off you pop then 👋.After being a huge fan of Apple since 2006 when I bought my first Apple product (a Macbook), I decided to switch. Moved from iPhone to Android and I sold my Macbook Pro and I'm learning how to use Linux (Fedora).
I'm not trying to incite hate. I'm just explaining the reasons I'm happy with the switch.
1 - Android is more private than iOS; I'm not talking about Google's Android. I'm using CalyxOS and it works great. Apple says what happens in your phone stays in your phone but we all know Tim Cook is full of crap.
2 - Android phones are cheaper; I'm not talking about crappy ones. You can get a Google Pixel 3 (in good condition) for less than $100. You'll only get an iPhone 7 for that price. Losing a lot of value is not good when you buy new but if you feel like switching to Android, $100 + 30min to install CalyxOS is easy.
3 - Android is way more configurable; You can sideload apps, have access to system files so you can copy files to and from the device, change the way the UI looks...
4 - Android is more private; I like how you can use a firewall to block apps from connecting to the internet...You dont need an iCloud account or Google's to use the phone, you have a kill-switch for the VPN (so it wont leak yourIP).
5 - Battery lasts a lot; I guess not having Google or Apple's tracking your phone in the background might help the device because the battery lasts more than a day using it. Of course, mileage might vary (GPS, ****ter all day...)
It takes time to find app replacements but you'll find if you have patience. I was able to find polished apps for my needs.
I might post another thread with Linux but so far my experience have been subpar because Mac laptops are way better than the competition (even in price).
Meh, you’ll be back, maybe not. I switched, and came back to iPhone after two years. Those “not cheap” phones are cheap and will start dying at around 2 years….After being a huge fan of Apple since 2006 when I bought my first Apple product (a Macbook), I decided to switch. Moved from iPhone to Android and I sold my Macbook Pro and I'm learning how to use Linux (Fedora).
I'm not trying to incite hate. I'm just explaining the reasons I'm happy with the switch.
1 - Android is more private than iOS; I'm not talking about Google's Android. I'm using CalyxOS and it works great. Apple says what happens in your phone stays in your phone but we all know Tim Cook is full of crap.
2 - Android phones are cheaper; I'm not talking about crappy ones. You can get a Google Pixel 3 (in good condition) for less than $100. You'll only get an iPhone 7 for that price. Losing a lot of value is not good when you buy new but if you feel like switching to Android, $100 + 30min to install CalyxOS is easy.
3 - Android is way more configurable; You can sideload apps, have access to system files so you can copy files to and from the device, change the way the UI looks...
4 - Android is more private; I like how you can use a firewall to block apps from connecting to the internet...You dont need an iCloud account or Google's to use the phone, you have a kill-switch for the VPN (so it wont leak yourIP).
5 - Battery lasts a lot; I guess not having Google or Apple's tracking your phone in the background might help the device because the battery lasts more than a day using it. Of course, mileage might vary (GPS, ****ter all day...)
It takes time to find app replacements but you'll find if you have patience. I was able to find polished apps for my needs.
I might post another thread with Linux but so far my experience have been subpar because Mac laptops are way better than the competition (even in price).
Numbers 1 and 5. Funniest joke I’ve read on here for a while. 🤣1 - Android is more private than iOS
2 - Android phones are cheaper
3 - Android is way more configurable
4 - Android is more private
5 - Battery lasts a lot
I disagree with 1 and 4 and I would venture to guess that most people also feel that iOS is more secure, but I suppose it’s debatable.
2 is true. If you want a cheaper phone, Android is probably the way to go. They don’t hold their value as well so you can get them cheaper but when you want to sell it, you won’t get much for it either.
3 is also true, but not important for a lot of people.
5 - the iPhone 13 Pro Max battery lasts crazy long. I’m sure there are android phones with big batteries too. I’m not sure what phone has the biggest battery but both android and Apple have phones with big batteries and phones with small batteries.
So, it boils down to cheaper and more customizable, and I’m glad you’ve found a solution that works better for you =)
Point 1 - I agree, debatable especially because it also depends what Android you get, what ROM you are running etc… In my opinion none of these devices are ever truly private, having worked in digital marketing I know that there are so many other ways you are tracked and even the mobile networks are happy to sell your data on, unless you are using some sort of locked down government phone, you will never truly have privacy, but I guess many enjoy being lied to anyway 🤣1 - Android is more private than iOS
2 - Android phones are cheaper
3 - Android is way more configurable
4 - Android is more private
5 - Battery lasts a lot
I disagree with 1 and 4 and I would venture to guess that most people also feel that iOS is more secure, but I suppose it’s debatable.
2 is true. If you want a cheaper phone, Android is probably the way to go. They don’t hold their value as well so you can get them cheaper but when you want to sell it, you won’t get much for it either.
3 is also true, but not important for a lot of people.
5 - the iPhone 13 Pro Max battery lasts crazy long. I’m sure there are android phones with big batteries too. I’m not sure what phone has the biggest battery but both android and Apple have phones with big batteries and phones with small batteries.
So, it boils down to cheaper and more customizable, and I’m glad you’ve found a solution that works better for you =)
Pointer 5. Android batteries aren’t big enough for the resources that they consume, a 5000mAh on an android is the equivalent of 3300mAh pack on an iPhone. Cue Samsung, for every Google system process or app on their devices, there is another duplicate Samsung equivalent running and installed as well. Heaven forbid users install any type of social media apps on android device , that’ll result in even quicker battery drain.First of all congratulations OP! If you are happy with your choice then enjoy it! I don’t know why people have been so rude about your choice in this thread, nothing working with going a PSA about venturing out to something else.
There a lot of us who have jumped between iOS and Android here. I personally used Androids from 2010 and iOS from 2012 and have happily watched both OSs flourish in their own way. It’s nice to venture out every now and again, and also talk to other people on forums who have done the same with varying results for their own personal usage, that’s the beauty in all of this, nothing wrong with trying something new or different, as long as you are happy with your choice.
Point 1 - I agree, debatable especially because it also depends what Android you get, what ROM you are running etc… In my opinion none of these devices are ever truly private, having worked in digital marketing I know that there are so many other ways you are tracked and even the mobile networks are happy to sell your data on, unless you are using some sort of locked down government phone, you will never truly have privacy, but I guess many enjoy being lied to anyway 🤣
Point 2 - yep android phones are definitely cheaper, they have to be, there is so much competition in Android and OEMs are always striving to give the best value to stick out.
Point 3 - agreed, I used to love customizing my androids when I was bored, but I got sick of it, I found that I actually have a certain setup that I enjoy, and once that setup was available on iOS I was very happy - the setup is having widgets in my Homescreen with News&weather, my Work calendar along with my most used apps, I have that setup now on my 11 Pro Max and very happy with it.
Point 4 - much like point one debatable agreed, again I honestly believe we have little privacy on both, for as long as your cellphone network snitches on you, you have no privacy, privacy is almost a farce on these devices to be quite honest IMO, but hey let’s live in this lie of one is more “private” than the other 🤣
People claim privacy while having open to public social media accounts and posting their location on Instagram, hilarious. I think the word “privacy” has been seriously diluted in the last decade.
Point 5 - agreed, lots of androids with huge batteries, I think in terms of mainstream globally available phones the 13 Pro Max seems to give the best battery performance especially given that it beats Androids with 5000mAh batteries. Then again you get phones like Asus ROG Phone 5S that have 144hz refresh rate screens along with Foldables that have 8inch 120hz screens etc… in fact some of the longest battery lasting Androids can be found in the mid to low end, where manufacturers have 5000-6000mAh batteries in low end phones with 1080P screens that can last multiple days, take the Xiaomi Redmi 9T which has a 6000mAh battery and GSMArena endurance rating of 150hours
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Contrast this to the S21 Ultra and 13 Pro Max which are both ultra high end smartphones but have much lower battery endurance ratings:
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We are literally spoilt for choice. If you want to have a super endurance phone you can get yourself some low to mid end Android with average specs and what is pretty a powerbank for a battery lol, or you can get an ultra high end smartphone like a 13 Pro Max or S21 Ultra that will give you a balance of great battery life and great cutting edge specs (power, top camera, top display etc…).
I’ve seen a lot of Uber and Bolt drivers use those low to mid end big battery androids in their cars while their main phones are usually some iPhone or Samsung flagship or mid end.
Point 5 is really dependent on the device and manufacturer you have chosen, a 6000mAh android Xiaomi obliterates both a high end Samsung and iPhone, choose what fits you best and enjoy it.Pointer 5. Android batteries aren’t big enough for the resources that they consume, a 5000mAh on an android is the equivalent of 3300mAh pack on an iPhone. Cue Samsung, for every Google system process or app on their devices, there is another duplicate Samsung equivalent running and installed as well. Heaven forbid users install any type of social media apps on android device , that’ll result in even quicker battery drain.
As for pointer 1, let’s not forgot who Google are as an entity and how they generate revenue.
You see that’s the issue for my region the USA. Xiaomi devices are not officially sold here nor do they support some important 4G LTE bands. Which brings me back to a point that I’ve raised here before. That being the lack of diversity and choices for the consumer. Without getting political look at what happened to Huawei just before they tried to break into the USA market. And I’m referring to their handsets and not their 5G infrastructure. They didn’t want another player of that stature competing with the few that were already established here. Huawei did make the worlds best android devices without a shadow of a doubt. Remember, politicians fight for those that line their pockets ( especially in the land of the free ).Point 5 is really dependent on the device and manufacturer you have chosen, a 6000mAh android Xiaomi obliterates both a high end Samsung and iPhone, choose what fits you best and enjoy it.
As for point 1, again, Google and Apple are just one matter in a bigger scheme, when the people who transmit your data themselves sell it. We seem to focus so much on Google and Apple and forget that mobile networks themselves sell data on. Layer in social media etc…
The day I hear and see proof that there has been zero hacks, zero sales of data and data leakages from all of these companies I will truly believe in “privacy” on our smartphones, until then I’m not subscribing to this dreamland of one is safer than the other, if one is truly concerned about their privacy to a high degree, rather give up anything that connects to the internet and go live in the woods.
This isn’t an airport. No need to announce your departure^^
To show you dont have to be stuck with Apple if you're not happy.
Im staying away from "closed" ecosystems. Recently I moved out of 1password (due to the subscription scam).
After being a huge fan of Apple since 2006 when I bought my first Apple product (a Macbook), I decided to switch. Moved from iPhone to Android and I sold my Macbook Pro and I'm learning how to use Linux (Fedora).
I'm not trying to incite hate. I'm just explaining the reasons I'm happy with the switch.
1 - Android is more private than iOS; I'm not talking about Google's Android. I'm using CalyxOS and it works great. Apple says what happens in your phone stays in your phone but we all know Tim Cook is full of crap.
2 - Android phones are cheaper; I'm not talking about crappy ones. You can get a Google Pixel 3 (in good condition) for less than $100. You'll only get an iPhone 7 for that price. Losing a lot of value is not good when you buy new but if you feel like switching to Android, $100 + 30min to install CalyxOS is easy.
3 - Android is way more configurable; You can sideload apps, have access to system files so you can copy files to and from the device, change the way the UI looks...
4 - Android is more private; I like how you can use a firewall to block apps from connecting to the internet...You dont need an iCloud account or Google's to use the phone, you have a kill-switch for the VPN (so it wont leak yourIP).
5 - Battery lasts a lot; I guess not having Google or Apple's tracking your phone in the background might help the device because the battery lasts more than a day using it. Of course, mileage might vary (GPS, ****ter all day...)
It takes time to find app replacements but you'll find if you have patience. I was able to find polished apps for my needs.
I might post another thread with Linux but so far my experience have been subpar because Mac laptops are way better than the competition (even in price).
Especially considering it's in the "Alternatives to iOS" forum.I don’t know why people have been so rude about your choice in this thread
It originally was in the iPhone forum before it was moved where it is now.Especially considering it's in the "Alternatives to iOS" forum.
Yes, I'd be interested.anyone who says android is more secure or private than iOS just lost my respect. Shall I link to how many malwares or hacks Android had in the last week?
I don't understand why.Numbers 1 and 5. Funniest joke I’ve read on here for a while. 🤣
I don't understand why.
\When I used Huawei, it had super battery saving mode, which meant that you could only make phone calls and receive text messages when it was activated. (No internet connection whatsoever).
I know plenty of people who have had iPhone and have had issues with batteries. I remember my friend saying that Sony Xperia's battery was way better than her iPhone 7 and asked my experiences with it.
Try using AdBlock Pro. It is free and it will block the video ads on YouTube. I use it and it works great.The only thing I miss from Android is YouTube Vanced, but I use YouTube on Safari with Adblocker. I haven't found my way around blocking ads on YouTube in the app and I don't want to pay for premium. YouTube Vanced is the best thing on Android.
I still prefer a better choice that Huawei for example had. 5% of battery could last me the whole day on super power mode.In low power mode, for the iPhone 13, iOS will shut down the 2 performance cores and will down clock the 4 efficiency cores from 1.83 GHz to 1.37 GHz. In low power mode, the A15 only uses about 3 watts of battery. And the A15 in low power mode is about as powerful the SD888. You can even game in low power mode and achieve a perfect 60 fps.
When I used Xperia I got one major OS upgrade and security updates for around 2 years. The situation with Motorola is a lot better though.How long and how often did Sony give Android support on their Xperia phone?
I am using AdBlock Pro, but still, YouTube Vanced or Android was way better. It also skipped all the promotions, so I didn't have to listen what VPN is or how to shave my balls with manscape.Try using AdBlock Pro. It is free and it will block the video ads on YouTube. I use it and it works great.
I think if you go to car enthusiast forums, the flame wars are more fiery than here… 😂I drive a 2021 Volvo XC90 3 row suv because of my kids. My neighbor drives an Audi Q7 3 row suv because of his kids. Guess what? We both happy. We both could care less what we drive. We both love our SUV’s. Enjoy your phones people. Use what makes you happy.
Volvo FTW. 😂I drive a 2021 Volvo XC90 3 row suv because of my kids. My neighbor drives an Audi Q7 3 row suv because of his kids. Guess what? We both happy. We both could care less what we drive. We both love our SUV’s. Enjoy your phones people. Use what makes you happy.