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So far no one can do that with a non Mac EFI GPU. But I really don’t know if we can do that with no GPU installed.
Thanks.
the problem is that my computer remains on the white boot screen after installing 10.13.4 when I connect a card sapphire radeon 7950 mac edition

if I boot with my rx580 card it works normally but without a start screen, but with this card I can not update the firmware
 
Thanks.
the problem is that my computer remains on the white boot screen after installing 10.13.4 when I connect a card sapphire radeon 7950 mac edition

if I boot with my rx580 card it works normally but without a start screen, but with this card I can not update the firmware

Which monitor you are using?

In any case, if the monitor has DP setting, set it to DP 1.1.
 
I'm not even on High Sierra yet. Certainly no rush to update to mystery firmware
 
2012 5,1 w/MVC 980 Ti updated with Full Installer (10.13.4 (17E199)) allows Firmware update from
MP51.0084->5.B00, then completion of update of OS and web driver v.387.10.10.10.30.103

Thank you, chrfr, for sharing that the Full Installer was the one to update the Firmware :)

Regards, splifingate
 
No problems after EFI and OS update from 10.13.3 to 10.13.4 on two MacPro 4,1 and MacPro 5,1.
Also four 2010 MacBook Pro 15" no problems.

10.13.4 full installer still refuses to allow me to install it on my 4,1 with disk utility software raid.
 
Is there a way to extract the firmware update from the installation package ? To avoid loading the whole thing just for updating the firmware ?
 
FYI, Nope~ NVMe still not bootable with new firmware(that's the motive I update the firmware to test) :(
Guess we just have to stick with bootloader to use NVMe as boot drive. sigh...
(I use an old SATA SSD as boot loader to load the kernel then redirect to Optane 900P as boot drive)

Personally I don't think that greedy fruit company will add NVMe to cMP. otherwise there'll be less demand for their new Mac Pro next year.....

Well, update from 10.13.3 didn't get me the new firmware, I go to app store, download "high sierra",
once download is complete. it automatically popup to ask me to update the firmware, after update the firmware it auto reboot back into the OS. I then just quit the installer, then move it(It's in the "Applications" folder) to trash to delete it.
 
FYI, Nope~ NVMe still not bootable with new firmware(that's the motive I update the firmware to test) :(
Guess we just have to stick with bootloader to use NVMe as boot drive. sigh...
(I use an old SATA SSD as boot loader to load the kernel then redirect to Optane 900P as boot drive)

Personally I don't think that greedy fruit company will add NVMe to cMP. otherwise there'll be less demand for their new Mac Pro next year.....

Well, update from 10.13.3 didn't get me the new firmware, I go to app store, download "high sierra",
once download is complete. it automatically popup to ask me to update the firmware, after update the firmware it auto reboot back into the OS. I then just quit the installer, then move it(It's in the "Applications" folder) to trash to delete it.

May I know if there is any real advantage using 900P on the cMP rather than something like 960 Evo?
 
May I know if there is any real advantage using 900P on the cMP rather than something like 960 Evo?

I use 512G 960PRO b4. upgrade to 900P doesn't improve the performance a lot(it's actually a bit slower when moving large files). Perhaps it's because cMP only have PCIE2.0 not 3.0 thus limit the advantage. 960Pro actually have higher sequential read/write at large transfer size.

my 280G 900P max out around 1380MB/s(960Pro is about 100MB more) in blackmagic.
But 900P is VERY VERY fast at small random read especially at low queue depth. So it's faster if you do a lot of random read/write(xcode/vmware etc.).

I'd say 960PRO is a better purchase. especially u can get a larger 960Pro with the money for 280G 900P.
If you want absolute speed. 900P is the way to go. Cconsider u can plug it in to future "mac pro"
(if it comes with PCIE slot.) it will be much faster on PCIE3.0

I use SM951 AHCI now as boot drive. and working on moving my home folder to the 900P.
I've no problem using bootloader method, It's just that everytime an update comes out, I've to clone the
boot drive to SATA SSD, then update from there and then clone it back to the NVMe and copy the kernel/kernel cache to the bootloader drive. too much trouble.

FYI my 900P QuickBench result, 960Pro's 4,8,16K read performance is about half. Write is few MB faster since it cache the data, 900P actually complete the write. (12core 2.93MHz/ 64G RAM dual channel mode)

4K 73.424 MB/Sec 73.705 MB/Sec
8K 127.828 MB/Sec 133.259 MB/Sec
16 241.841 MB/Sec 247.587 MB/Sec
32 346.098 MB/Sec 395.636 MB/Sec
64 569.733 MB/Sec 568.501 MB/Sec
 
I use 512G 960PRO b4. upgrade to 900P doesn't improve the performance a lot(it's actually a bit slower when moving large files). Perhaps it's because cMP only have PCIE2.0 not 3.0 thus limit the advantage. 960Pro actually have higher sequential read/write at large transfer size.

my 280G 900P max out around 1380MB/s(960Pro is about 100MB more) in blackmagic.
But 900P is VERY VERY fast at small random read especially at low queue depth. So it's faster if you do a lot of random read/write(xcode/vmware etc.).

I'd say 960PRO is a better purchase. especially u can get a larger 960Pro with the money for 280G 900P.
If you want absolute speed. 900P is the way to go. Cconsider u can plug it in to future "mac pro"
(if it comes with PCIE slot.) it will be much faster on PCIE3.0

I use SM951 AHCI now as boot drive. and working on moving my home folder to the 900P.
I've no problem using bootloader method, It's just that everytime an update comes out, I've to clone the
boot drive to SATA SSD, then update from there and then clone it back to the NVMe and copy the kernel/kernel cache to the bootloader drive. too much trouble.

FYI my 900P QuickBench result, 960Pro's 4,8,16K read performance is about half. Write is few MB faster since it cache the data, 900P actually complete the write. (12core 2.93MHz/ 64G RAM dual channel mode)

4K 73.424 MB/Sec 73.705 MB/Sec
8K 127.828 MB/Sec 133.259 MB/Sec
16 241.841 MB/Sec 247.587 MB/Sec
32 346.098 MB/Sec 395.636 MB/Sec
64 569.733 MB/Sec 568.501 MB/Sec

Thanks for the detail report. This is very useful to me. What I really want to know is mainly the 4K random read (low QD) and 4K random mix performance. Thanks for providing all the number. Very clear now.

I totally understand that the cMP's PCIe 2.0 is a bottleneck for any super high performance SSD. So, no matter how good they are, the sequential speed are always maxed at 1500MB/s anyway.

I really wish there will be a high capacity high 4K random performance SATA SSD. That will fit my need very well. But too bad that the SATA SSD now focus on improving the endurance, but not 4K performance.
 
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I have a MacPro5,1 with an "official" white Sapphire 7950 Mac Edition installed. I'm 99% sure (without opening the case to confirm) that the jumper is set for Mac mode. Will I be able to install 10.13.4 without having to swap the original card back in? Seems like it but then I read stuff like pinchu71's upstream post and I wonder ...
 
I have a MacPro5,1 with an "official" white Sapphire 7950 Mac Edition installed. I'm 99% sure (without opening the case to confirm) that the jumper is set for Mac mode. Will I be able to install 10.13.4 without having to swap the original card back in? Seems like it but then I read stuff like pinchu71's upstream post and I wonder ...

In fact, I installed the firmware from 10.13.4 with my Sapphire HD7950 Mac Edition card. So, the answer is YES.

For the OS part, any GPU will do. Just need the Mac EFI for firmware upgrade when running the full OS installer.
 
Is there a way to extract the firmware update from the installation package ? To avoid loading the whole thing just for updating the firmware ?

Yes. Just drill down into the installer and you will see the firmware updater package.
 
This is probably what you'd be looking for:
Contents > Resources > Firmware > MP51_0085_00B_LOCKED.fd

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I'm not aware of any GUI that can directly load this. Would recommend most people just use the Apple installer with an EFI card.
 
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