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haralds

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Yes, it's definitely the full 10.13.6 installer. Just upgraded the firmware.

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I just downloaded and am installing now. But it did not prompt me to upgrade firmware. I was doing it from command line to avoid APFS conversion. Does anybody know:
1. If firmware updates are not triggered from cl?
2. How to use a manual Firmware upgrade from pkgs in the installer bundle?
a. FirmwareUpdate.pkg
b. EmbeddedOSFirmware.pkg
I presume a. applies to mac Pro 5,1 ?
 

h9826790

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I just downloaded and am installing now. But it did not prompt me to upgrade firmware. I was doing it from command line to avoid APFS conversion. Does anybody know:
1. If firmware updates are not triggered from cl?
2. How to use a manual Firmware upgrade from pkgs in the installer bundle?
a. FirmwareUpdate.pkg
b. EmbeddedOSFirmware.pkg
I presume a. applies to mac Pro 5,1 ?

Just download the full installer and run it. It won't convert anything to APFS.

If you do it right, once you run the 10.13.6 full installer, it will prompt you for the firmware update. And then you can cancel the OS installation after firmware updated.

If it doesn't prompt you the firmware upgrade, you can close the installer straight away. There are still few steps away from the installation actually start, and won't install / convert anything.
 
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flowrider

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The Mac App store indicates '10.13.5' full installer, but the downloaded file is indeed the 10.13.6 installer.

I compared it with the installer in this thread.

Yes, it sure is. I still had the "real" 10.13.5 installer and downloaded the new installer. It's quite obvious from the "Get Info" boxes that the installer is really 10.13.6. Check the version number:

TinyGrab Screen Shot 7-11-18, 3.46.42 PM.png


Both installer have 5’233’568’296 Byte.

Actually they don't. The "real" 10.13.6 does, but the "real" 10.13.5 has 5,226,660,692 bytes.

My FW has now been updated:D

Lou
 
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tsialex

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I just downloaded and am installing now. But it did not prompt me to upgrade firmware. I was doing it from command line to avoid APFS conversion. Does anybody know:
1. If firmware updates are not triggered from cl?
2. How to use a manual Firmware upgrade from pkgs in the installer bundle?
a. FirmwareUpdate.pkg
b. EmbeddedOSFirmware.pkg
I presume a. applies to mac Pro 5,1 ?
1) No, only the full installer can check and start the firmware upgrade process.
2) It’s a extensive and convoluted process, I did it one time. Never again.
3) Just open the full installer, it will ask to shutdown and power on with pressed button for 20 sec. After firmware upgrade and macOS startup, you cancel the installation.
 
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haralds

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1) No, only the full installer can check and start the firmware upgrade process.
2) It’s a extensive e convoluted process, I did it one time. Never again.
3) Just open the full installer, it will ask to shutdown and power on with pressed button for 20 sec. After firmware upgrade and macOS startup, you cancel the installation.
I have had the full installer do the conversion on my machine and then had to do hoop jumping of cloning, cleaning up from command line, and then cloning back. A waste of time.
I did forget about the fact that it runs the Firmware update way before starting the real install. So all was fine.

BTW, in the past I found it is not good enough to just wait for the flashing light. I also wait for the tone before releasing the button. I also set manually my mDP to v1.1 so I can see the flash progress.
Happy now...
 

h9826790

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glad to see the W3690 is still playing ball it will be interesting to see what inSpectre in windows makes of it :) edit: interesting that your also having issues with BootChamp, mines been working perfectly fine, It seems like BootChamp on your end is trying to Bless your EFI install as if it was an MBR BIOS one. (BootChamp on my end is still correctly blessing my Windows 10 EFI install even on the 0089 BootROM)

speaking of microcodes:

Stuffs getting quite interesting :D

I Just got contacted by Apples developer relations team asking if my "issue" was fixed in 10.13.6

I let them know that indeed it is but that also intel has since put out even newer microcodes (Rev 31 for Westmere and Rev 29 for Nehalem) so it will be interesting to see what happens there :)

Yeah, Windows still there. Nothing broken, just BootChamp doesn't work anymore. I can still easily use the following command to simulate BootChamp (only boot to EFI Windows 10 once).
Code:
sudo bless -device /dev/disk0s2 -mount /Volumes/BOOTCAMP -setBoot -nextonly

As expected, Spectre is fixed.
Spectre.PNG


It says performance is slower. But CineBench shows roughly the same figure as pre-spectre fix.
CPU.PNG


It's a bit slower, however, there were some Windows update doing in the background. And one of the previous attempts also only got 809 points. So, 807 point after spectre fix isn't too bad. Even compare to the best score, that's just 3.3% slower. Not too significant.
 
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mbosse

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Mac App Store delta updates or even Apple Support ComboUpdates don't install Mac Pro BootROM firmware updates. You have to download the full Mac App Store installer for High Sierra 10.13.6 and run it.

Until now, Apple only providing 10.13.6 full installer via Seed sucatalog. You can download it now via Installinstallmacos.py from GitHub.

Code:
sudo python installinstallmacos.py

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How does this work? I get a
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python: can't open file 'installinstallmacos.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
reply.
 

tsialex

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How does this work? I get a
Code:
python: can't open file 'installinstallmacos.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
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If you downloaded installinstallmacos.py to Downloads folder, you have to put the path to it. Something like this:

Code:
sudo python Downloads/installinstallmacos.py


Mac App Store got the 10.13.6 full installer yesterday, but they forgot to update the App description to it…
 

mbosse

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If you downloaded installinstallmacos.py to Downloads folder, you have to put the path to it. Something like this:

Code:
sudo python Downloads/installinstallmacos.py


Mac App Store got the 10.13.6 full installer yesterday, but they forgot to update the App description to it…
Thanks, I might sound stupid but how do I download 'installinstallmacos.py'?
 

tsialex

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THANKS!
That works!
installinstallmacos.py will download all necessary files, it will take some time ~5.3GB, and will create a sparse image file with 10.13.6 installer, click 2 times to mount it.
 

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Demigod Mac

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Those with the Bootcamp "no bootable device" error after this update, are you on a split partition or dedicated Bootcamp drive?
 

Socket

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I've made a full installation of HS 10.13.6 but he don't upgrade my Firmware! I'm still with 0084!!! Why???
 

mbosse

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I've made a full installation of HS 10.13.6 but he don't upgrade my Firmware! I'm still with 0084!!! Why???
If the system tell you it needs a reboot for installation of the firmware update, it also tells you that you have to hold the power button until you hear a constant tone. Did you do that?

BTW, I forgot that first time as well. System restarted, and I was supposedly on 10.13.6, but in fact I was not ('upgrade' went also extremely fast...). Only after I successfully updated the firmware I could run the full upgrade to 10.13.6 (which took as long as expected).
 

Socket

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If the system tell you it needs a reboot for installation of the firmware update, it also tells you that you have to hold the power button until you hear a constant tone. Did you do that?

No it din't!
System installed, in the panel control i see 10.13.6 but in the system panel i see ROM 0084

Strange!

Now I'm trying to download installer again and re-made the usb key
 
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