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bookemdano

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Well here we go, 10.13.6 was just released. I can't seem to get the Mac App Store to let me download the full installer though--keeps trying to give me the 22.7MB online installer.

Just noticed the App Store description still shows 10.13.5, so we may need to wait a bit anyway for them to post the full installer.

This is likely the final release for High Sierra, and after the 87 firmware microcode debacle it will be interesting to find out if there's a new firmware in there or if it includes 85 like the Mojave betas.
 
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crjackson2134

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Well here we go, 10.13.6 was just released. I can't seem to get the Mac App Store to let me download the full installer though--keeps trying to give me the 22.7MB online installer.

Just noticed the App Store description still shows 10.13.5, so we may need to wait a bit anyway for them to post the full installer.

This is likely the final release for High Sierra, and after the 87 firmware microcode debacle it will be interesting to find out if there's a new firmware in there or if it includes 85 like the Mojave betas.

Same here, waiting for App Store to update so I can download full installer. I did install from the MAS already however.
 

MIKX

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^^^^Yep, I got the Combo Updater. Full Install Package not yet available.

Lou
Anything new in the combo ? It's a futile dream but it would be so nice if the full installer includes NVMe booting.

Also, I wonder if the full 10.13.6 installer will have a bootrom update with regard to microcode.
 

h9826790

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Yeah the updates don't include the firmware updates. You need the full installer, which as of now still isn't available.

The Microcode can be updated at OS level (this is what they are doing in 10.14 beta now), not necessary via firmware update.
 

Earl Urley

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Microcode went from 35 to 36 on my rMBP 13-inch 2013 with combo 10.13.6 update so hopefully ill check on my MP 5,1 with the same combo in a few hours..
 

cococheaf

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Jul 10, 2018
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Hi, thank you all for your help making apple products last a life longer.
I have flashed the 85 ROM and I have one last problem, i am experiencing issues with the alt key at boot, where i am stuck at a grey screen. Shutting down and restarting the machine gets me directly into macOS.

Someone experienced the same issue?

I have the Lycom Adapters installed, one with a 970 Evo 1TB on it and one with a 950 Pro 256GB on it.
System specs: MP51, 2012, 85 ROM, 64GB ECC, Dual X5690s, MVC GTX1070

Will fill my account info later ;)

EDIT: Have updated to 89 now, and the problem still exists...
 
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macguru8

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Hi, thank you all for your help making apple products last a life longer.
I have flashed the 85 ROM and I have one last problem, i am experiencing issues with the alt key at boot, where i am stuck at a grey screen. Shutting down and restarting the machine gets me directly into macOS.

Someone experienced the same issue?

I have the Lycom Adapters installed, one with a 970 Evo 1TB on it and one with a 950 Pro 256GB on it.
System specs: MP51, 2012, 85 ROM, 64GB ECC, Dual X5690s, MVC GTX1070

Will fill my account info later ;)

EDIT: Have updated to 89 now, and the problem still exists...
[doublepost=1531351157][/doublepost]I have the Lycom Adapters installed, one with a 950 Evo 256GB.
System specs: MP51, 2010, 85 ROM, 64GB ECC, Dual X5690s, EVGA GTX680
On boot I used the option key and I get stuck at a grey screen. No drivers are showing.
I removed the 950 EVO 256GB leaving in the Lycom Adapters installed. The problem left.
I tried a different 950 Evo 256GB. Same problem with the grey screen stuck at boot.
 

Stratus Fear

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no Mac shipped with the ICH9 chipset

however its funny you mention the iMac8,1

I really want to try and flash an iMac8,1 BootROM to an iMac7,1 :) (however I dont own an iMac7,1)

internally the iMac7,1 and 8,1 are almost the same, they have the same i965+ICH8 chipset,

it would give better penryn support at a minimum.

and maybe even 1066Mhz FSB support? the iMac7,1 schematics mention 1066Mhz FSB support, which makes me wonder if the iMac7,1 works with 1066Mhz FSB CPUs...

Not to stay off topic, but I own a 24" 7,1 and actually tried this and it was a no go. Bricked my logic board. Wouldn't boot again after reboot, and putting in a 1066MHz FSB Penryn and some 800MHz DDR2 didn't help either. I ended up buying a 8,1 logic board on eBay for $15 to fix the machine and that works just fine. At a quick glance, the 7,1 and 8,1 boards look exactly the same with the exception of the camera and IR connector locations being swapped between the two, but clearly something else is going on beyond just EFI.
 

cococheaf

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Jul 10, 2018
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[doublepost=1531351157][/doublepost]I have the Lycom Adapters installed, one with a 950 Evo 256GB.
System specs: MP51, 2010, 85 ROM, 64GB ECC, Dual X5690s, EVGA GTX680
On boot I used the option key and I get stuck at a grey screen. No drivers are showing.
I removed the 950 EVO 256GB leaving in the Lycom Adapters installed. The problem left.
I tried a different 950 Evo 256GB. Same problem with the grey screen stuck at boot.

Do you get the greyscreen when you remove the lycom adapter? I have removed the adapter with the 950pro and let only the 970evo installed and it seems okay now... what are we missing? Btw. i updated to 89 ROM
 

macguru8

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Do you get the greyscreen when you remove the lycom adapter? I have removed the adapter with the 950pro and let only the 970evo installed and it seems okay now... what are we missing? Btw. i updated to 89 ROM
[doublepost=1531403157][/doublepost]I left the Lycom Adapter in without the 950 EVO 256GB and it worked perfect. I only had the problem when I had the 950 EVO 256GB installed in the Lycom Adapter. FYI, I tried in 3 Mac Pros, 2 were 2009 4,1 to 5,1 and my 2010 Mac Pro. All 3 Mac Pro's are dual CPUs. FYI, I used the same Lycom Adapter with a Samsung AHCI M.2 with no problems.
[doublepost=1531403321][/doublepost]
 
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cococheaf

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[doublepost=1531403157][/doublepost]I left the Lycom Adapter in without the 950 EVO 256GB and it worked perfect. I only had the problem when I had the 950 EVO 256GB installed in the Lycom Adapter. FYI, I tried in 3 Mac Pros, 2 were 2009 4,1 to 5,1 and my 2010 Mac Pro. All 3 Mac Pro's are dual CPUs. FYI, I used the same Lycom Adapter with a Samsung AHCI M.2 with no problems.
[doublepost=1531403321][/doublepost]

OKAY! Then we have a confirmed problem with the 950 Pro.
Thanks.

Has someone in the meantime tested the usb3 boot possibility?
 

expede

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Samsung 960 Pro NVMe M.2 Boot on Firmware MP51.0089.B00

So I used old Bootrom-tool and Inject-tool to add NVMe to my Firmware;

1. Shut down the system (running on NVMe and FW 0084´NVMe)
2. Reinstalled the HS 10.13.5 SSD in bay 1 and my backup graphic card (AMD Radeon 7950)
3. Rebooted into HS 10.13.5.
4. Updated the system to 10.13.6 (MP51.0084+NVMe).
5. Extracted the MP51_0089_00B_LOCKED.fd from the macOSUpdCombo10.13.6 using Pacifist

jkfgmryf.png

6. Extract to the "RecoveryHDMeta.dmg" to desktop
7. Mounted it.

m3pazp78.png

8. Extracted the "BaseSystem.dmg" and also mounted that.

u86ufrof.png

9. Located the "Installer macOS High Sierra" and right click and show contents.

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10. Copied the file to desktop.

np6fw5ib.png

11. Located the MBP114_0184_B00.fd file and extracted that to the desktop.
12. Opened the MBP114_0184_B00.fd with UEFITool and search for "NVMe".

442sucyr.png

13 Extracted the file "Extract as is" to the desktop and named it NVMe.ffs
14 Then I located my old "Installer macOS High Sierra.app and right click to te app and located the MP51_0087_00B_LOCKED.fd and replaced it with my new MP51_0089_00B_LOCKED.fd. Change the crc32 by typing crc32 in terminal and space then drag the MP51_0089_00B_LOCKED.fd to the terminal window and droped it. Hit enter. The new number was replaced in the crc32-file.
15 Shut down my cMP and waited 15 sec.
16 Booted up and Open the Old change Installer macOS High Sierra.app. The installer prompted me to put in the password and then the installer did a Firmware update from 0084' to 0089'.
17 Reboot and check:

e2xi4wti.png

11. Extracted my newly installed FirmWare with RomTool and saved it to the desktop.
12. Created a folder on desktop named EFI and dropped the NVMe.ffs, DXEInject and the extracted FirmWare in to it.
13. Did the inject command in Terminal (./DXEInject ./Firmware_Orginal.bin ./FirmWare_nvme.bin ./NVMe.ffs)
14. Shut down the computer and waited 15 sec
15. Reboot in Firmware state (hold the start-button for sometime until the light flash +sound)
16. Used the ROMTool to inject the new Firmware+NVMe.
17. Reboot onto the Samsung NVMe 960Pro and updated the system to OSX 10.13.6

/Per
 
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MisterAndrew

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Samsung 960 Pro NVMe M.2 Boot on Firmware MP51.0089.B00

So I used old Bootrom-tool and Inject-tool to add NVMe to my Firmware;

1. Shut down the system (running on NVMe and FW 0084´NVMe)
2. Reinstalled the HS 10.13.5 SSD in bay 1 and my backup graphic card (AMD Radeon 7950)
3. Rebooted into HS 10.13.5.
4. Updated the system to 10.13.6 (MP51.0084+NVMe).
5. Extracted the MP51_0089_00B_LOCKED.fd from the macOSUpdCombo10.13.6 using Pacifist

jkfgmryf.png

6. Extract to the "RecoveryHDMeta.dmg" to desktop
7. Mounted it.

m3pazp78.png

8. Extracted the "BaseSystem.dmg" and also mounted that.

u86ufrof.png

9. Located the "Installer macOS High Sierra" and right click and show contents.

2z29q7mf.png

10. Copied the file to desktop.

np6fw5ib.png

11. Located the MBP114_0184_B00.fd file and extracted that to the desktop.
12. Opened the MBP114_0184_B00.fd with UEFITool and search for "NVMe".

442sucyr.png

13 Extracted the file "Extract as is" to the desktop and named it NVMe.ffs
14 Then I located my old "Installer macOS High Sierra.app and right click to te app and located the MP51_0087_00B_LOCKED.fd and replaced it with my new MP51_0089_00B_LOCKED.fd.
15 Shut down my cMP and waited 15 sec.
16 Booted up and Open the Old change Installer macOS High Sierra.app. The installer prompted me to put in the password and then the installer did a Firmware update from 0084' to 0089'.
17 Reboot and check:

e2xi4wti.png

11. Extracted my newly installed FirmWare with RomTool and saved it to the desktop.
12. Created a folder on desktop named EFI and dropped the NVMe.ffs, DXEInject and the extracted FirmWare in to it.
13. Did the inject command in Terminal (./DXEInject ./Firmware_Orginal.bin ./FirmWare_nvme.bin ./NVMe.ffs)
14. Shut down the computer and waited 15 sec
15. Reboot in Firmware state (hold the start-button for sometime until the light flash +sound)
16. Used the ROMTool to inject the new Firmware+NVMe.
17. Reboot onto the Samsung NVMe 960Pro and updated the system to OSX 10.13.6

/Per

So the NVMe driver works with the new firmware? Why did you need to extract it from the 10.13.6 installer and put it in the 10.13.5 installer?
 
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expede

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I didn´t have the OSX 10.13.6 full installer and that was the only way I knew to get the firmware updated.

/Per

So the NVMe driver works with the new firmware? Why did you need to extract it from the 10.13.6 installer and put it in the 10.13.5 installer?
 

macguru8

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Feb 9, 2013
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High Sierra 10.13.6 is available in the Apple App Store in the USA
 

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tsialex

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Oh, I see. Interesting. I didn’t know the firmware is included in the combo update.
The Recovery update have it, but it's so much more easy an foolproof to run the full installer than manually putting the files on the correct locations/blessing/etc.
 
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macguru8

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The Recovery update have it, but it's so much more easy an foolproof to run the full installer than manually putting the files on the correct locations/blessing/etc.
[doublepost=1531443706][/doublepost]Expede thanks for your directions. I followed your directions and everything is working find. The only difference I did was pulled the firmware from the complete 10.13.6 down load. I added the NVME to the firmware then flash the firmware to my Mac Pro 4,1 upgrade to 5,1.
[doublepost=1531443864][/doublepost]
OKAY! Then we have a confirmed problem with the 950 Pro.
Thanks.

Has someone in the meantime tested the usb3 boot possibility?
[doublepost=1531443993][/doublepost]
OKAY! Then we have a confirmed problem with the 950 Pro.
Thanks.

Has someone in the meantime tested the usb3 boot possibility?
[doublepost=1531444199][/doublepost]Cococheaf I switched out the Samsung 950 Pro with my Samsung SM951 512GB NVMe MZVPV512HDGL-00000. I did not have the grey screen on boot anymore while holding the option key. It is obvious the 950 pro M.2 NVME is the problem.
 
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Earl Urley

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Looks like the 10.13.6 full installer needs to be run from an actual internal hard drive in order to flash the firmware to 0089, I tried to run it from a Samsung 840 SSD with 10.12.6 on it, hooked up to a Velocity Solo X2 in slot 3, and it kept locking up whenever I pressed the triangular "Shut Down" button.

Moved the installer to an actual reformatted OEM Apple drive with 10.13.6 already on it and the flash from 0087 to 0089 went just fine. Xeon W3565 updated from microcode level 0 to 28.

Also saved the 0089 BootROM, then successfully injected the NVMe DXE driver and reflashed, and was able to boot just fine onto my 970 Pro / Lycom DT-120.
 

Earl Urley

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Was the 840 in one of the Mac Pro onboard SATA bays? My issue could have something to do with the fact that drives plugged into the Velocity Solo always show up as external drives.. I've run the full 10.13.6 installer on regular Sierra hard drives with no issue.
 
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