does this apply to undergarments? I would love to wear my hanes just once then return it for new ones. :d
That is pretty funny.
does this apply to undergarments? I would love to wear my hanes just once then return it for new ones. :d
Some of you keep using the word "abuse" when it comes to return policy. Again, I do not think it means what you think it means.
How is it abusing when it's their own policy? Do you guys know what a return policy is? If anyone should find a product they bought unsatisfactory, that's what the return policy is there for.
, you made it quite clear you had no intention of keeping the iPhone, and it was merely a stop gap until the release of the GS4. You very clearly stated it was your intention to "take advantage of Apple's 30 day return policy and purchase an unlocked iPhone 5 to use whilst waiting for the S4 to come out". Sorry but that is indeed abusing the return policy. People that do that sort of thing are the reason companies like Best Buy have cut their return period short, to discourage people from using them as a rental service. The purpose of the return policy is to give people a chance to buy a product in good faith, but be able to return it if necessary. It is not a means for people to rent products.Here's something funny. Since I'm returning my Nexus 4, I may take advantage of Apple's 30 day return policy and purchase an unlocked iPhone 5 to use whilst waiting for the S4 to come out. With competition heating up from HTC, Sony, LG, etc., I'm hoping Samsung will have an earlier release time frame for US markets. If it's sometime in April, it'd work out perfectly.
When you said " , you made it quite clear you had no intention of keeping the iPhone, and it was merely a stop gap until the release of the GS4. You very clearly stated it was your intention to "take advantage of Apple's 30 day return policy and purchase an unlocked iPhone 5 to use whilst waiting for the S4 to come out". Sorry but that is indeed abusing the return policy. People that do that sort of thing are the reason companies like Best Buy have cut their return period short, to discourage people from using them as a rental service. The purpose of the return policy is to give people a chance to buy a product in good faith, but be able to return it if necessary. It is not a means for people to rent products.
These companies don't give these offers out for nothing, most people on a 30 day trial will be seduced by the phone and keep it, that is what the offer is all about, that is what the company desires, it will have bet against couch returning the phone even if he said before hand that was what he was going to do. They lost the bet. Period, they win more than they lose (IMHO). There was nothing in the offer that said that he had to want to keep the phone beforehand. Can't see what all the fuss is about TBH.
Yes, good job pulling a quote that is long before I knew much about the HTC One or the S4, instead of pulling a quote from the OP of this thread when time has passed and impressions of the S4 and One can be made (my initial impressions were of disappointment with both devices for various reasons).
Good job proving absolutely nothing. Please read the OP. Even Bmac4 has retracted his position that I only had one intent when purchasing the iPhone. We, in fact, had a nice short exchange via private message.
As for "abusing" the Apple return policy, please read the rest of the thread. It's been discussed ad nauseum how that's inaccurate.
Even if that was my sole intent of purchasing the iPhone, it still wouldn't be "abusing" the return policy. Daveathall sums it up the best here:
And again, the fact that Apple is accepting the return willingly, should be the end of this discussion. Please, if you want to preach about return policy changes, go preach to those iPhone users that return for the most minute "flaw" over and over and over again, or like others have said, the ones that lie about water damage or shattered devices, etc.
Please.
Yes, good job pulling a quote that is long before I knew much about the HTC One or the S4, instead of pulling a quote from the OP of this thread when time has passed and impressions of the S4 and One can be made (my initial impressions were of disappointment with both devices for various reasons).
Good job proving absolutely nothing. Please read the OP. Even Bmac4 has retracted his position that I only had one intent when purchasing the iPhone. We, in fact, had a nice short exchange via private message.
As for "abusing" the Apple return policy, please read the rest of the thread. It's been discussed ad nauseum how that's inaccurate.
Even if that was my sole intent of purchasing the iPhone, it still wouldn't be "abusing" the return policy. Daveathall sums it up the best here:
And again, the fact that Apple is accepting the return willingly, should be the end of this discussion. Please, if you want to preach about return policy changes, go preach to those iPhone users that return for the most minute "flaw" over and over and over again, or like others have said, the ones that lie about water damage or shattered devices, etc.
Please.
I really don't want to be involved in this again. Couch I just trust you when you said you were not just buying the phone to hold you over for the next android. That is all I will say.
Thanks.
I also don't think people realize how close I came to keeping the iPhone. Especially after discovering how incredible the jailbreak community was. If jailbreak was more stable and if HTC didn't offer such amazing offers for the HTC One, I would have kept it and waited for the X Phone or the Nexus 5.
But iGentleman wants to only look at a post I made before I knew much about the One or the S4 instead of a post made later with more information. I even say "I may" in the post he quoted, yet he finds that incriminating and determining evidence.
Does this apply to undergarments? I would love to wear my hanes just once then return it for new ones.
Does this apply to undergarments? I would love to wear my hanes just once then return it for new ones.
If apple made undergarments they would probably be quite restrictive, bit they would 'just work'
If apple made undergarments they would probably be quite restrictive, bit they would 'just work'
If apple made undergarments they would probably be quite restrictive, bit they would 'just work'
Next thread: My 30 day iUnderwear journey.
Till the part he ends up on skid(mark)row
For what it's worth I don't think the return policy has been abused, rather it's been taken advantage of. Apple has a lenient returns policy and excellent customer service, where if you go back to them with a fault they'll most likely swap the phone out. However, I do believe this comes at a cost, which I think significantly affects the cost of the end product.
Personally I'd rather pay less and not have such a good returns policy or customer service, but that's just me.
Next thread: My 30 day iUnderwear journey.
Because he never had any intent to actually purchase the phone. He basically gave them some cash as collateral for a loaner, which is not what return policies are in place for.
If he had been testing it out to see if it worked for him and decided it didn't....that's good and fine. But he knew going in he wasn't going to keep it. Just needed something to hold him over until the new round of Android phones came out.
That is exactly what return policies are for. Otherwise they can simply allow no returns.
If he likes it, he will change his mind and then not return it.
If not, oh well, they do allow a return right?
I don't know why a simple concept is too hard.
By this logic things like test drives, trial app periods, trial subscription models etc etc should all be simply shut down.
A lot of time people have no intention to use those things or services, but the companies offer them. You know why? Because they might change their mind after using it. This ends up making you even more of a loyal customer should you stick, because of their flexible draw in and the fact that YOU WANTED IN, not that YOU HAD NO CHOICE AND WERE STUCK.
I would rather take a loyal, happy customer over a forced customer if i were a business.
That is exactly what return policies are for. Otherwise they can simply allow no returns.
If he likes it, he will change his mind and then not return it.
If not, oh well, they do allow a return right?
I don't know why a simple concept is too hard.
By this logic things like test drives, trial app periods, trial subscription models etc etc should all be simply shut down.
A lot of time people have no intention to use those things or services, but the companies offer them. You know why? Because they might change their mind after using it. This ends up making you even more of a loyal customer should you stick, because of their flexible draw in and the fact that YOU WANTED IN, not that YOU HAD NO CHOICE AND WERE STUCK.
I would rather take a loyal, happy customer over a forced customer if i were a business.
That's actually not what return policies are for. But this is a dead topic. You either get it or you don't. No sense in continuing to take up space with it.
Daveathall put it best earlier... at no point in the sale or contract or receipt between Apple and the customer does it state that you have to have an intent to keep it when purchasing.
Otherwise, what would be the point of having returns at all, like Sentinalsx mentioned? Apple would just have warranty to cover defects, but no need for returns.
Not to mention, how in the world would you even keep track of people's intent? Absurd.
You really don't know what you're talking about. Thankfully you don't run Apple's customer service.
That's actually not what return policies are for. But this is a dead topic. You either get it or you don't. No sense in continuing to take up space with it.
Oh dear we are still discussing this? I thought we moved on.
Whatever makes you feel better, chief.