My iPhone 6 Opinion

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Why would it be a "huge fail?"

IMO the whole "thinner" thing is a gimmick and it's getting old. Every year the iPhone gets thinner. It's nothing new and not a good reason to buy the iPhone over any other phone. And when you put a case on it, the whole "thinnest iPhone ever" becomes moot.

You can't be serious. The length and width of the iP6 Plus with a thickness of the 5S would basically be like toting a brick around. Even most tablets are thinner than the 5S.

Making devices thinner is not a gimmick if they are also increasing length and width.

 

[pedromcm.pm]

I enjoy hearing everyone's opinions so keep posting!

Something else I would like to add, does anyone else feel like Apple purposely slows down older devices as an incentive to upgrade?

For example, I read a chart somewhere a few days ago that said the iPhone 4S was ~ .2-1 second slower in every app/task it did in iOS 8 compared to iOS 7. I don't see why when iOS 8 only introduced a few new features (that you actually see anyway).

Again, food for thought:

The big WIN that iOS has over Android, the thing that is keeping devs more and more interested on iOS is that a huge number of users are on the same API level, will have the same "base" OS.

Each generation is more demanding and has to take advantage of newer hardware, so older phones feel a small hit (but eventually, each hit adds up). It will stoping being a problem because iOS devices have increasingly powerful SoC (starting with the a6. iOS requirements don't double each gen, but performance from SoC certainly did) that will last a long time, and all iOS versions have the same 1GB of RAM limit.

So, while it seems obvious to me, I will explain:

The advantage of running iOS 8 isn't necessarily the built in features (there are few of them on older hardware). The advantage is related with the APIs and what Devs will quickly do with them. The solution on Android is either: Some glue and tape or abandon it.

p.s: I thought that we were supposed to share our honest opinions, not make up stuff and participate on some sort of jerkfest that usually goes on around here.

p.s2: The exynos version of the S3 never saw kitkat.

p.s3: The international version of the s3 mini never saw a single update. It's still 4.1.2.

 

[tmoney82]

Just off the top of my head:

1. Tons of more features like NFC, IR Blasters, and more

2. Complete customization of the OS, If I spend $650 or more on a phone I'd rather the company not tell me which browser, messaging, or camera app I have to use. If I don't like one that comes stock on Android, I default another one. Same goes for launchers and themes.

3. Kind of falls under customization as well but anything is changeable or downloadable. Whether it be a widget or a lock-screen, anything.

4. It's SUPER smooth. The animations introduced in iOS 7 personally kill me inside! On Android you can adjust any animations you'd like down to the exact speed, or disable them entirely.

5. If I want to download a song, file, app, anything, I don't have to do it through iTunes or Apple's stores. I can basically use my phone as a flash drive if I wanted to, it's that easy.

I can start getting into phone specific features like expandable storage, better speakers, displays, and things like that but that's a debate for another day.

This is just off the top of my head of why I enjoy Android so much..

Reasons why I like android!

 

[kingalexthe1st]

Well slower of course, new processors have come out in that time. The point I'm trying to make is not comparing the iPhone 4S running iOS 5 to a new iPhone 6, of course the 6 will be a better performer. But if you compare an iPhone 4S running iOS 7 and iOS 8 it's noticeably slower for no apparent reason.

I THINK Samsung actually just gave the S3 4.4.4 but I'm not totally sure. Either way Touchwiz is bloated on every device.

I don't think it's possible to prove really but iOS 8 didn't introduce any new animations or anything. I can't see why it would be more demanding.

It's the other way round - technology increases and software is written to take full advantge of the increase in speed that new tech gives. So when you put that new sofware on old tech, it's just not as efficient or fast.

Alex

 

[McGiord]

Just off the top of my head:

1. Tons of more features like NFC, IR Blasters, and more

2. Complete customization of the OS, If I spend $650 or more on a phone I'd rather the company not tell me which browser, messaging, or camera app I have to use. If I don't like one that comes stock on Android, I default another one. Same goes for launchers and themes.

3. Kind of falls under customization as well but anything is changeable or downloadable. Whether it be a widget or a lock-screen, anything.

4. It's SUPER smooth. The animations introduced in iOS 7 personally kill me inside! On Android you can adjust any animations you'd like down to the exact speed, or disable them entirely.

5. If I want to download a song, file, app, anything, I don't have to do it through iTunes or Apple's stores. I can basically use my phone as a flash drive if I wanted to, it's that easy.

I can start getting into phone specific features like expandable storage, better speakers, displays, and things like that but that's a debate for another day.

This is just off the top of my head of why I enjoy Android so much..

Thanks for sharing.

#1 I think is hardware dependent more than anything.

The customization piece is kind of a personal preference. I do prefer to spend more time using the phone to make calls, communicate, play games, surf, watch, record videos and take pictures than just tweaking things to see how they look, so customization for me is not a big need.

I haven't use Android therefore these questions:
Can you have something equivalent or better than iTunes Match?
Photo stream?
iCloud to sync all your devices, contacts, calendar, Mail, bookmarks, documents?
FindMy iPhone.
Sharing Apps with Family, etc..

The following link has some interesting read, I haven't finished it, there is another article in the second page about Android L...

http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/183522-ios-8-vs-android-4-4-does-apple-finally-have-the-edge

Any comments on Android L?

 

[pedromcm.pm]

Thanks for sharing.

#1 I think is hardware dependent more than anything.

The customization piece is kind of a personal preference. I do prefer to spend more time using the phone to make calls, communicate, play games, surf, watch, record videos and take pictures than just tweaking things to see how they look, so customization for me is not a big need.

I haven't use Android therefore these questions:
Can you have something equivalent or better than iTunes Match?
Photo stream?
iCloud to sync all your devices, contacts, calendar, Mail, bookmarks, documents?
FindMy iPhone.
Sharing Apps with Family, etc..

The following link has some interesting read, I haven't finished it, there is another article in the second page about Android L...

http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/183522-ios-8-vs-android-4-4-does-apple-finally-have-the-edge

Any comments on Android L?

1. Google play music;
2. Use Google Photos app or something like dropbox;
3. You can migrate everything to a Google account on your Mac and Android, or use apps like Mailbox to sync your iCloud Mail. The other option (my favourite on Android) is going to icloud.com and send a copy of your email to Gmail.
4. There's Android device manager. It is useful, but inferior.
5. I can't help with that.

So, you can actually find similar functionality. Will it be worth it? will you prefer it? Only you can answer through experience.

 

[Kariya]

But it just feels as though people buying iPhones now are buying simply because:

A: They're used to it
B: Their friends/family use iPhones
C: They are simply Apple fans

I really can't see anyone buying the iPhone 6 and truly believing it's the best experience that's currently available...

I'll add more thoughts as I think of them, but what do you guys think?

Or

A. Its actually a very decent phone. Great camera, aesthetically pleasing hardware, reliable/consistent software (please spare me the iOS 8.0.1 jokes) and decent battery.
B. Great ecosystem from cases to apps to headphones.
C. Excellent after-sales support. Walk into an Apple store and walkout with a fresh device
D. They've had great experiences with previous devices and trust the brand
E. What constitutes the 'best' experience for you, can be complete different to someone else's.

The mobile market has peaked, its largely more of the same from every OEM out there.

If the iPhone was that terrible people wouldn't buy. Consumers believe it or not still know how to vote with their money.

 

[McGiord]

1. Google play music;
2. Use Google Photos app or something like dropbox;
3. You can migrate everything to a Google account on your Mac and Android, or use apps like Mailbox to sync your iCloud Mail. The other option (my favourite on Android) is going to icloud.com and send a copy of your email to Gmail.
4. There's Android device manager. It is useful, but inferior.
5. I can't help with that.

So, you can actually find similar functionality. Will it be worth it? will you prefer it? Only you can answer through experience.

Well Google has become a monster in terms of data mining user's info without any compensation to the user and selling it, so I would not fully move into their "user experience" and give away my personal info without anything in return. Nothing is free, with Google/Android I feel like all my personal data is vulnerable.

I do prefer to pay for the service I receive and be able to enforce my customer role , if I ever need to, with the company that is handling/storing my personal data in their servers.

Do you use any security software on top of the Android OS?
How reliable are the sources of Apps and SW out there?

 

[McGiord]

Competition is a good thing.

It's going to be very interesting how things evolve in the next couple of years with HomeKit and Google's equivalent.

http://mashable.com/2014/06/05/apple-smart-home-google-home/

To whom would you trust your home?

 

[pedromcm.pm]

Well Google has become a monster in terms of data mining user's info without any compensation to the user and selling it, so I would not fully move into their "user experience" and give away my personal info without anything in return. Nothing is free, with Google/Android I feel like all my personal data is vulnerable.

I do prefer to pay for the service I receive and be able to enforce my customer role , if I ever need to, with the company that is handling/storing my personal data in their servers.

Do you use any security software on top of the Android OS?
How reliable are the sources of Apps and SW out there?

I believe in the following:

If I'm going to buy an high end phone, it will be an iPhone without a doubt. If I'm not going to buy an high end phone, It will only be an Android phone.

The best way to take the most out of the OS and to have the best possible experience on Android is to have the "google experience". Personally, I'm ok with the way that data is used. It makes services better.

Paid or not paid, Google's services are almost unmatched (for me, and the ones around me, there's only Apple above that. People just love how easy it is from going from an Apple device to other, all info is in sync, etc.). I'm ok with that.

About your 2 questions: Using security software on Android? Why? Why would anyone do that? Maybe only those that install stuff from unknown sources, like those that jailbreak in iOS.

Sources? Like what? Facebook comes from Facebook in both OSes. They are equally safe. You get the point.

 

[Nick A]

I think we got a good debate going here, everyone's making good points and I've learned a few new things.

One thing I'd like to add, Android phone build quality has matched or surpassed Apple at this point. Have you seen the HTC One M8? It almost looks like Apple copied it's design for the iPhone 6! Although I guess there's only so many ways you can make an antenna work through metal..

 

[McGiord]

By sources of Apps I mean that many people complaint on the 'closed' App Store that prevents people from installing 3rd party apps, even some people jailbreak etc.
And that with Android you can install apps out of Google play. And some have claimed the need to have antimalware software installed like with a Windows PC.

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http://www.cnet.com/how-to/protect-your-android-device-from-malware/

 

[Lloydbm41]

Thanks for sharing.

#1 I think is hardware dependent more than anything.

The customization piece is kind of a personal preference. I do prefer to spend more time using the phone to make calls, communicate, play games, surf, watch, record videos and take pictures than just tweaking things to see how they look, so customization for me is not a big need.

I haven't use Android therefore these questions:
Can you have something equivalent or better than iTunes Match?
Photo stream?
iCloud to sync all your devices, contacts, calendar, Mail, bookmarks, documents?
FindMy iPhone.
Sharing Apps with Family, etc..

The following link has some interesting read, I haven't finished it, there is another article in the second page about Android L...

http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/183522-ios-8-vs-android-4-4-does-apple-finally-have-the-edge

Any comments on Android L?

1. Google Play Music
2. Photos (although there is no family sharing capability)
3. iCloud is just a copy of what Google has been doing for years. Your Google account has been automatically updating your contacts, bookmarks, calendar, mail, etc for a long, long time.
4. Find my phone is now built into Android Device Manager. You can locate, lock and erase any device associated with your account. And i have found it locks on to my devices faster than find my iphone.
5. Sharing apps on Android has always been easy. If it has a downloadable apk file, anyone can download it. It is called sideloading. Additionally, Android has multiple accounts on one device so everyone in the family can use the same device, but have the device set up individually for each person.

You have to remember that Apple is implementing features in ios that have been Android staples for a long time. Both OS's are now pretty much on par with each other.

 

[Technarchy]

The evidence of a closed mind right here.

Best smartphone you can buy currently...I believe it.

 

[steviewhy]

Since no one else has mentioned it as an alternative to Find My iPhone:

Cerberus Anti-Theft (Paid app with more features than Android Device Manager)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus

 

[mrex]

Best smartphone you can buy currently...I believe it.

YouTube: video

the verge, lol

 

[pedromcm.pm]

1. Google Play Music
2. Photos (although there is no family sharing capability)
3. iCloud is just a copy of what Google has been doing for years. Your Google account has been automatically updating your contacts, bookmarks, calendar, mail, etc for a long, long time.
4. Find my phone is now built into Android Device Manager. You can locate, lock and erase any device associated with your account. And i have found it locks on to my devices faster than find my iphone.
5. Sharing apps on Android has always been easy. If it has a downloadable apk file, anyone can download it. It is called sideloading. Additionally, Android has multiple accounts on one device so everyone in the family can use the same device, but have the device set up individually for each person.

You have to remember that Apple is implementing features in ios that have been Android staples for a long time. Both OS's are now pretty much on par with each other.

So Apple is doing nothing more than copy? Allow me to disagree. They are raising the bar:

1. With Google play music, many of my musics were deleted, for example. And the all access is crazy expensive!
2. Photos, like you said, doesn't have family sharing and a native desktop client.
3. iCloud is much more than that, and works well. Look at the backups situation.
4. Find my iphone, between other things, locks the phone at firmware level. ADM is extremely limited in comparison.
5. Sideloading is an irrelevant and geek-focused processe. Normal people should only use the Google play store. Eventually the little box that allows installs from unknown sources will disappear.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

4. Find my iphone, between other things, locks the phone at firmware level. ADM is extremely limited in comparison.

The activation lock from Find my iPhone can be easily bypassed multiple ways, which I won't discuss here.

ADM is quicker at loading and locking on devices, and can be used from any browser. If you want deeper security than what even Find my iPhone has, you can always install an app that does that, like Avast.

 

[apolloa]

My opinion is I like it! I have a Nexus 5, but for me what I want in a phone is a nice small design, the best automatic camera I can get, and reasonable battery life.
So when I tried a friends iPhone 6 the other day I was really surprised by how well designed it is, it reminded me of my iPhone 4 in a way.

I was looking at the Xperia Z3 Compact for it's size and camera, but every single review I have seen shows the iPhone 6 camera is much better in automatic mode, I don't really want a camera I spend time setting up, I want the phone to do it for me.

So yes, I want one, but can't afford one right now and I also really would like optical image stabilisation so I'm going to wait for the iPhone 6S.

I'm a fan of both platforms, I've invested in both Android and iOS, and for me I find the best is to have an Android tablet and an iOS Phone. I've already sold my Nexus 7 in anticipation for that lurvely new Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact, even bought a memory card for it
An example of this is that I bought an iPad Mini Retina not too long ago through a scheme at work, and I just don't like iOS on a tablet, so I'll give it to my Mum if she wants it, even though I personally think her iPad 3 is much better.

For me they both have their plusses and minuses, I buy what I want at the end of the day, not what some fan screams at me, it's a shame others don't see it that way and will blindly defend their platform no matter what.

 

[Jayson A]

I bought the iPhone again because I played with a Galaxy S5 and it just wasn't my cup of tea. I'm not really a fan of the OS.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Best smartphone you can buy currently...I believe it.

YouTube: video

The Verge is known for their bias in iPhone's favor.

Telling everyone to avoid Blackberry is equivalent to many iPhone fans who claim they don't need all the features Android offers. Blackberry phones are still damn good phones with good email, notifications, security, and probably one of the best mobile browsers. Most who go for Blackberry obviously don't care much for an app driven mobile OS like iOS or Android. Problem with Blackberry is they have become too much of a niche player, but ironically it's what keeps them from falling completely off the radar.

Windows Phone is the opposite of BlackBerry, they are actually trying to be like iOS and Android. And I would say the WP OS is great, but they still have a totally crap app store selection(worst than BlackBerry), which for me is a no go as a daily driver. And that truly sucks, cause Nokia Lumia phones are very well designed.

 

[ItHurtsWhenIP]

I bought the iPhone again because I played with a Galaxy S5 and it just wasn't my cup of tea. I'm not really a fan of the OS.

Shaking my head at this..and I also find it amusing.

Touchwiz is not android. I don't care if its just a "skin"...it's terrible, and envelops the entire experience. You don't like Touchwiz, I get that. But trying out TW and saying you don't like Android as a complete OS is ignorant, plain and simple.

 

[Technarchy]

Shaking my head at this..and I also find it amusing.

Touchwiz is not android. I don't care if its just a "skin"...it's terrible, and envelops the entire experience. You don't like Touchwiz, I get that. But trying out TW and saying you don't like Android as a complete OS is ignorant, plain and simple.

I like Touchwiz just fine thank you. I'd take a Touchwiz laden S5 over a Nexus 5 any day of the week.

 

[Kariya]

the verge is constantly accused by android fans for their bias in iphone's favor.

ftfy

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

ftfy

fib