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Kariya

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I disagree...... There was enough of a relationship between Anandtech and Apple that he left the tech site he built and founded to work for Apple. The people he hired and left in charge watches their boss and mentor leave to go to work for Apple..... Anyone can see there is going to be a good relationship from that point forward. Also he did not just walk away cold turkey. Of course he is being consulted on business decisions on some kind of level. No one leaves a business they created and walks away never to have a conversation with the people they hired and left to run their business they founded. People they no doubt have a business and personal relationship with.

This statement makes zero sense. You don't need to have a prior relationship with a company to decide to go work there. You just need to be qualified and be interested in whatever project you're being hired for and its relation to your skills.

Anand wasn't a blogger spewing opinion as fact. Every review was backed with raw numbers and transparent testing methods which very few other sites can match. People need to understand that saying something positive about an Apple product doesn't make you prejudiced.

There is no 'relationship' outside of regular PR stuff which many companies have with several journalists. Anand isn't going to work in marketing either, so he's influence at Apple, if any, will translate to nothing for the site's editorial team.

As for business decisions...well...duh.
 
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jamezr

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This statement makes zero sense. You don't need to have a prior relationship with a company to decide to go work there. You just need to be qualified and be interested in whatever project you're being hired for and its relation to your skills.

Anadtech wasn't a blogger spewing opinion as fact. Every review was backed with raw numbers and transparent testing methods which very few other sites can match. People need to understand that saying something positive about an Apple product doesn't make you biased.

There is no 'relationship' outside of regular PR stuff which many companies have with several journalists. Anand isn't going to work in marketing either, so he's influence at Apple, if any, will translate to nothing for the site.

As for business decisions...well...duh.

I still stand by what i wrote. I am sure he had a lot of offers over the years. He chose Apple. To me that means he thought enough of them to shun other offers and leave the business he founded and ran for 17 years to go to work at Apple. I am sure it wasn't a spur of the moment decision. I am sure he had a short list of companies or opportunities he would take if it presented itself. I am sure at his level the job discussions/requirements took a while to come to a mutual agreement. You don't own a tech site for 17 years reporting on Apple products without forming relationships with Apple along the way.
Just the fact that Apple hired him proves that fact.
 

Kariya

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You don't own a tech site for 17 years reporting on Apple products without forming relationships with Apple along the way.

He also reported on Intel, Samsung, AMD, OCZ and many many others in that period

Just the fact that Apple hired him proves that fact.

No it doesn't. It just means they recognised his skill-set which are indeed notable and have been on display for 17yrs.
 

jamezr

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He also reported on Intel, Samsung, AMD, OCZ and many many others in that period



No it doesn't. It just means they recognised his skill-set which are indeed notable and have been on display for 17yrs.

^^^ above proves the point i was making and will continue to disagree with you.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
^^^ above proves the point i was making and will continue to disagree with you.

I disagree with you, you have no basis for there is any bias other than that's your opinion. It's my opinion there is no bias. Anandtech was tech biased not Apple biased. It's not their fault Apple produces a great product that is reflected in their reviews.
 

jamezr

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I disagree with you, you have no basis for there is any bias other than that's your opinion. It's my opinion there is no bias.
I never said there was bias....never not once. Go back and read my posts again. NEVER ONCE did i say Anand was biased.
 

skratch77

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Mar 20, 2013
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He still has a connection to annand and even said he helps out when needed.

This is from 9to5
 

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jamezr

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He still has a connection to annand and even said he helps out when needed.

This is from 9to5

I read the same thing on several tech blogs when Anand first announced he was joining Apple. The decision and process was in place for almost a year before the announcement and his involvement with Anandtech still continues.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Jan 17, 2013
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I never said there was bias....never not once. Go back and read my posts again. NEVER ONCE did i say Anand was biased.

Having just read through this conversation you do put an emphasis on the assumption there was a strong relationship prior to him joining Apple. This does read as an insinuation that this could infer bias on his part whether you meant it or not. If you didn't mean that, perhaps the relationship here is irrelevant because it gives the wrong impression. Just an outsider giving my two pence. :)
 

jamezr

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Having just read through this conversation you do put an emphasis on the assumption there was a strong relationship prior to him joining Apple. This does read as an insinuation that this could infer bias on his part whether you meant it or not. If you didn't mean that, perhaps the relationship here is irrelevant because it gives the wrong impression. Just an outsider giving my two pence. :)

I just stated the facts............you can read into them what you want.
He chose Apple over all the other offers he most likely had. I am sure he had numerous opportunities come his was over 17 years. He chose Apple....good for him. Why does that insinuate a bias on my part? I reported the facts.
The strong relationship he had to have came from his choice of Apple.
No where did I say his reviews or articles on Apple were biased.
Over 17 years of reporting on technology he no doubt developed a string of relationships with a lot of companies.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Jan 17, 2013
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I just stated the facts............you can read into them what you want.

He chose Apple over all the other offers he most likely had. I am sure he had numerous opportunities come his was over 17 years. He chose Apple....good for him. Why does that insinuate a bias on my part? I reported the facts.

The strong relationship he had to have came from his choice of Apple.

No where did I say his reviews or articles on Apple were biased.

Over 17 years of reporting on technology he no doubt developed a string of relationships with a lot of companies.

I was just saying your posts left it wide open for interpretation because you haven't until now suggested you didn't infer an Apple bias because of assumption of him having a strong relationship with Apple.

The truth is we don't know why he chose Apple over any other company 'if he likely had opportunities come his way over 17 years'. We don't know if he was ever offered anything prior to this, again it's an assumption. We could also assume he took the opportunity at Apple because they made him the best offer, could we not? It doesn't necessarily mean he took the offer because he felt most loyal to them. Humans are fickle creatures and money talks. Anyway I know you are often keen to keep threads on topic during sticky times so let's try and get back to the topic at hand. What did the OP do about this jealousy and did it last? lol ;)
 

burgman

macrumors 68030
Sep 24, 2013
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I'm glad AnandTech as been sold so this make believe bias story can go away. Yeah right as if that will happen.
 

Technarchy

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May 21, 2012
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I'm glad AnandTech as been sold so this make believe bias story can go away. Yeah right as if that will happen.

Anandtech has been one of the most credible sources for tech reviews for a long time. The fact their reviews tend to validate the strength of Apple engineering makes the Android club froth, just like the ATI fans back in the day when nvidia was showing their tech prowess and anandtech reviews backed up the hype.
 

ecrispy

macrumors regular
Oct 27, 2013
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The iPhone 6+ is literally just a bigger iPhone, its Apple copying Android oem's because they couldn't ignore the demand for bigger phones anymore.

For years Apple kept repeating '3.5" is the ideal size' which then changed to 'oh no we really meant 4 is the perfect size'.

Apple copies Android - just like notifications, control center, copy paste, Siri, custom keyboards, notification widgets, typing prediction, and tons more.

It's pretty well known any new innovation takes a few years or more to show up in Apple products, but its usually polished, and its always proprietary. This is what they do.

Samsung, LG big phones all contain features designed to make your life easier. But these companies don't have Apple's marketing or rabid fans, so they are made fun of.

e.g. Samsung's gesture to reduce screen size is MUCH more useful than Apple's - I'd rather have the entire phone UI rather than shrinking it to half size. Yet most reviews tell users Apple has a great feature.

Other than landscape mode in a few apps, Apple did nothing to utilize the big screen. Of course this is part of their strategy - why add 2 features when you can stretch them out over multiple releases.
 

burgman

macrumors 68030
Sep 24, 2013
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Anandtech has been one of the most credible sources for tech reviews for a long time. The fact their reviews tend to validate the strength of Apple engineering makes the Android club froth, just like the ATI fans back in the day when nvidia was showing their tech prowess and anandtech reviews backed up the hype.
And your point is?
 

Fernandez21

macrumors 601
Jun 16, 2010
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Only nerds/geeks care about benchmarks.

While agree only us geeks care about benchmark scores, they often translate well into performance, depending on how well the software is. To me a benchmark is far more useful than specs,
 

Michael Goff

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Jul 5, 2012
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The iPhone 6+ is literally just a bigger iPhone, its Apple copying Android oem's because they couldn't ignore the demand for bigger phones anymore.

For years Apple kept repeating '3.5" is the ideal size' which then changed to 'oh no we really meant 4 is the perfect size'.

Apple copies Android - just like notifications, control center, copy paste, Siri, custom keyboards, notification widgets, typing prediction, and tons more.

It's pretty well known any new innovation takes a few years or more to show up in Apple products, but its usually polished, and its always proprietary. This is what they do.

Samsung, LG big phones all contain features designed to make your life easier. But these companies don't have Apple's marketing or rabid fans, so they are made fun of.

e.g. Samsung's gesture to reduce screen size is MUCH more useful than Apple's - I'd rather have the entire phone UI rather than shrinking it to half size. Yet most reviews tell users Apple has a great feature.

Other than landscape mode in a few apps, Apple did nothing to utilize the big screen. Of course this is part of their strategy - why add 2 features when you can stretch them out over multiple releases.

Siri came out before Google Now. How is it copying?
 

The-Real-Deal82

macrumors P6
Jan 17, 2013
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And your point is?

They are saying this reliable source don't necessarily satisfy the Android fanboys of this world because they appreciate what Apple bring to the market. At least that is how I read it.

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The iPhone 6+ is literally just a bigger iPhone, its Apple copying Android oem's because they couldn't ignore the demand for bigger phones anymore.



For years Apple kept repeating '3.5" is the ideal size' which then changed to 'oh no we really meant 4 is the perfect size'.



Apple copies Android - just like notifications, control center, copy paste, Siri, custom keyboards, notification widgets, typing prediction, and tons more.



It's pretty well known any new innovation takes a few years or more to show up in Apple products, but its usually polished, and its always proprietary. This is what they do.



Samsung, LG big phones all contain features designed to make your life easier. But these companies don't have Apple's marketing or rabid fans, so they are made fun of.



e.g. Samsung's gesture to reduce screen size is MUCH more useful than Apple's - I'd rather have the entire phone UI rather than shrinking it to half size. Yet most reviews tell users Apple has a great feature.



Other than landscape mode in a few apps, Apple did nothing to utilize the big screen. Of course this is part of their strategy - why add 2 features when you can stretch them out over multiple releases.

Opinions, assumptions, inaccuracies, pot and kettle all spring to mind reading that.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
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While agree only us geeks care about benchmark scores, they often translate well into performance, depending on how well the software is. To me a benchmark is far more useful than specs,

OK but who cares? I don't care if my pages load a second slower or if they load a second faster than the guy next to me. Its pretty irrelevant. I sure don't peak over to see if mine beat his and think" man his phone sucks". Benchmarks to 95% of people don't mean squat
 

Wiesenlooser

macrumors 6502a
Jul 9, 2010
987
1,551
Amoled vs LCD

The Amoled has far better blacks, whites and screen uniformity but the colours can be a little cartoony for some people. Apple does have a patent for their own OLED screen and I wish they would go with it.

Amoled does not have better whites. In fact displaying white has always been somewhat of a wheakness of OLEDs, their whites are always tinted.

I compared the Note 4 and iphone 6 plus side by sides.
Resolution wise I could not see a difference, the blacks were of course better with the note 4.
But the iphone 6 plus screen was also brighter and had better whites.
 

Fernandez21

macrumors 601
Jun 16, 2010
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3,183
OK but who cares? I don't care if my pages load a second slower or if they load a second faster than the guy next to me. Its pretty irrelevant. I sure don't peak over to see if mine beat his and think" man his phone sucks". Benchmarks to 95% of people don't mean squat

Huh? Who said anything about using those scores to "peak over to see if mine beat his and think man his phone sucks"? your talking about a very small minority who get into pissing contests over small differences in benchmark scores (just read this thread).

I also never said that most people look at benchmarks, most don't have a clue what they mean. I was saying that benchmarks are a useful tool to look at when comparing performance, and performance is something most people do look at, and that benchmarks are a more useful tool than simply looking at specs which is what most people do, just look at specs.
 
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