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Simple... 4 vs. 8 cores. I7 has 8 virtual cores. Look at other stats at geekbench - 16 cores class of its own, 8 cores too etc. Adjust for clock speed. I am guessing i7 (I have on order:) will be about the same as 2.66 quad 09 MP.

I doubt the 2.8 i7 memory bandwidth will be as good as the 2.66 xeon (twin channel vs triple) but the score should be close (taking into account 200MHz extra and lynnfield architecture on the i7)
 
I'm quite surprised that the i5 benchmarks posted here are so much lower than my base '09 Mac Pro. I thought the i5 and i7 architecture was basically the same, minus the hyperthreading?

But I don't think we are comparing apples to apples here. You are using the 64-bit app for the Mac Pro score and the i5 is on the 32-bit.

I would assume the i5 64-bit score would be higher?
 
I doubt the 2.8 i7 memory bandwidth will be as good as the 2.66 xeon (twin channel vs triple) but the score should be close (taking into account 200MHz extra and lynnfield architecture on the i7)

I am throttling with dual channel (4 modules) on my '09 quad, and my geekbench score in memory performance actually went up. I don't see where there is a negligible difference.
 
Props to the OP for including the venerable 12" Powerbook in the photo!!!

Long live the 12" Powerbook!

:D
 
But I don't think we are comparing apples to apples here. You are using the 64-bit app for the Mac Pro score and the i5 is on the 32-bit.

I would assume the i5 64-bit score would be higher?

I just ran both versions on both computers again, the results weren't even worth posting here. There was only a ~100 point discrepancy, which could have been caused by a host of other things anyway.
 
that is only possible in Windows with CPU-Z program, i guess.

but thank you for all the effort.

Hah effort smeffort here you go:)


Well according to CPU-Z
Number of cores 4 (max 8)
Number of threads 4 (max 16)
Name Intel Core i5 750
Codename Lynnfield
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz
Package (platform ID) Socket 1156 LGA (0x1)
CPUID 6.E.5
Extended CPUID 6.1E
Core Stepping B1
Technology 45 nm
Core Speed 3190.4 MHz
Multiplier x FSB 24.0 x 132.9 MHz
Rated Bus speed 2392.8 MHz
Stock frequency 2666 MHz
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EM64T
L1 Data cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4 x 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L3 cache 8 MBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes

Turbo Mode supported, enabled
Max non-turbo ratio 20x
Max turbo ratio 24x
Max efficiency ratio 9x
TDP Limit 95 Watts
TDC Limit 89 Amps
Core TDP 89 Watts
Uncore TDP 6 Watts
Power @ 9x 14 Watts
Power @ 10x 17 Watts
Power @ 11x 20 Watts
Power @ 12x 25 Watts
Power @ 13x 30 Watts
Power @ 14x 36 Watts
Power @ 15x 43 Watts
Power @ 16x 51 Watts
Power @ 17x 60 Watts
Power @ 18x 70 Watts
Power @ 19x 82 Watts
Power @ 20x 95 Watts
 
Props to the OP for including the venerable 12" Powerbook in the photo!!!

Long live the 12" Powerbook!

:D


Haha ya we don't use the lil beast anymore but we just can't bring ourselves to get rid of it. And yes it still works perfectly!!
 
Did you happen to notice what the fan speeds were?


Ugh sorry I was so busy opening up every program I had and having too much fun I forgot the fan speed :( I will tell you there was no audible change in the system.
 
For COMPARISON Here is my Gaming Rig geekbench scores..

these are the scores of my PC gaming rig ----> Core i7 920 @ 3.8Ghz 6GB DDR3-1600 - 80 GB Intel SSD Gen2 - ATI Radeon 5870



Summary
Section Description Score Geekbench Score 9978
Geekbench 2.1.4 for Windows x86 (32-bit)
Integer Processor integer performance 11349 9978
Floating Point Processor floating point performance 11962
Memory Memory performance 5793
Stream Memory bandwidth performance 6615

System Information
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
Model System manufacturer System Product Name Motherboard ASUSTeK Computer INC. Rampage II Extreme
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz
Processor ID GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 4
Processors 1 Threads 8
Cores 4 Memory 5.99 GB 1066 MHz
Processor Frequency 3.84 GHz Bus Frequency 192 MHz
L1 Instruction Cache 128 KB L1 Data Cache 128 KB
L2 Cache 1.00 MB L3 Cache 8.00 MB
BIOS American Megatrends Inc. 1104

Integer Section
Section Score 11349
Blowfish
single-threaded scalar 2220
97.5 MB/sec
Blowfish
multi-threaded scalar 15671
642.2 MB/sec
Text Compress
single-threaded scalar 3463
11.1 MB/sec
Text Compress
multi-threaded scalar 18050
59.2 MB/sec
Text Decompress
single-threaded scalar 3690
15.2 MB/sec
Text Decompress
multi-threaded scalar 20198
80.5 MB/sec
Image Compress
single-threaded scalar 3085
25.5 Mpixels/sec
Image Compress
multi-threaded scalar 16304
137.2 Mpixels/sec
Image Decompress
single-threaded scalar 3225
54.1 Mpixels/sec
Image Decompress
multi-threaded scalar 16018
261.3 Mpixels/sec
Lua
single-threaded scalar 5912
2.28 Mnodes/sec
Lua
multi-threaded scalar 28361
10.9 Mnodes/sec

Floating Point Section
Section Score 11962
Mandelbrot
single-threaded scalar 2883
1.92 Gflops
Mandelbrot
multi-threaded scalar 19362
12.7 Gflops
Dot Product
single-threaded scalar 1583
765.1 Mflops
Dot Product
multi-threaded scalar 12060
5.50 Gflops
Dot Product
single-threaded vector 6391
7.66 Gflops
Dot Product
multi-threaded vector 29485
30.7 Gflops
LU Decomposition
single-threaded scalar 3569
3.18 Gflops
LU Decomposition
multi-threaded scalar 14651
12.8 Gflops
Primality Test
single-threaded scalar 6145
917.8 Mflops
Primality Test
multi-threaded scalar 25484
4.73 Gflops
Sharpen Image
single-threaded scalar 1343
3.13 Mpixels/sec
Sharpen Image
multi-threaded scalar 9200
21.2 Mpixels/sec
Blur Image
single-threaded scalar 4663
3.69 Mpixels/sec
Blur Image
multi-threaded scalar 30650
24.1 Mpixels/sec

Memory Section
Section Score 5793
Read Sequential
single-threaded scalar 5860
7.18 GB/sec
Write Sequential
single-threaded scalar 10352
7.08 GB/sec
Stdlib Allocate
single-threaded scalar 1708
6.37 Mallocs/sec
Stdlib Write
single-threaded scalar 4955
10.3 GB/sec
Stdlib Copy
single-threaded scalar 6090
6.28 GB/sec

Stream Section
Section Score 6615
Stream Copy
single-threaded scalar 6076
8.31 GB/sec
Stream Copy
single-threaded vector 8515
11.0 GB/sec
Stream Scale
single-threaded scalar 5698
7.39 GB/sec
Stream Scale
single-threaded vector 8036
10.8 GB/sec
Stream Add
single-threaded scalar 5395
8.14 GB/sec
Stream Add
single-threaded vector 7869
10.9 GB/sec
Stream Triad
single-threaded scalar 5787
8.00 GB/sec
Stream Triad
single-threaded vector 5551
10.4 GB/sec
 
Well according to CPU-Z
Number of cores 4 (max 8)
Number of threads 4 (max 16)
Name Intel Core i5 750
Codename Lynnfield
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz
Package (platform ID) Socket 1156 LGA (0x1)
CPUID 6.E.5
Extended CPUID 6.1E
Core Stepping B1
Technology 45 nm
Core Speed 3190.4 MHz
Multiplier x FSB 24.0 x 132.9 MHz
Rated Bus speed 2392.8 MHz
Stock frequency 2666 MHz

thank you! that is stock intel CPU!!

first stock intel quad core CPU in the iMac (with out any changes for apple)
 
I just ran Geekbench on my Mac Pro without a restart and only in 32-bit mode and I would say these are some impressive iMac's but no Mac Pro.

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/183105

I hope to see someone post up some info in response to nanofrogs post soon.

Could you run:
iTunes
Quicktime
Flash under Safari

Paying attention to the temps and core % utilizations for each instance?

There's an entire thread on this. These instances (and a few others related to the underlying Quicktime X code) that have caused high temps for low core usage in the Mac Pros.

It's suspected SL is the culprit, and if it is, high temps will show up on the i5 and i7 based iMacs compared to other operations of ~ the same CPU % of utilization. It's not occuring on the non-Nahalem based MP systems. But we're trying to isolate it.

Any assistance in this matter would be truly appreciated. Thanks. :)
 
Well that was a good question so here is what I tried to test this...
First I opened WoW and put it in windowed mode, next I opened Photoshop and then Itunes and started UP playing in HD. Next I opened up my windows VM session and then started Handbrake and had it start converting a movie...and then i'm like what else can I do so opened a few intense flash sites and started streaming some V on Hulu:) Is that good enough for stress testing? . So I checked Istat and it shows me running at 47 to 50 degrees celsius on CPU. My GPU Diode and and GPU Heatsink hit 75 celsius but everything was running smooth as can be.

This is just perfect. I'm glad I just spent 2k$ on it.
Super excited... can't wait to get rid of my thinkpad :)
 
These numbers are really making me look forward to my i7. I just ran the number on my 7 year old XP box. 1435 isn't bad for a 7 year old machine but nothing compared to what I expect in the new iMac.

For fun I also ran geekbench against my 1st gen Air. 2207....
 
I just ran Geekbench on my Mac Pro without a restart and only in 32-bit mode and I would say these are some impressive iMac's but no Mac Pro.

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/183105

I hope to see someone post up some info in response to nanofrogs post soon.

that is an impressive benchmark!

yup OP can you please test it for us? (nano's request)

also, are there any screen flickers at all?
 
I just ran both versions on both computers again, the results weren't even worth posting here. There was only a ~100 point discrepancy, which could have been caused by a host of other things anyway.

I ran both versions on mine and saw a significant difference ~4700 (64-bit) vs. ~4200 (32-bit). 500 points is a significant difference.
 
Could you run:
iTunes
Quicktime
Flash under Safari

Paying attention to the temps and core % utilizations for each instance?

There's an entire thread on this. These instances (and a few others related to the underlying Quicktime X code) that have caused high temps for low core usage in the Mac Pros.

It's suspected SL is the culprit, and if it is, high temps will show up on the i5 and i7 based iMacs compared to other operations of ~ the same CPU % of utilization. It's not occuring on the non-Nahalem based MP systems. But we're trying to isolate it.

Any assistance in this matter would be truly appreciated. Thanks. :)

Ok ran exactly as you asked for over 20 mins this is what I got.

With all running at the same time:
cpu usage never went over 7%
Temp steady at 47 to 50 celsius
Fan 938 rpm
Itunes on its own uses 23% of the total cpu usage
Crazy heavy flash no effect

Just incase I wasn't understanding correctly even run on their own no apparent change in temps or cpu usage.

I Hope that helps.
 
Ok ran exactly as you asked for over 20 mins this is what I got.

With all running at the same time:
cpu usage never went over 7%
Temp steady at 47 to 50 celsius
Fan 938 rpm

Itunes on its own uses 23% of the total cpu usage
Crazy heavy flash no effect

I Hope that helps.

hmm. what temperatures would the CPU idle on with nothing happening? something around the 47 to 50 °C? if so, great!. if not - hmmm :(

so flash plays well? what CPU utilisation were you seeing?
 
we arent load testing, we are checking to see if the iMacs have the similar issue as the latest MPs do when playing music, or anything else that might use the QuickTime framework.

linky
Oh you were looking that bug. Still, I'd like to see a load test.

Is P55 the chipset on these Core i5/i7 iMacs? It should be but I'd like to make sure.
 
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