My reasons why Android is vastly inferior to the iPhone... What are yours?

[rjohnstone]

Again.I know how to root and obviously so do you.That doesn't mean everyone does were in a very small minority.Most people don't know half of the terms you just said.The everyday consumer has certain expectations of a device.Sure I can always root it but the everyday consumer has no idea even what that means.

But that was not the context of his response.

You stated :

Rooting an Android phone is ALOT more difficult then jailbreaking an iPhone its not for the faint of heart thats why alot of people don't do it.Its a shame

Which is simply not true.
Rooting an Android phone in many cases is a simple matter of downloading and running a script. Anyone with the ability to follow simple instructions can do it.

Rooting stock ICS on an SGS2 takes a whole whopping 30 seconds.
Hell, the ICS image for the SGS2 was rooted within a couple of hours of its release.

You still can't properly jailbreak a 4S.
Only tethered jailbreaks exist for A5 devices and they're buggy.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Again.I know how to root and obviously so do you.That doesn't mean everyone does were in a very small minority.Most people don't know half of the terms you just said.The everyday consumer has certain expectations of a device.Sure I can always root it but the everyday consumer has no idea even what that means.

You said jail breaking is easier than rooting. I find rooting to be easier than jailbreaking. The solutions for root do come faster than jailbreaking and then the tools come out.
Also the need to jailbreak and iPhone is much higher than the need to root android

 

[boy-better-know]

I prefer iOS, like most of you, but if the iPhone doesn't keep up, I will be dropping it this year for the first time ever. I am due an upgrade this summer, going to wait to see what Apple has up their sleeve.
If the screen isn't significantly larger I will be getting a Note. I went and looked at one the other day, and it is absolutely stunning, the screen is big and beautiful. I really want it, but I want a 5" iPhone even more.

 

[cynics]

I stopped reading where he said the galaxy nexus is the only device with ICS. If you can't get that right you obviously don't know much and you certainly shouldn't be commenting on the subject.

People read things about updates but actually have no idea what they are talking about (android users included). Never mind that the og droid got an update update in nov which kept it on par with the 3GS. But why would say Motorola for example send out an update that they have the features or bug fix already implemented? People just want the highest version number they don't even know what it includes!

There is only one app that hasn't worked on my Android tablet that I've ever run across. That is annoying but not exactly something I'd consider a big deal.

 

[SurferMan]

Still not sure what people mean by all this "horrible" lag plaguing Android etc, I've noticed more "lag", "hiccups", "freezing" on iOS5 on the other phones including the 4S then on my i777 GSII. I was anti-android before this phone, but it's been buttery smooth and fast since the day I got it last year. I actually like the light comfy feel of the phone. Sure the iPhone feels a bit better with the metal etc, but what's the point when it's more fragile then thin china plates. I mean I dropped my 4 on carpet once and the f'n screen shattered, on carpet lol. I've dropped the GSII a few times mainly if in the truck and forget it's on my lap, and nothing, not even a scratch. There's no point in bragging about how nice the phone looks or feels when it has to be covered up with a case so it doesn't break. It's like saying you have the hottest woman around but take her to the beach in sweat pants and a sweat shirt lol. Doesn't bother me if they have multiple models a year (plus the main ones like the Galaxy line that compete directly with the iPhone are once a year), it's not like if another phone comes out your phone is out of date and stops working , it'll be fine, older Androids it was more of an issue not now. Even if the GSII never got ICS and was stuck in GB for the next 2 years, it would be fine.... just like people use the 3GS still today. And then if you want, it's easy to root and rom these phones, no need to keep trying rom's daily... stick with the ones that are stable and updated, it's so easy to do, the ones having issues or complaining usually (just look at xda) is b/c they downloaded the wrong files and flashed the wrong model phone. If you have an i777 don't use files and flashes from the i900, pretty simple lol.

The way I have this phone setup I much prefer for business and personal use, plus it integrates fine with any of my programs or even Apple devices (MBP etc), and have had no trouble finding the same apps or similar on the market in which some do an even better job then the Apple variant. That's not to say the iPhones are bad, wouldn't still own 3 of them if that were true. The 4S the gf uses for work/personal, and the 4/3GS just keep around for backup or whatever since I didn't feel like selling them lol.

It's nice to not be blind and keep an open mind, verse getting drunk off the koolaid

There really needs to be a subforum for Android/other talk

 

[Six8]

That is a flat out lie. I had 4 android pos phones b4 my iPhone. Android is like a toy compared to ios. IMO

 

[lordofthereef]

It's a phone, not real estate! Buying a phone based on it's resale value is about as smart as buying a car for investment [ exotics excluded ]!

I agree with all of your points except this one. If you want the newest phone, year after year, and don't want to lose much (or any) money on it, iPhone is a pretty safe bet. Aside from the very first iPhone I purchased, I never had to add more money to the pot to upgrade. I don't view this as an investment. I view it as a platform that (thus far) allows me to upgrade yearly without any extra cost. And before anyone flips, I use Android and iOS on a daily basis, about equally.

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You said jail breaking is easier than rooting. I find rooting to be easier than jailbreaking. The solutions for root do come faster than jailbreaking and then the tools come out.
Also the need to jailbreak and iPhone is much higher than the need to root android

Sort of depends, bud. Have you used the nest JB for the 4S? It was, well, the easiest thing I have ever done, EVER. Load the app, wait about a minute, profit. I do agree, it depends on the release though. Both android and iOS dev teams are making these things idiot proof nowadays though.

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You still can't properly jailbreak a 4S.
Only tethered jailbreaks exist for A5 devices and they're buggy.

I assume you are referring to the 5.1 firmware?

 

[mbell1975]

I prefer iOS, like most of you, but if the iPhone doesn't keep up, I will be dropping it this year for the first time ever. I am due an upgrade this summer, going to wait to see what Apple has up their sleeve.
If the screen isn't significantly larger I will be getting a Note. I went and looked at one the other day, and it is absolutely stunning, the screen is big and beautiful. I really want it, but I want a 5" iPhone even more.

So you are giving up a phone that works well and an entire platform for a larger screen? Yea, I am going to toss my 55 inch Toshiba out the window and switch to Sharp unless Toshiba makes a 70 inch tv just for me! See how ridiculous that sounds? And I haven't even spent money buying apps for my Toshiba tv either...

 

[Apollo 13]

I also came from Android but may go back depending on the iPhone 5 looks. I noticed more Android users on iPhone forums then the other way around. Hell I use to think apple fanboys was worst but now I think Android fanboys are a lot worst. I joined this site as a Android user trolling. Now I own a iPad 2, iPhone 4, and a Asus Transformer and look from both sides.

 

[William.Mantle]

I question the OPs real motives for creating this thread

 

[cynics]

That is a flat out lie. I had 4 android pos phones b4 my iPhone. Android is like a toy compared to ios. IMO

Come on you can't call someone a liar then put IMO at the end of the post. Lol!

I agree a lot of Android phones FEEL cheap and flimsy compared to the iPhone. Usually they are more durable to drops cause of this flex though.

Although I'm not a huge fan of HTC I find their phones to be pretty solid feeling on par with the iPhone IMO lol.

 

[lordofthereef]

So you are giving up a phone that works well and an entire platform for a larger screen? Yea, I am going to toss my 55 inch Toshiba out the window and switch to Sharp unless Toshiba makes a 70 inch tv just for me! See how ridiculous that sounds? And I haven't even spent money buying apps for my Toshiba tv either...

He did say he had a look at the Note, and liked it. You also mak e the assumption that he doesn't know anything about Android. Hell, maybe he uses it on a daily basis like I do. How much have you spent on apps? Unless it's hundreds of dollars, I see no reason to stay married to an OS. I have spent maybe $70. That's one dinner out with the lady.

 

[surjavarman]

Symbian is vastly superior to both. It has been around far longer than both so it has shown longevity. It is backed up by the largest phone producer in the world bar none. It also has the largest amount of users bar none and a devoted fanbase.

The latest updates makes it even more competitive than it already was.

 

[Apollo 13]

You guys that arguing which is easier rooting or jailbreaking they are both easy if you know how to follow directions. Rooting isn't always a 30 sec thing either it depends what phone you get. If you get the wrong phone you're going to be doing a lot of reading and steps that can take 30mins.

 

[boy-better-know]

So you are giving up a phone that works well and an entire platform for a larger screen? Yea, I am going to toss my 55 inch Toshiba out the window and switch to Sharp unless Toshiba makes a 70 inch tv just for me! See how ridiculous that sounds? And I haven't even spent money buying apps for my Toshiba tv either...

Ok sorry I'll buy another iPhone?
Why are you offended. I have my iPad for all of my apps, and,yes, the screen is very important to me, and I want a bigger one. Logically, I will go for the note unless the iphone isbigger. Or were you just trying to show off about having a 55" tv? I am very impressed.

 

[lordofthereef]

You guys that arguing which is easier rooting or jailbreaking they are both easy if you know how to follow directions. Rooting isn't always a 30 sec thing either it depends what phone you get. If you get the wrong phone you're going to be doing a lot of reading and steps that can take 30mins.

Buy a flagship phone and you are almost certainly safe. Buy the 99 cent discount bin phone and you are likely to be in for a lot of reading, and probably a disappointing experience. These discount bin phones are probably the reason Android gets such a bad name.

 

[Apollo 13]

Ok sorry I'll buy another iPhone?
Why are you offended. I have my iPad for all of my apps, and,yes, the screen is very important to me, and I want a bigger one. Logically, I will go for the note unless the iphone isbigger. Or were you just trying to show off about having a 55" tv? I am very impressed.

Don't worry about it fanboys say dumb things. I've been arguing with dumb android fanboys for the last few days on XDA and come here and argue with apple fanboys. But that is a big ass phone.

 

[jvmxtra]

So conclusion for me at least is that, at this point, there is really no real advantage of picking one phone over the other. It's just preference at this point and majority of us happens to prefer iPhone.

However, at least for me, this year is the key as if apple don't come up w/ multiple sizes for their iPhone, I am leaving period. I will still have my apple laptop and iMac but phone, I can go back to the other side. Honestly, that is sad because phone is where real war is at right now. But eventually, droid will come to desktop as well. I prefer apple to win but I don't know.

 

[Apollo 13]

So conclusion for me at least is that, at this point, there is really no real advantage of picking one phone over the other. It's just preference at this point and majority of us happens to prefer iPhone.

However, at least for me, this year is the key as if apple don't come up w/ multiple sizes for their iPhone, I am leaving period. I will still have my apple laptop and iMac but phone, I can go back to the other side. Honestly, that is sad because phone is where real war is at right now. But eventually, droid will come to desktop as well. I prefer apple to win but I don't know.

Well for me it's all about the apps.

 

[B777Forevar]

I'm on break and I have nothing to do so I'll bite on a few points you made

1. Premium feel

tl;dr

Every heard of a company called HTC? Their build quality is great, and some of the build quality of their phones are on par with the iPhone (and even the Nokia N9/Lumia800)
The Android world doesn't revolve around Samsung you know.

2. Fragmentation
tl;dr
Look at Ice Cream Sandwich. It's been out what 5 months already? and only a single device has had it (Galaxy Nexus)

It's called called rooting your device. Plus it's the crappy ass U.S CARRIERS fault (they are cheap to pay for field testing for updates), not Google that updates are not being pushed out.

3. Resale value
tl;dr

you probably saw some cheap ass low end android phones then, because last time I checked, the high end Android phones are re-selling high, around iPhone prices too.

4. Pure experience
tl;dr

Sense a terrible skin? Slows down the phone? Whatthehellamireading.jpg
Do you have proof that Sense UI slows down the phone?
iOS is UGLY . Thank goodness for Winterboard and the theming community, otherwise I would have ditched this iPhone because the OS is ugly as hell.

5. Battery life
tl;dr

I have had better battery life on my Android devices than my iPhone. Especially after rooting and flashing a ROM to it.

 

[-aggie-]

Wait, mbell1975 just came from an Android phone to get the 4S on March 26

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/14614162/

But then had to return his 4S

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/14633497/

and he's now an expert on all things iPhone??

 

[cynics]

Well for me it's all about the apps.

This where I prefer Android the most. Developers have more freedom to make apps that can actually interact with the system. Like keyboards or file manager apps even apps that are allowed to run in the back ground (sleep cycle doesnt have to be in the foreground to work) for example.

People mention how much more quality apple apps have. And I agree but the apps that do suck are usually apps that are only available via cydia on the iPhone.

The 15 minute refund in the market is cool too!

 

[mbell1975]

Every heard of a company called HTC? Their build quality is great, and some of the build quality of their phones are on par with the iPhone (and even the Nokia N9/Lumia800)
The Android world doesn't revolve around Samsung you know.

you probably saw some cheap ass low end android phones then, because last time I checked, the high end Android phones are re-selling high, around iPhone prices too.

I have had better battery life on my Android devices than my iPhone. Especially after rooting and flashing a ROM to it.

You mean the same HTC that built the Evo? Funny, I stood in line 6 hours to get that phone. You probably didn't though or you would remember all the problems with that phone. Screens falling off, horrible light leak, weak radios and WIFI signal they had to release 3 patches to completely fix 4 months later, grounding issues where the touchscreen was unusable if the device was laying down rather than in hand...that HTC?

High end Android phones don't resell for crap. I just had to let my Galaxy S2 (widely regarded as the best Android phone on the market) go for $300 a few days ago. It retails for $500 still, no one would touch it for $400 with an extra battery, case 2 home chargers and a car charger. I had to put up 2 ads over 3 weeks and settled cause I couldn't get rid of it. Meanwhile, I sold my 4th gen iPod Touch for only $50 less than what they sell new and it was bought within an hour of posting the ad. It also took me forever to sell my Evo 3D and I had to sell it well under retail value as well. Its a joke to say Android phones have anywhere near the resale value iDevices do.

Your argument about battery life is just sad. You know damn well you have to root and ROM your Android phone to get anywhere close to the battery life of an iPhone 4s. Just the fact that you have to do that to get decent battery life shows what a POS platform Android has become.

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Wait, mbell1975 just came from an Android phone to get the 4S on March 26

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/14614162/

But then had to return his 4S

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/14633497/

and he's now an expert on all things iPhone??

Nope, didn't return the iPhone obviously. I decided my complaints with it were minor compared to the problems with the Android OS.

 

[SurferMan]

Your argument about battery life is just sad. You know damn well you have to root and ROM your Android phone to get anywhere close to the battery life of an iPhone 4s. Just the fact that you have to do that to get decent battery life shows what a POS platform Android has become.

Not entirely true, we use the GSII and 4S primarily for work/personal, GSII last longer through the day with heavy texting/emailing/calls/browsing etc, it's all how you setup the phone, originally battery life was mehh, but once calibrated and set the way I have it it's pretty good. Not rom'd either yet, still on 2.3.6, but this is the i777 version not sure about the others. The 4 is still better though (batt life) but we don't use that phone anymore.

 

[cynics]

Not entirely true, we use the GSII and 4S primarily for work/personal, GSII last longer through the day with heavy texting/emailing/calls/browsing etc, it's all how you setup the phone, originally battery life was mehh, but once calibrated and set the way I have it it's pretty good. Not rom'd either yet, still on 2.3.6, but this is the i777 version not sure about the others. The 4 is still better though but we don't use that phone anymore.

Don't bother if your experience differ from his you are either a liar or an idiot.

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