My reasons why Android is vastly inferior to the iPhone... What are yours?

[boy-better-know]

Don't worry about it fanboys say dumb things. I've been arguing with dumb android fanboys for the last few days on XDA and come here and argue with apple fanboys. But that is a big ass phone.

I know what you mean. I have a preference for Apple when it comes to computers, tablets and phones but It isn't blind preference. My mind is always open to new products.

Yeah it is pretty big but I just love the screen and it feels surprisingly nice in hand. Saying that, I can understand why a lot of people would just think it is not a portable enough device. Where as, if it fits into my pocket I am happy.

 

[Menel]

After Samsung Galaxy SII, iPhone 4(s) feels like a brick. Literally. Smartphone is a mobile device, the lighter it is the better (to a degree but we are nowhere near the point where the phone would be too light). One can easily obtain that "premium" iPhone feel with SGSII by gluing a couple of metal nuts to it. Obviously this has nothing to do with "premium". Not to mention the fact that the extra weight comes because of the glass back which is a stupid design decision on Apple's part and represents anything but a premium factor.

Machined aluminum and glass panels vs. tonka toy plastic

 

[lilo777]

Machined aluminum and glass panels vs. tonka toy plastic

Mobile device made out of glass? How stupid is that? I bet Apple used glass as a cheap alternative to the high end plastics that Samsung uses.

 

[cynics]

I like how people can list a few reasons (mostly false reasons) of why iOS is VASTLY superior. But when someone says otherwise (keeping in mind the op is mostly BS like the gnex is the only ics device and the battery ignoring the Maxx and uneducated claim to updates etc) its a huge problem and that person is a troll.

Seriously if you like iOS more then great I support your opinion, I like iOS. But if you are defending lies calling them fact well......? Don't know what that makes you but the obvious says you shouldn't call other people trolls.

 

[mbell1975]

I like how people can list a few reasons (mostly false reasons) of why iOS is VASTLY superior. But when someone says otherwise (keeping in mind the op is mostly BS like the gnex is the only ics device and the battery ignoring the Maxx and uneducated claim to updates etc) its a huge problem and that person is a troll.

Seriously if you like iOS more then great I support your opinion, I like iOS. But if you are defending lies calling them fact well......? Don't know what that makes you but the obvious says you shouldn't call other people trolls.

I like how Fandroids need to come in here and start trolling to try and justify their purchase. Why? Why do they care what we do here on an iPhone forum? They are here just to cause trouble.

 

[M5RahuL]

I like how Fandroids need to come in here and start trolling to try and justify their purchase. Why? Why do they care what we do here on an iPhone forum? They are here just to cause trouble.

lol, this thread really took off.. I didn't see the OP chime in at all!!

Anyway, we aren't Fandroids.. We own Apple, Android, Symbian, Meego, Windows.. and heck even feature phones !!

Plus, being an open public forum, everyone has a right to throw in their .02..isn't that what the OP did to stir the pot that kicked off all these e-emotions!!

I also read your post regarding how the HTC EVO had build issues... First off, I didn't have those issues [ except a minor light leak under the search button, so I can't say they were w/o issues ]. However, the 3GS was plagued with bad GPS chips, poor battery issues, and heat-up issues.. I went thru 2 3GSs before getting a defect free unit.

Even the iPhone 4 and 4S had issues.. Point being, in mass production, there are always bad units that slip thru the QC. HTC, is overall, a great manufacturer and *usually* their build quality is very good!

The Sammy GS2 might feel like a toy, but it's build is rock solid. I must've dropped it a few times but not a scratch or ding on it!!

I wish people stopped hating and getting so defensive over a phone that they probably won't even keep past it's refresh!!

Is materialism so important that we will stoop to berate and insult others choices ? It's really sad!

 

[cynics]

I like how Fandroids need to come in here and start trolling to try and justify their purchase. Why? Why do they care what we do here on an iPhone forum? They are here just to cause trouble.

No offense but you get very upset/angry when someone bashes the iPhone (this is obvious per your post). Yet you are confused why people get upset when their android phone gets bashed?

Most of these "trolls" are open minded iPhone and/or iPad users. Not random haters from android forums. Like me I have 2 iOS devices and 2 android devices. Love them all for different reasons.

Since I have both it's hard for me not to play devils advocate toward a person that only has one. So you say android sucks I feel compelled to debate that. I do the same thing on android forums when people bash the iPhone. I could completely agree with someone's opinion and still debate it. Lol

 

[matttye]

Lots of phones have had ice cream sandwich now, including the massively popular galaxy s2.

Other than that factual inaccuracy, you're entitled to your opinions.

 

[cynics]

For instance just for the debate. Why don't iPhone owners compare battery life to non LTE Android devices?

What's was Apples solution to battery life in the IPad 3? A gigantic battery (28nm things did help but a gigantic battery was the solution). But when this was done with the Maxx it's was a primitive solution.

Does it piss off iPhone owners when a Maxx owner says "I like the iPhone but need more battery life" on the Android forums? Yes! And the thread looks like this one. It's hilarious.

 

[mbell1975]

Since I have both it's hard for me not to play devils advocate toward a person that only has one. So you say android sucks I feel compelled to debate that.

So everyone must own an Apple device and an Android device to have legitimate claims? Thats laughable. There are plenty here like me who did have an Android device and got fed up with it, so they only own an Apple device. I started with Android years ago and owned 7 Android phones. Everything from the Hero to the Note just recently. I got sick of waiting 6 months for OS updates, force closes, battery pulls, POS apps put together by some kid in his basement and all the other junk that Android has become. So just because there are those of us who choose a platform that actually runs smoothly and one that updates 3 year old phones the same day as brand new ones (something you will NEVER see with Android) doesn't mean we don't know anything about the competition.

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Lots of phones have had ice cream sandwich now, including the massively popular galaxy s2.

Other than that factual inaccuracy, you're entitled to your opinions.

Wrong. You know how many Android phones have ICS? 3 percent ICS has been out for 5 months. That is simply pathetic. Only a few countries got the S2 rollout, nowhere near all the people who own one. They haven't even announced when its coming to the US, so you are wrong there too.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402538,00.asp

 

[lordofthereef]

Wrong. You know how many Android phones have ICS? 3 percent ICS has been out for 5 months.

It's worth noting that this has to do with how many of those phones people actually chose to update. Plenty of Android devices have ICS available. People are simply choosing not to update for various reasons, not the least of which I am sure is that they are basically unaware of the update being available.

 

[matttye]

Wrong. You know how many Android phones have ICS? 3 percent ICS has been out for 5 months. That is simply pathetic. Only a few countries got the S2 rollout, nowhere near all the people who own one. They haven't even announced when its coming to the US, so you are wrong there too.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402538,00.asp

None of what I said is wrong. He said the galaxy Nexus was the only phone which had ics. That's completely untrue. Lots of phones have released the ics update, but due to the carriers having to make their changes it may take a while to reach some people.

Then there are networks like three uk who have released their update before Samsung have released the galaxy s2 update to sim free customers!

The android software upgrading experience is pretty poor...not going to lie

 

[mbell1975]

Take awhile? LOL, its been 5 months This is the major problem with Android. Jellybean will be out for months before most Android users ever see ICS. Brand new phones running an 18 month old OS. You know how many of those people will have to buy new phones because they have been told the hardware in their phone can't run ICS? A bunch. However, my friend has a 2 year old Nexus One running ICS just fine. Carries don't want to upgrade existing customers because there is nothing in it for them. They would rather focus on new contracts they make a commission off. So the phone you just bought 6 months ago, yea, they don't care about upgrading that. Its just pathetic.

 

[lordofthereef]

my friend has a 2 year old Nexus One running ICS just fine.

You hit the nail on the head. As a consumer, one must educate himself, and buy the right phone if updates are what he is after. If we are to compare Apples to Apples, we should be comparing the iPhone line to the nexus line and not the iPhone line to any and all phones that run android, which is the way all these discussions inevitably go, I am afraid.

 

[matttye]

Take awhile? LOL, its been 5 months This is the major problem with Android. Jellybean will be out for months before most Android users ever see ICS. Brand new phones running an 18 month old OS. You know how many of those people will have to buy new phones because they have been told the hardware in their phone can't run ICS? A bunch. However, my friend has a 2 year old Nexus One running ICS just fine. Carries don't want to upgrade existing customers because there is nothing in it for them. They would rather focus on new contracts they make a commission off. So the phone you just bought 6 months ago, yea, they don't care about upgrading that. Its just pathetic.

The beauty of Android is customisation. Those who are geeky enough to care about the latest software should just root and get the latest roms. 4.0.4 was released for my phone about a day after it was released for the Nexus. So yeah, the official upgrade routes are very poor, but the unofficial ones are great

 

[Rennir]

Sigh...another thread. While opinions are fine, it's really not necessary for every Apple fan to create a thread about why they think iOS is better, especially because a lot of these reasons often overlap.

The better OS is the one that meets a person's needs the best. And since each person's needs are different, whether android or iOS is better will vary.

/thread

 

[matttye]

Sigh...another thread. While opinions are fine, it's really not necessary for every Apple fan to create a thread about why they think iOS is better, especially because a lot of these reasons often overlap.

The better OS is the one that meets a person's needs the best. And since each person's needs are different, whether android or iOS is better will vary.

/thread

Discussion boards are for sharing stories, opinions, advice, are they not?

 

[mbell1975]

You hit the nail on the head. As a consumer, one must educate himself, and buy the right phone if updates are what he is after. If we are to compare Apples to Apples, we should be comparing the iPhone line to the nexus line and not the iPhone line to any and all phones that run android, which is the way all these discussions inevitably go, I am afraid.

Ok. The Samsung Nexus S 4G is a Google phone, however, it still has not received ICS 5 months later. Reason? Google and Sprint came up with some BS about CDMA being harder to update than GSM. Really? I have a CDMA iPhone from Sprint and I got the 5.1 update same day the GSM iPhone did. iPhone wins. Next...

 

[cynics]

So everyone must own an Apple device and an Android device to have legitimate claims? Thats laughable. There are plenty here like me who did have an Android device and got fed up with it, so they only own an Apple device. I started with Android years ago and owned 7 Android phones. Everything from the Hero to the Note just recently. I got sick of waiting 6 months for OS updates, force closes, battery pulls, POS apps put together by some kid in his basement and all the other junk that Android has become. So just because there are those of us who choose a platform that actually runs smoothly and one that updates 3 year old phones the same day as brand new ones (something you will NEVER see with Android) doesn't mean we don't know anything about the competition.

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Wrong. You know how many Android phones have ICS? 3 percent ICS has been out for 5 months. That is simply pathetic. Only a few countries got the S2 rollout, nowhere near all the people who own one. They haven't even announced when its coming to the US, so you are wrong there too.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402538,00.asp

You'll never see an old Android device get an update? So the OG droid (2 1/2 years old or so) that got an update in November 2011 (around the time iOS 5 was released) didn't happen? There is no more reason to upgrade it anymore the device is rock solid. I actually read someone say why doesn't google update apple updated to 5.1. I laughed that was for bug fixing as if that counts as a significant update.

One may argue that it's not going to get ICS but that's only because it's actually a significant update unlike ios it even looks different (WOW). The device just can't handle it. But the nexus s (nearly a 1 1/2 years old) did get ICS because it can handle it, same with the Xoom getting ICS. I have a friend that upgraded from a 3GS to a 4S because iOS 5 crippled his phone. Why would I want that update? To brag about it? No thanks. All supporting old devices does is limit what you can do with the new OS. Are you telling me iOS will always suck because of 3GS owners?

Most of the time manufacture UI includes features and fixes that google releases in updates so there is no point in getting an update. If google added camera from the lock screen but the phone already had it there is no reason to get that update.

Most people apparently like you are just about the specs. Whoever dies with the highest version wins.

 

[lordofthereef]

Ok. The Samsung Nexus S 4G is a Google phone, however, it still has not received ICS 5 months later. Reason? Google and Sprint came up with some BS about CDMA being harder to update than GSM. Really? I have a CDMA iPhone from Sprint and I got the 5.1 update same day the GSM iPhone did. iPhone wins. Next...

I wasn't aware of this, as I don't use Sprint. By the way, why are you so intent on "picking a winner"? My point still stands. Educate yourself. You have helped educate me a little right there! I will not be picking a Google phone on Sprint's network anytime soon.

EDIT: FWIW, jumping from 5.0 to 5.1 in iOS is not the same as going from gingerbread to ICS, which was a huge rewrite. Not defending Android here, it could just be a load of bull, or there could be truth to it.

 

[mbell1975]

Every time you post you post more BS. You'll never see an old Android device get an update?

I said that you will never see a 3 year old Android phone get updated to the new OS the same day as a brand new one. The 3Gs got iOS 5 same day iPhone 4s did. You will NEVER see that with Android. Thats IF you even find a carrier supporting an Android phone for 3 years, good luck with that.

 

[matttye]

I said that you will never see a 3 year old Android phone get updated to the new OS the same day as a brand new one. Thats IF you even find a carrier supporting an Android phone for 3 years, good luck with that.

Android has a larger market share than iOS and a much wider range of carriers and devices (with their own custom skins) to contend with. Updating everyone at the same time would be a logistical nightmare and practically impossible.

 

[mbell1975]

EDIT: FWIW, jumping from 5.0 to 5.1 in iOS is not the same as going from gingerbread to ICS, which was a huge rewrite. Not defending Android here, it could just be a load of bull, or there could be truth to it.

Yep, a load of bull. It doesn't matter how big or small the update is. I never saw an update quicker than 4 months with any Android phone I had. You will be waiting a good 5-6 months to ever see it on your Android phone unless its a Nexus phone on a GSM network. Kinda limits your options there doesn't it?

 

[lordofthereef]

The 3Gs got iOS 5 same day iPhone 4s did.

True story. A 3GS with 5.x sucks. Also a true story.

 

[Rennir]

Discussion boards are for sharing stories, opinions, advice, are they not?

Yes but there are literally dozens of threads on this very topic, and each thread has tens if not hundreds of posts that argue each side that any new thread will inevitably be repeating what has already been stated (most likely multiple times) that its just not worth the time.

Besides, there's so many logical fallacies and disinformation (personal anecdotes, badly cited data, etc.) that it's really better for a consumer to go an try them out themselves.