My reasons why Android is vastly inferior to the iPhone... What are yours?

[lordofthereef]

Yep, a load of bull. It doesn't matter how big or small the update is. I never saw an update quicker than 4 months with any Android phone I had. You will be waiting a good 5-6 months to ever see it on your Android phone unless its a Nexus phone on a GSM network. Kinda limits your options there doesn't it?

Just wondering, do you know this as fact? With the onset of LTE (a GSM technology), I am sure this issue will be behind us pretty soon anyway. But it isn;t a good problem to have, admittedly.

 

[matttye]

Yep, a load of bull. It doesn't matter how big or small the update is. I never saw an update quicker than 4 months with any Android phone I had. You will be waiting a good 5-6 months to ever see it on your Android phone unless its a Nexus phone on a GSM network. Kinda limits your options there doesn't it?

You have the option of rooting and upgrading to a custom rom very early on, so your options aren't "limited" at all. Some people prefer not to run the "risk" of doing this but the option is there.

 

[mbell1975]

Android has a larger market share than iOS and a much wider range of carriers and devices (with their own custom skins) to contend with. Updating everyone at the same time would be a logistical nightmare and practically impossible.

...and there is the exact problem with Android that will be its eventual downfall. Once it gets to the point where these carriers have to figure out how to make Google's updates run on 8 different processors running a number of different cores and different CPU chips, forget it. Its going to reach the point VERY soon where you will never see an OS update for an Android phone, carrier are already overwhelmed and it will get worse. Have fun with that though.

 

[GoCubsGo]

The battery life on my Droid X was far superior to any iPhone I've ever owned.

 

[matttye]

Yes but there are literally dozens of threads on this very topic, and each thread has tens if not hundreds of posts that argue each side that any new thread will inevitably be repeating what has already been stated (most likely multiple times) that its just not worth the time.

Besides, there's so many logical fallacies and disinformation (personal anecdotes, badly cited data, etc.) that it's really better for a consumer to go an try them out themselves.

I agree with your second paragraph

Ultimately I don't see the harm in discussing commonly debated topics again! The thread title is very specific, people can simply avoid this topic if they wish.

 

[M5RahuL]

..iPhone wins. Next...

So it wins because it gets an update across the board the same day ? That's bound to happen when the hardware and software is manufactured by the same company! No surprises there. It has no one else to cater to!

The iPhone *may* win when it gets LTE, steps away from the icon-only UI, allows for memory card, removable battery etc etc.. Oh, on the software side, gets true multitasking..

On the same note, Android isn't as mature because it's evolving at a steady pace. Apple iOS, on the other had, has pretty much remained the same with incremental upgrades aka playing it safe. This has thus proven to be a good thing for Apple because it's made iOS really stable.

However, as most of us can see now, iOS users are bored with the same UI and same size screen and what not.. This is why we see so many Android threads popping up on an Apple forum. People are gravitating towards something new, yet proven!

It's natural in the tech world. Apple has milked this iOS layout and snail-paced advancements beyond it's capacity!!

 

[cynics]

I said that you will never see a 3 year old Android phone get updated to the new OS the same day as a brand new one. The 3Gs got iOS 5 same day iPhone 4s did. You will NEVER see that with Android. Thats IF you even find a carrier supporting an Android phone for 3 years, good luck with that.

You could just say your wrong and I'm right. I can live with that. Ignoring the rest of my post admits defeat so yay me!!

 

[matttye]

...and there is the exact problem with Android that will be its eventual downfall. Once it gets to the point where these carriers have to figure out how to make Google's updates run on 8 different processors running a number of different cores and different CPU chips, forget it. Its going to reach the point VERY soon where you will never see an OS update for an Android phone, carrier are already overwhelmed and it will get worse. Have fun with that though.

It won't get worse for me because I root my phone and Android has an excellent developer community.

Plus timely software updates are only a concern for the geeks and it's not going to be the downfall of Android. Get real. Androids overwhelming success is because it targets all markets; power users, people who want something cheap, business, etc etc. Theres a phone for everyone.

 

[mbell1975]

So it wins because it gets an update across the board the same day ? That's bound to happen when the hardware and software is manufactured by the same company! No surprises there. It has no one else to cater to!

The iPhone *may* win when it gets LTE, steps away from the icon-only UI, allows for memory card, removable battery etc etc.. Oh, on the software side, gets true multitasking..

On the same note, Android isn't as mature because it's evolving at a steady pace. Apple iOS, on the other had, has pretty much remained the same with incremental upgrades aka playing it safe. This has thus proven to be a good thing for Apple because it's made iOS really stable.

However, as most of us can see now, iOS users are bored with the same UI and same size screen and what not.. This is why we see so many Android threads popping up on an Apple forum. People are gravitating towards something new, yet proven!

It's natural in the tech world. Apple has milked this iOS layout and snail-paced advancements beyond it's capacity!!

yea, the iPhone is in real trouble LOL

http://www.examiner.com/technology-...all-android-phones-at-sprint-and-at-t-analyst

 

[M5RahuL]

yea, the iPhone is in real trouble LOL

http://www.examiner.com/technology-...all-android-phones-at-sprint-and-at-t-analyst

When did I say the iPhone was in trouble ?

You seem to read what you *want* to read!

 

[mbell1975]

When did I say the iPhone was in trouble ?

You seem to read what you *want* to read!

Hmmmm, you basically said people are leaving the iPhone for something new like Android! If you meant something else in your post, please explain.

 

[SurferMan]

True story. A 3GS with 5.x sucks. Also a true story.

Agree, seemed fine at first and ran very smooth but then my 3GS became so laggy and glitchy after awhile. I just checked it to see and it seemed fine swiping and scrolling then the hiccups start, most notably no wifi still since iOS5 update which plenty have complained about and Apple finally acknowledged but doesn't know how to fix (seems to affect X phones made durring X period)... yet if downgraded to iOS4 wifi works fine, explain that lol? But the other big issue, huge lag when typing now. Fresh install on new restore doesn't make a difference, neither did jb'd or non-jb'd. The 4 run's smooth on iOS5 however it too has had no wifi unless right next to the router, and I know electronics, played and changed every setting of the router, no difference, even replaced the wifi cables in the phones to check. Even went as far as sending an email with others describing the same thing, and going to the Apple store with my MBP to jb/downgrade and show them the glitch with wifi which they said others had same complaints but nothing they could do as Apple didn't have anything in the system regarding it, they still don't even though they acknowledge the glitch plaguing many.

That's pretty much what pushed me to the GSII, plus I got in on that killer Sams Club special online at .96 cents for the phone on upgrade or whatever it was, couldn't pass that up. Didn't want the 4S and wanted soemthing different, and been happy since, no complaints. 4S replaced the gf's new Bold that crapped out, couldn't stand using BB ui and system anyway lol, it's so clumsy vs iOS and Android.

 

[rjohnstone]

...and there is the exact problem with Android that will be its eventual downfall. Once it gets to the point where these carriers have to figure out how to make Google's updates run on 8 different processors running a number of different cores and different CPU chips, forget it. Its going to reach the point VERY soon where you will never see an OS update for an Android phone, carrier are already overwhelmed and it will get worse. Have fun with that though.

The carriers don't have to figure anything out. They don't write any code at all, the phone manufacturer does.

The carrier simply runs tests against the radio firmware and drops in any branding.
They do the same radio firmware tests for all iOS updates as well.
Apple can't push an iOS update that includes any radio changes out without the carrier sign off.

If you knew anything about how to code for Android you would know this.
The vendor takes the underlying OS and frameworks from Google and applies their kernel drivers for the hardware they're using and then they add their customizations.

 

[Stainlessray]

Sounds Like...

OP "I do not like green eggs and ham, I do not like them Sam I am.

 

[M5RahuL]

Hmmmm, you basically said people are leaving the iPhone for something new like Android! If you meant something else in your post, please explain.

And, they are! It's pretty evident from a few threads here.. But, that doesn't imply the iPhone being in trouble as people will migrate from other OS'es, and many existing ones will stay loyal, to the iOS!

Pretty simple concept!

 

[cynics]

Agree, seemed fine at first and ran very smooth but then my 3GS became so laggy and glitchy after awhile. I just checked it to see and it seemed fine swiping and scrolling then the hiccups start, most notably no wifi still since iOS5 update which plenty have complained about and Apple finally acknowledged but doesn't know how to fix (seems to affect X phones made durring X period)... yet if downgraded to iOS4 wifi works fine, explain that lol? But the other big issue, huge lag when typing now. Fresh install on new restore doesn't make a difference, neither did jb'd or non-jb'd. The 4 run's smooth on iOS5 however it too has had no wifi unless right next to the router, and I know electronics, played and changed every setting of the router, no difference, even replaced the wifi cables in the phones to check. Even went as far as sending an email with others describing the same thing, and going to the Apple store with my MBP to jb/downgrade and show them the glitch with wifi which they said others had same complaints but nothing they could do as Apple didn't have anything in the system regarding it, they still don't even though they acknowledge the glitch plaguing many.

NO!!! The update to ios 5 worked perfectly!!! Updates are all that matters!! (sarcasm intended)

 

[mbell1975]

Agree, seemed fine at first and ran very smooth but then my 3GS became so laggy and glitchy after awhile. I just checked it to see and it seemed fine swiping and scrolling then the hiccups start, most notably no wifi still since iOS5 update which plenty have complained about and Apple finally acknowledged but doesn't know how to fix (seems to affect X phones made durring X period)... yet if downgraded to iOS4 wifi works fine, explain that lol? But the other big issue, huge lag when typing now. Fresh install on new restore doesn't make a difference, neither did jb'd or non-jb'd. The 4 run's smooth on iOS5 however it too has had no wifi unless right next to the router, and I know electronics, played and changed every setting of the router, no difference, even replaced the wifi cables in the phones to check. Even went as far as sending an email with others describing the same thing, and going to the Apple store with my MBP to jb/downgrade and show them the glitch with wifi which they said others had same complaints but nothing they could do as Apple didn't have anything in the system regarding it, they still don't even though they acknowledge the glitch plaguing many.

That's pretty much what pushed me to the GSII, plus I got in on that killer Sams Club special online at .96 cents for the phone on upgrade or whatever it was, couldn't pass that up. Didn't want the 4S and wanted soemthing different, and been happy since, no complaints. 4S replaced the gf's new Bold that crapped out, couldn't stand using BB ui and system anyway lol, it's so clumsy vs iOS and Android.

What happens if your S2 becomes glitchy after the ICS update? Thats a VERY real possibility. You going to sell it and get a Windows phone?

 

[rjohnstone]

What happens if your S2 becomes glitchy after the ICS update? Thats a VERY real possibility. You going to sell it and get a Windows phone?

The S2 (I91xx) ICS update is already out. Been out for almost a month now.
Works just fine.
The leaks of official ICS builds for other S2 variants (I777, I727/R) work nicely too.
Those builds are all in carrier testing right now, but the leaks are available on XDA and Rootwiki.

 

[lordofthereef]

What happens if your S2 becomes glitchy after the ICS update? Thats a VERY real possibility. You going to sell it and get a Windows phone?

Sounds like a big reason he went for a new phone with more power was that it was 96 cents on upgrade. Missed that part?

But as a general rule, yes. Once your hardware becomes too outdated to run current software properly, people tend to upgrade.

 

[cynics]

What happens if your S2 becomes glitchy after the ICS update? Thats a VERY real possibility. You going to sell it and get a Windows phone?

Its not a possibility though. People have already been running it unofficially sorry.

 

[marksman]

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2. Fragmentation

The iPhone doesn't have this problem. Most anyone with a device in the last 3 years can get an update the very day it comes out. You don't have to wait around like a helpless child hoping your carrier doesn't hold things up further.

Look at Ice Cream Sandwich. It's been out what 5 months already? and only a single device has had it (Galaxy Nexus)

Fragmentation is a dirty word for CHOICE! A lot of iOS users want a different flavor and are forced to jump to anoter OS.

Yeah no it's not. It is the reality of having devices being eoled the day they are released with little to no chance of official upgrades.

 

[SurferMan]

What happens if your S2 becomes glitchy after the ICS update? Thats a VERY real possibility. You going to sell it and get a Windows phone?

So far people are impressed with the build on this phone and thats with a leaked version they've been working on, though I still think there was an issue or two for them to workout, something to do with reminders not running con-current unless that was fixed already? Way better then having no wifi and other issues on the iPhones after updating lol.

Not worried with this phone line b/c it has massive support by dev's and it's too easy to root and rom. With Apple your pretty much sol with updates, bet with iOS6 the 4S will be fine but the 4 will be iffy, just like the 3gs is, and before that the 3G and 2 with updates.

However it seems carriers, at least with Samsung and AT&T are trying to get on a faster sched for updates. So hopefully it get's better down the road for those that don't want to root/rom.

 

[Vanarak19]

Thought I should chime in, as I own both currently. Im having a hard time keeping my 4s over the Nexus I have....heres why.

I think ICS is a huge step in the right direction. Is it all the way there? NO. But there is something about calendar widgets, custom roms, and the overall feel of android that I feel appeals more to me.

Yes I have a new ipad. Yes I have a mac...but I use google for everything, have purcahsed 20GB (5$), and use picasa. The android just fits, where the iphone, while a nicer overall phone (minus the screen, the android blacks are phenominal), lacks a few things for me.

1. In no fault to iphone, but have to mention it. I get 4gb with the droid, only 2gb with the iphone, for the same price.
2. I get a bigger screen. I cant wait for an iphone with a 4".
3. Widgets. Iconstantly found myself not checking my cal/todo with the iphone, ause they arent right in front always...yes I used lockinfo, but its just not available on the 4s right now.

I wouldnt have touched a pre-ICS phone, I had a few, and they were crap. The only thing that doesnt work well with ICS/nexus is pandora on wifi (the wifi drops out). Are there quirks? YOU BET. The iphone rocks at music, driod, (Getting there). I wish google music did smart playlists, but it doesnt.

Yes the iphone games better, takes better photos, and seems to get about 5% better battery life, but its just not enough for me to keep Im afraid. The nexus screen wins it for me.

To each his own for sure, IOS isnt wrong, nor is anyone that prefers it. I just am a tweeker (as well at work), and android just fits better right now.

If you all questions shoot. I am open to discuss

 

[Invincibilizer]

For me the Android experience is 2nd rate & lower class due to the following:

1. Premium feel

Samsung galaxy s ii owners might deny it to try and make themselves feel better but the fact of the matter is that th iPhone has a premium feel to its build, whereas Android phones usually feel like cheap toys.

2. Fragmentation

The iPhone doesn't have this problem. Most anyone with a device in the last 3 years can get an update the very day it comes out. You don't have to wait around like a helpless child hoping your carrier doesn't hold things up further.

Look at Ice Cream Sandwich. It's been out what 5 months already? and only a single device has had it (Galaxy Nexus)

3. Resale value

Android phones have terrible resale value when compared to the iPhone. This is because of the fragmentation issue which makes it so that you have hundreds of different Android phones and only a few people out there that want your particular model (if it's not already outdated, which it probably will be).

With the iPhone there's only a particular model for that year, so the amount of buyers you have is huge compared to a particular android model that will be replaced in a few months.

Look no further than Droid Razr owners to see just how little Android manufacturers care about you. They come out with a particular model... then... a few months later come out with a better version (Droid Razr Maxx) making your purchase obsolete and killing any demand or resale value you had.

4. Pure experience

Apple doesn't let manufacturers put bloat ware on its iPhone. With Android you always have some terrible skin on it (be it sense, touchwiz, etc) that not only slows down the phone, but also makes it impossible for you to get new Android updates anywhere close to on time. It literally takes the manufacturers MONTHS and MONTHS to get their ugly skin with tons of bloatware integrated into the new update and by the time you finally get it your phone is already outdated.

5. Battery life

Battery life on 99% of Android phones is 2nd rate compared to the iPhone. Not much more needs to be said besides this.




There are too many things to go over with just one post so I'll finish this list at a later time, in the meantime... What are the reasons that you feel Android is a lower class experience compare to the iPhone? What made you chose the iPhone over it?

Btw I dont care to hear about excuses for the many problems with Android... So don't bother I won't respond I only want to know from iPhone owners and their insight as to why they chose the iPhone over Android.

Yet you are the user who repeatedly call other people "trolls"

Hypocrisy at its finest!

Android is no way inferior to iOS, you are just refusing to accept the facts.

 

[ChrisTX]

You're a couple years late to the game. It's been done in large numbers. I came from Android. There are plenty of iPhone fanboys stoking arguments on the Droid forums.

Although I was being facetious, I guess it does go both ways. I'm definitely not surprised really.