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iperson21

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Atleast have an open mind...

For me the Android experience is 2nd rate & lower class due to the following:

1. Premium feel

Samsung galaxy s ii owners might deny it to try and make themselves feel better but the fact of the matter is that th iPhone has a premium feel to its build, whereas Android phones usually feel like cheap toys.

2. Fragmentation

The iPhone doesn't have this problem. Most anyone with a device in the last 3 years can get an update the very day it comes out. You don't have to wait around like a helpless child hoping your carrier doesn't hold things up further.

Look at Ice Cream Sandwich. It's been out what 5 months already? and only a single device has had it (Galaxy Nexus)

3. Resale value

Android phones have terrible resale value when compared to the iPhone. This is because of the fragmentation issue which makes it so that you have hundreds of different Android phones and only a few people out there that want your particular model (if it's not already outdated, which it probably will be).

With the iPhone there's only a particular model for that year, so the amount of buyers you have is huge compared to a particular android model that will be replaced in a few months.

Look no further than Droid Razr owners to see just how little Android manufacturers care about you. They come out with a particular model... then... a few months later come out with a better version (Droid Razr Maxx) making your purchase obsolete and killing any demand or resale value you had.

4. Pure experience

Apple doesn't let manufacturers put bloat ware on its iPhone. With Android you always have some terrible skin on it (be it sense, touchwiz, etc) that not only slows down the phone, but also makes it impossible for you to get new Android updates anywhere close to on time. It literally takes the manufacturers MONTHS and MONTHS to get their ugly skin with tons of bloatware integrated into the new update and by the time you finally get it your phone is already outdated.

5. Battery life

Battery life on 99% of Android phones is 2nd rate compared to the iPhone. Not much more needs to be said besides this.




There are too many things to go over with just one post so I'll finish this list at a later time, in the meantime... What are the reasons that you feel Android is a lower class experience compare to the iPhone? What made you chose the iPhone over it?

Btw I dont care to hear about excuses for the many problems with Android... So don't bother I won't respond ;) I only want to know from iPhone owners and their insight as to why they chose the iPhone over Android.

Jeez. Look at the other side of things. (This is coming from an android + ipod touch 4 + macbook air user)

1- Premium Feel- Yes, iPhone does have a "premium" feel, and looks alot sleeker than most Android phones. But the boxy shape makes it feel awkward in your hand and makes it uber-prone to breakage when dropped. Yes, most android phones (including mine) are made out plastic, but there are pros/cons to that.

2. OH NO! I have to wait a full week to get an update. If you can drop $200+ on a phone, I'm sure you'll survive a week to get your update. If you are that desperate, go on an android forum website for your phone and manually root and flash the ROM.

3. Again, you're going to go drop $200, possibly $300 on your phone. Does it really matter on the resale value? You should pick out the phone you like, and not worry about the resale value. Yes, resale value is a nice perk, but an old android or iPhone has a lot of different uses, e.g. dedicated device for recipes or alarm clock.

4. Skins aren't that ugly. Honestly, if you get a different launcher, and a couple different system apps (e.g. a new one for phone calls sms, contacts, and other built in apps), the only remaining part of the skin is the status bar, which if you are desperate, can be changed by rooting/flashing a new rom, where it can be customized the he!! out of, to exactly the way you want it. As for bloatwear, I don't see whats the big deal. If you don't want it, don't use it. If you want to get rid of it so bad and its killing you, just flash another ROM. Yes, it may be difficult to understand at first, but its not anything that someone who can afford to spend $200+ on a phone shouldn't be able to understand.

5. Battery life? Yup. iPhone pretty much wins here. Flash a different ROM on Android, and you have a completely different story. Last week, I was on battery for 14 hours, and still had 84% battery left. But a tip to ANY smartphone users trying to save battery on their phone, turn off the internet when you aren't using your phone!!! yes, you may not get notifications, but if you occasionally check for notifications, you'll be fine and save a crazy amount of battery.

Forgot to mention- Yes, most android phones won't ever see the light of ICS. But if you pay the premium for a high end android phone, (which is basically the same cost as an iPhone 4S), you will get updates. Its the cheap phones that never get updates because as someone in this thread said earlier, there is no point, as most customers of those cheap phones will have never even heard of ICS.
 

mbell1975

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Mar 17, 2012
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Jeez. Look at the other side of things. (This is coming from an android + ipod touch 4 + macbook air user)

1- Premium Feel- Yes, iPhone does have a "premium" feel, and looks alot sleeker than most Android phones. But the boxy shape makes it feel awkward in your hand and makes it uber-prone to breakage when dropped. Yes, most android phones (including mine) are made out plastic, but there are pros/cons to that.

2. OH NO! I have to wait a full week to get an update. If you can drop $200+ on a phone, I'm sure you'll survive a week to get your update. If you are that desperate, go on an android forum website for your phone and manually root and flash the ROM.

3. Again, you're going to go drop $200, possibly $300 on your phone. Does it really matter on the resale value? You should pick out the phone you like, and not worry about the resale value. Yes, resale value is a nice perk, but an old android or iPhone has a lot of different uses, e.g. dedicated device for recipes or alarm clock.

4. Skins aren't that ugly. Honestly, if you get a different launcher, and a couple different system apps (e.g. a new one for phone calls sms, contacts, and other built in apps), the only remaining part of the skin is the status bar, which if you are desperate, can be changed by rooting/flashing a new rom, where it can be customized the he!! out of, to exactly the way you want it. As for bloatwear, I don't see whats the big deal. If you don't want it, don't use it. If you want to get rid of it so bad and its killing you, just flash another ROM. Yes, it may be difficult to understand at first, but its not anything that someone who can afford to spend $200+ on a phone shouldn't be able to understand.

5. Battery life? Yup. iPhone pretty much wins here. Flash a different ROM on Android, and you have a completely different story. Last week, I was on battery for 14 hours, and still had 84% battery left. But a tip to ANY smartphone users trying to save battery on their phone, turn off the internet when you aren't using your phone!!! yes, you may not get notifications, but if you occasionally check for notifications, you'll be fine and save a crazy amount of battery.

You DO realize that most of your solutions were to hack the phone, thus voiding the warranty right? Just the fact that you have to hack the phone to make it useable should send up a red flag from the start. I used to think that way too, no big deal, I can just root and ROM. How sad is it that the POS Android platform has to be exploited and a whole new OS created by hackers just to make it run right. Pathetic.
 

Invincibilizer

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Aug 18, 2011
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You DO realize that most of your solutions were to hack the phone, thus voiding the warranty right? Just the fact that you have to hack the phone to make it useable should send up a red flag from the start. I used to think that way too, no big deal, I can just root and ROM. How sad is it that the POS Android platform has to be exploited and a whole new OS created by hackers just to make it run right. Pathetic.

You do realize that rooting is an option like jailbreaking. Majority of users don't hack their phones and it runs fine.

There's nothing wrong with rooting to gain extra capabilities, by your reasoning, iOS is a POS platform( which it isn't) because one has to jailbreak it for Cydia tweaks....?

My self in particular, I have no interest in rooting although I did perform several jailbreaks to allow for extra functions.
 

mbell1975

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Mar 17, 2012
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You do realize that rooting is an option like jailbreaking. Majority of users don't hack their phones and it runs fine.

LOL, you are new to Android. You have no clue dude. No it doesn't run fine. You will have to root and install a custom ROM on your Android to get decent battery life unless you are getting a Maxx. You will also have to root it if you want to see any new updates to your phone. You will have to root it to remove all the bloatware your carrier loads it up with that also slows it down. Try running an Android phone on the stock ROM, go ahead LOL
 

wpotere

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LOL, you are new to Android. You have no clue dude. No it doesn't run fine. You will have to root and install a custom ROM on your Android to get decent battery life unless you are getting a Maxx. You will also have to root it if you want to see any new updates to your phone. You will have to root it to remove all the bloatware your carrier loads it up with that also slows it down. Try running an Android phone on the stock ROM, go ahead LOL

Gonna drag this into the ditch just like you did the Note thread? I know plenty of Android users that are getting great battery life without rooting. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean others don't. Give it a rest will ya?
 

Invincibilizer

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Aug 18, 2011
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LOL, you are new to Android. You have no clue dude. No it doesn't run fine. You will have to root and install a custom ROM on your Android to get decent battery life unless you are getting a Maxx. You will also have to root it if you want to see any new updates to your phone. You will have to root it to remove all the bloatware your carrier loads it up with that also slows it down. Try running an Android phone on the stock ROM, go ahead LOL

No I'm quite sure of what I am running in to.

No way am I getting a gingerbread phone, Any one of the HTC One phones with ICS pre installed should run super smooth as 5.0.1 did when I first upgraded to that.

Only problem I see is bloatware which I am expecting to be massive but like newstand, I'll put them all in to a folder and forget about them. :)
If 1GB ram isn't enough, I'll most likely find something in play/android market to circumvent the bloatware. Besides ICS and Dual core is quite a combo, bloatware has no chance.

I was always on airplane mode and auto brightness worked well on iOS, always got back home with 30-40%.
 

LSUtigers03

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LOL, you are new to Android. You have no clue dude. No it doesn't run fine. You will have to root and install a custom ROM on your Android to get decent battery life unless you are getting a Maxx. You will also have to root it if you want to see any new updates to your phone. You will have to root it to remove all the bloatware your carrier loads it up with that also slows it down. Try running an Android phone on the stock ROM, go ahead LOL

I'm running a stock Skyrocket and Galaxy Nexus. Both work great and last me all day with no issue. As for bloatware most of the preinstalled iPhone apps are bloat apps and completely worthless. Which is why people stick them in a folder and forget about them because there are App Store apps that are much better and offer more functionality.
 

macUser2007

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The day Google begins selling their own branded hardware with a guarantee of first day updates and unmodified roms, I will buy even if as a backup.

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Then you should go and get a Galaxy Nexus....

I do have it and Android's ICS OS is pretty damned good. I still dislike the notifications bar (too busy and cluttered), iOS's rip off of it is definitely better designed.

I do like the 4.6" screen, which doesn't feel too big anymore and it is much more pleasant to use than a 3.5".

Otherwise, the two OSs are pretty close, IMO.

The iPhone hardware is better made and better designed, but the larger screen on the Galaxy Nexus outweighs the build quality for me. That and the Galaxy Nexus' built-in tethering, as well Google's built-in navigation.

Battery life is as good as the iPhone. The iPhone takes noticeably better photos, IMO.

I also do love the fact that Android has Flash, which means that I can browse sites which are simply unavailable to iOS. Before someone starts bitching about Flash, it works absolutely seamlessly on the Galaxy Nexus.
 

LSUtigers03

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Apr 9, 2008
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Then you should go and get a Galaxy Nexus....

I do have it and Android's ICS OS is pretty damned good. I still dislike the notifications bar (too busy and cluttered), iOS's rip off of it is definitely better designed.

I like Android's notifications more because of the notification bar. I prefer the notification icons to be there than to fill up the lock screen like they do on the iPhone. Also accessing the notification shade from the lock screen is a plus.
 

Rodimus Prime

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Oct 9, 2006
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LOL, you are new to Android. You have no clue dude. No it doesn't run fine. You will have to root and install a custom ROM on your Android to get decent battery life unless you are getting a Maxx. You will also have to root it if you want to see any new updates to your phone. You will have to root it to remove all the bloatware your carrier loads it up with that also slows it down. Try running an Android phone on the stock ROM, go ahead LOL

You know you are spreading FUD and boarder line trolling.
Battery life is fine on most phones. My Atrix 4G often times is making it 18+ hour days and still having juice left. The only thing I have done is rooted it but I am not running any app designed to save battery life.
Also the need to root is very limited. Rooted apps I run, Adblock, wifi tether, titanium back up, root explorer, and busy box.
On that list Adblock and wifi tether a normal person should consider running as the others you can do some real damaged to your phone.

The ROM I us is the stock one. I have not unlock my boot loader
Now I do use a custom launcher which is ADW EX but that does not require root. Android let's you customize how you want things to look.
 
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Invincibilizer

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You know you are spreading FUD and boarder line trolling.
Battery life is fine on most phones. My Atrix 4G often times is making it 18+ hour days and still having juice left. The only thing I have done is rooted it but I am not running any app designed to save battery life.
Also the need to root is very limited. Rooted apps I run, Adblock, wifi tether, titanium back up, root explorer, and busy box.
On that list Adblock and wifi tether a normal person should consider running as the others you can do some real damaged to your phone.

The ROM I us is the stock one. I have not unlock my boot loader
Now I do use a custom launcher which is ADW EX but that does not require root. Android let's you customize how you want things to look.

Had to google it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt

I'm fine though, spent many hours researching Android and Sense. :)

Its the people who actually just believes anything they hear to be true that will be suffering the main blow, battery life is a problem nowadays but I find it difficult to imagine how a person cant get a single days use on ANY android device.
 

mbell1975

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Mar 17, 2012
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Had to google it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt

I'm fine though, spent many hours researching Android and Sense. :)

Its the people who actually just believes anything they hear to be true that will be suffering the main blow, battery life is a problem nowadays but I find it difficult to imagine how a person cant get a single days use on ANY android device.

I experienced it first hand. I had the Hero, then I had to switch to the Evo 4G to get the new OS at the time which was 2.1 I believe. Then I got tired of waiting for the Evo to get an update and having issues with it force closing apps and crashing so I got the Nexus S 4G. That was a worthless phone with wifi and radio issues. It would go into roaming around town in busy areas. Samsung blame Sprint and Sprint blamed Samsung and Google. Meanwhile, we all got stuck with a POS device. So I left Sprint and went to T Mobile to get the HTC Sensation. That phone was garbage but that was T Mobiles fault. Switched back to Sprint and got the Evo 3D. More problems with that. The Friend Stream app that comes preinstalled kept making it crash and it was so unstable I almost rooted it but sold it instead. Then I got the galaxy S2/Epic Touch 4G. Great phone, no issues really aside from some weird keyboard things. However, once again there were no ICS updates to be found 5 months after its release. Decided I had enough of Android. Enough of the force closes and crashes, battery pulls and waiting around for OS updates that never happened. Time for a stable OS, updates the day they are released and a superior variety of apps.
 

ixodes

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For me the Android experience is 2nd rate & lower class due to the following <snip>

Other than stating a few points that have already been made over and over, what is the point of this thread?

Seems a bit self serving. Admittedly it's an ideal platform for those who dwell in a negative environment.

Perhaps there's some deep intrinsic satisfaction for those who have nothing better to fulfill their need to play the critical expert.
 

lilo777

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I experienced it first hand. I had the Hero, then I had to switch to the Evo 4G to get the new OS at the time which was 2.1 I believe. Then I got tired of waiting for the Evo to get an update and having issues with it force closing apps and crashing so I got the Nexus S 4G. That was a worthless phone with wifi and radio issues. It would go into roaming around town in busy areas. Samsung blame Sprint and Sprint blamed Samsung and Google. Meanwhile, we all got stuck with a POS device. So I left Sprint and went to T Mobile to get the HTC Sensation. That phone was garbage but that was T Mobiles fault. Switched back to Sprint and got the Evo 3D. More problems with that. The Friend Stream app that comes preinstalled kept making it crash and it was so unstable I almost rooted it but sold it instead. Then I got the galaxy S2/Epic Touch 4G. Great phone, no issues really aside from some weird keyboard things. However, once again there were no ICS updates to be found 5 months after its release. Decided I had enough of Android. Enough of the force closes and crashes, battery pulls and waiting around for OS updates that never happened. Time for a stable OS, updates the day they are released and a superior variety of apps.

But... you'll never get ICS on iPhone :confused: So, switching to iPhone is not really a solution. Now we learn that iOS applications crash more frequently than their Android counterparts. And BTW, Google has just released ICS 4.0.4 and those who got it are raving about it. Here is quote from one ecstatic Galaxy Nexus owner:

Fastest smoothest Android phone I've ever owned... smooth as butter... no catching up on scroll lists, no lag period. 4.0.4 is an amazing software upgrade. All bugs of 4.0.2 have been fixed. No auto brightness problems, screen rotation fast and smooth. Bluetooth is awesome, wifi is awesome, 3G/4G radio is awesome.

And best of all... I'm getting 40-50% more battery power... I feel like I'm in looove with my Galaxy nexus all over again...
 

ap3604

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Sigh... sometimes it seems like mbell1975, marksman, and a few others are the only sane ones in a sea of android zombies :rolleyes:

As I said in the OP people. I don't care about hearing the excuses for the problems of android all that does is confirm what I already know in how its inferior.

I only want to hear from iPhone users (on this iPhone forum) and their insight into why the iPhone is a much better choice than Android...
 

M5RahuL

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Sigh... sometimes it seems like mbell1975, marksman, and a few others are the only sane ones in a sea of android zombies :rolleyes:

As I said in the OP people. I don't care about hearing the excuses for the problems of android all that does is confirm what I already know in how its inferior.

I only want to hear from iPhone users (on this iPhone forum) and their insight into why the iPhone is a much better choice than Android...

So, you only wanna hear from your fellow iSheep and pretend 'iOS is vastly superior to Android' .. no matter how far from the truth that may be... hmmm.... o..k!! :rolleyes:

Ignorance is truly bliss for your kind!!

Carry on!
 

Bosunsfate

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But... you'll never get ICS on iPhone :confused: So, switching to iPhone is not really a solution. Now we learn that iOS applications crash more frequently than their Android counterparts.

Do you normally read only a headline and never the actual content? Nor do you ever check a reference?

Not only does the source of the core report lead to a dead end, but the content of the article makes a completely unsubstantiated conclusion that the crashes are because Google allows developers to distributed apps directly, whereas Apple curates the OS.

In addition, the article claims to have normalized the data, but to what baseline?

Wow...and it gets even worse. The second article that is referenced by you, claims the iPhone 3G was released in 2007, when it was released in July of 2008.

You do realize the your sources need to be factually correct, right?
 
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mbell1975

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But... you'll never get ICS on iPhone :confused: So, switching to iPhone is not really a solution. Now we learn that iOS applications crash more frequently than their Android counterparts. And BTW, Google has just released ICS 4.0.4 and those who got it are raving about it. Here is quote from one ecstatic Galaxy Nexus owner:

Fastest smoothest Android phone I've ever owned... smooth as butter... no catching up on scroll lists, no lag period. 4.0.4 is an amazing software upgrade. All bugs of 4.0.2 have been fixed. No auto brightness problems, screen rotation fast and smooth. Bluetooth is awesome, wifi is awesome, 3G/4G radio is awesome.

And best of all... I'm getting 40-50% more battery power... I feel like I'm in looove with my Galaxy nexus all over again...

Its ok, I don't want ICS or anything to do with Android any longer. My friend has a Galaxy Nexus. Its nice but I have already been there and done that, over it.
 

DerekRod

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But that was not the context of his response. ;)

You stated :
Which is simply not true.
Rooting an Android phone in many cases is a simple matter of downloading and running a script. Anyone with the ability to follow simple instructions can do it.

Rooting stock ICS on an SGS2 takes a whole whopping 30 seconds.
Hell, the ICS image for the SGS2 was rooted within a couple of hours of its release.

You still can't properly jailbreak a 4S.
Only tethered jailbreaks exist for A5 devices and they're buggy.
Then I stand corrected my only experience was rooting a thunderbolt and it was a nightmare
 

Apollo 13

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But... you'll never get ICS on iPhone :confused: So, switching to iPhone is not really a solution. Now we learn that iOS applications crash more frequently than their Android counterparts. And BTW, Google has just released ICS 4.0.4 and those who got it are raving about it. Here is quote from one ecstatic Galaxy Nexus owner:

Fastest smoothest Android phone I've ever owned... smooth as butter... no catching up on scroll lists, no lag period. 4.0.4 is an amazing software upgrade. All bugs of 4.0.2 have been fixed. No auto brightness problems, screen rotation fast and smooth. Bluetooth is awesome, wifi is awesome, 3G/4G radio is awesome.

And best of all... I'm getting 40-50% more battery power... I feel like I'm in looove with my Galaxy nexus all over again...

Dude don't believe just one post you read. I have ics on my Asus Transformer and I see lag and have problems. When I install certain apps my tablet reboots. When I mess around with certain live wall papers it lags tablet. If I turn on full flash support makes tablet laggy. Good thing I can turn it off. It's still a great tablet but trust me not everyone is raving. I do want to try a Galxy Nexus...the phone looks sexy.
 

lilo777

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Dude don't believe just one post you read. I have ics on my Asus Transformer and I see lag and have problems. When I install certain apps my tablet reboots. When I mess around with certain live wall papers it lags tablet. If I turn on full flash support makes tablet laggy. Good thing I can turn it off. It's still a great tablet but trust me not everyone is raving. I do want to try a Galxy Nexus...the phone looks sexy.

I do not need to trust this guy. I have Galaxy Nexus myself (GSM version) and I know for a fact that it's fast. I just wanted to point out to someone else's opinion :p

Sure, live wallpapers can cause delays (I do not use them), some applications may crash (same is true for iOS) and flash might be laggy (obviously, not on iOS). But iOS does not have those lags because it does not have any of these features. That's not really an advantage, is it?
 

phamduc.minhanh

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I just feel that the iPhone (no matter what generation) just looks luxurious and classy, while a majority of Android phones look like some cheap rip-offs. One example is Samsung Galaxy II. It has a great performance, but the design just does not cut it for me. Well, maybe it's because of my taste and preference.

I find that the iPhone has far more accessories that its Android counterparts: a prodigious collection of cases, pouches, skins and external battery sets to begin with.

Last, Apple's after-sale services like warranty and repair are far more superior than those of Android manufacturers, in my humble opinion.
 

0m3ga

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I do not need to trust this guy. I have Galaxy Nexus myself (GSM version) and I know for a fact that it's fast. I just wanted to point out to someone else's opinion :p

Sure, live wallpapers can cause delays (I do not use them), some applications may crash (same is true for iOS) and flash might be laggy (obviously, not on iOS). But iOS does not have those lags because it does not have any of these features. That's not really an advantage, is it?

I can also confirm that ICS 4.0.4 on the Touchpad is silky smooth. Live wallpapers dont bother it one bit. Flash Player 11 runs smooth too. And I have only had an app crash once since installing ics. ICS is a good OS, assuming you have the hardware to run it. (Same can be said for iOS 5.0 though.) Manufacturer UI's laid on top of ICS is a different story. That can be a craptastic experience.
 

chakraj

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I have read this thread and find the arguments a bit complex at times.
Let me see if I can extrapolate this into language we can all understand.

"Nanny, Nanny, Boo, Boo, My phone is better than yours!"

I think that covers most posts up to this point.

Please forgive me if your post wasn't meant to sound like that, no offense meant for you.
 
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