Native Blu-ray ripping for OS X is finally here!

[BrittQ]

The GGC-H20L is an internal drive but, that's the one mounted in the enclosure in the pic I posted earlier in the thread. The GGW also mentioned is the same drive but with BD Write capability. These drives are listed several times in this thread and confirmed compatible with OSX for ripping

Just be aware that you may have problems using that external drive as a replacement for a PS3 for disc playback. Also be aware that ripping the discs and playing them back under Plex negates almost all of those problems

Ok. Thanks.

I plan on ripping and Plexing.

 

[macphanatic]

After following this thread for a while, i decided to give this a try. I got the LG HL-DT-ST BDDVDRW CH08LS10 from Newegg. I installed it in my Mac Pro, connected to one of the two sata connections on the motherboard. I used a double right angle sata cable as the connection on the motherboard is fairly cramped. It took about 30 minutes to take out the various components to access the sata ports. It was worth it though, as there was a lot of dust build up behind the fan housing and on the cpu coolers. I knew about taking off the face plate, so I didn't have that issue.

I've successfully ripped Oceans Twelve and Twilight. The one issue is that makemkv doesn't seem to retain chapter marks after ripping or handbrake doesn't recognize them. Any way to get chapter marks to work?

 

[NOD]

After following this thread for a while, i decided to give this a try. I got the LG HL-DT-ST BDDVDRW CH08LS10 from Newegg. I installed it in my Mac Pro, connected to one of the two sata connections on the motherboard. I used a double right angle sata cable as the connection on the motherboard is fairly cramped. It took about 30 minutes to take out the various components to access the sata ports. It was worth it though, as there was a lot of dust build up behind the fan housing and on the cpu coolers. I knew about taking off the face plate, so I didn't have that issue.

I've successfully ripped Oceans Twelve and Twilight. The one issue is that makemkv doesn't seem to retain chapter marks after ripping or handbrake doesn't recognize them. Any way to get chapter marks to work?

That's odd. Chapters have worked fine for me, as I've transcoded my archived discs to ATV-compatible m4v's, and using MetaX to tag prior to importing into itunes, and the chapters are corresponding quite well. And MakeMKV certainly makes a point of delineating exactly how many chapters each subset has. Do you mean that the TITLES of the chapters aren't retained?

As for the rest of your post -- glad to see your installation went well. I realize I'm probably King Idiot on the issue of forgetting the faceplate.

My main hope in the future is that a revision comes down the pike for BD+ discs.

 

[davwin]

My main hope in the future is that a revision comes down the pike for BD+ discs.

Me too - I attempted my first BD+ title this weekend and as expected it would not rip in MakeMKV. I was still able to use AnyDVD HD under windows but this then requires eac3to and mergeMKV and takes alot more time as I'm sure you guys know. I hope they update MakeMKV to better support HD-DVD's and BD+ discs soon.

 

[kevinbal]

Me too - I attempted my first BD+ title this weekend and as expected it would not rip in MakeMKV. I was still able to use AnyDVD HD under windows but this then requires eac3to and mergeMKV and takes alot more time as I'm sure you guys know. I hope they update MakeMKV to better support HD-DVD's and BD+ discs soon.

I ran into the same problem this weekend with a BD+ disc as well. Unfortunately, I don't have the luxury of having AnyDVD HD to use since I can't justify spending that much money for a program that'll be spot use at best - I've always just stayed OS X-side with Freemount, DVD2ONE X and Handbrake for all my AppleTV needs

BD+ support can't come soon enough!

 

[northy124]

I hope they update MakeMKV to better support BD+ discs soon.

They should do as this software is going to be pay software in the future apparently.

HD DVD on the other hand, the author has made it clear he isn't going to support a dead format.

 

[DoFoT9]

They should do as this software is going to be pay software in the future apparently.

lame....

 

[northy124]

lame....

You didn't seriously think he would create this for the good of OS X (I know Wincrap as well but hey) users and free did you

Tbh in my opinion at it's current stage I would not pay for it (and most likely never will).

 

[DoFoT9]

You didn't seriously think he would create this for the good of OS X (I know Wincrap as well but hey) users and free did you

i did actually, just look at handbrake and programs like that! SO much better then this app but still free..

Tbh in my opinion at it's current stage I would not pay for it (and most likely never will).

nope neither, i will have to get the last revision before it becomes paid though, they will be closely linked usability wise

 

[brentsg]

Blu-ray copy protection isn't static in nature so there's no way someone's going to release and maintain a free version for everyone to use. It would be a full time job and then some.

AndDVD HD is constantly getting updates and it still has to "call home" to download disk-specific data to decrypt the latest titles.

 

[Spikeanator6982]

I guess I am not against paying for it as long as it meets two things that i can think of atm

1. It better work simply. Easy to install and rip and encode and play.

2. it better be a reasonable price.

really, if i could rip any blu-ray on the market within, a month old (to give time for any updates needed for changes in copyright protection) it really would be worth quite a bit, again within reason. Wouldn't it? Ya, its stupid to have to pay to have a movie on a hd when u bought it on a disk. But i dont see that as being the program makers fault and he would be helping us.

 

[Michael CM1]

I guess I am not against paying for it as long as it meets two things that i can think of atm

1. It better work simply. Easy to install and rip and encode and play.

2. it better be a reasonable price.

really, if i could rip any blu-ray on the market within, a month old (to give time for any updates needed for changes in copyright protection) it really would be worth quite a bit, again within reason. Wouldn't it? Ya, its stupid to have to pay to have a movie on a hd when u bought it on a disk. But i dont see that as being the program makers fault and he would be helping us.

Amen. All I want to do is have my stuff available on my computer and my iPhone. I'm not going to copy this stuff for friends because I'm not a thief. The more studios fight this, the more it pisses us off and turns more people into actual pirates who will copy it and then distribute.

 

[themoonisdown09]

Amen. All I want to do is have my stuff available on my computer and my iPhone. I'm not going to copy this stuff for friends because I'm not a thief. The more studios fight this, the more it pisses us off and turns more people into actual pirates who will copy it and then distribute.

Same here. I've been mad that so far, all the Blu Rays I've bought can't be put on my iMac or iPhone. I watch movies all the time on my iPhone, so this is a big deal to me.

 

[macphanatic]

That's odd. Chapters have worked fine for me, as I've transcoded my archived discs to ATV-compatible m4v's, and using MetaX to tag prior to importing into itunes, and the chapters are corresponding quite well. And MakeMKV certainly makes a point of delineating exactly how many chapters each subset has. Do you mean that the TITLES of the chapters aren't retained?

As for the rest of your post -- glad to see your installation went well. I realize I'm probably King Idiot on the issue of forgetting the faceplate.

My main hope in the future is that a revision comes down the pike for BD+ discs.

MakeMKV shows the number of chapters, but handbrake shows the file as only 1 chapter. I'm hoping I can figure this out. Not having chapter markers is a pain.

 

[Cave Man]

I don't believe Handbrake has support for chapter markers from Blu-ray rips.

 

[rayward]

Same here. I've been mad that so far, all the Blu Rays I've bought can't be put on my iMac or iPhone. I watch movies all the time on my iPhone, so this is a big deal to me.

Ditto. I haven't bought many Blu Ray movies for exactly this reason - I can watch them on one TV at home only. I'll buy more Blu Rays as a result of this, especially as I'll have the 1080p source material so if Apple ever gets around to upgrading the ATV, I can upgrade my ripped copy.

I also need to get a big external HDD as I'll need two version of each movie - one in 720p for Apple TV and one in iPhone resolution.

 

[nws0291]

I don't believe Handbrake has support for chapter markers from Blu-ray rips.

Yeah i was a little bummed about this. I compiled the latest version and played around with compression on movies that I don't really care for the best quality. It can't keep the chapters which I really like for Plex. I am keeping everything uncompressed at the moment.

 

[donster28]

Yeah i was a little bummed about this. I compiled the latest version and played around with compression on movies that I don't really care for the best quality. It can't keep the chapters which I really like for Plex. I am keeping everything uncompressed at the moment.

uhmm...yes it does!!! and my final hd-dvd and blu-ray rips from handbrake definitelty have chapter markers.

i convert mine to mkv's with chapter markers first (movie only) then to 720p appletv compatible m4p via handbrake.

i use my iphone to control my appletv via the remote app and i like the fact that i am able to see a list of chapters using it as opposed to using the stock apple tv remote.

 

[donster28]

I don't believe Handbrake has support for chapter markers from Blu-ray rips.

yes it does! my bluray and hddvd converts from handbrake all have chapter markers that i can skip through.

 

[Cave Man]

yes it does! my bluray and hddvd converts from handbrake all have chapter markers that i can skip through.

1. What app are you using for ripping your Blu-rays?
2. What version of Handbrake are you using?
3. Are there particular settings for each app that you set?

 

[nws0291]

uhmm...yes it does!!! and my final hd-dvd and blu-ray rips from handbrake definitelty have chapter markers.

i convert mine to mkv's with chapter markers first (movie only) then to 720p appletv compatible m4p via handbrake.

i use my iphone to control my appletv via the remote app and i like the fact that i am able to see a list of chapters using it as opposed to using the stock apple tv remote.

Could you share what build of handbrake you use? Do you do the original rip from MakeMKV?

I rip the main title only as well and the chapters work fine as expected. When i open the MKV in handbrake there is nothing listed besides 1 chapter in the settings. I am new to handbrake encoding so I might be missing something.

 

[donster28]

1. What app are you using for ripping your Blu-rays?
2. What version of Handbrake are you using?
3. Are there particular settings for each app that you set?

1. I use HD-DVD Bluray Stream Extractor (Windows Only) to rip my discs to MKV. You can select chapters to be extracted as TXT along with the video and audio. Then I merge the files with MKVMERGE (Also under Windows unfortunately). Here you can point to the extracted chapter TXT file to be included. And wala!!! You have an MKV with chapters you can convert to AppleTV in Leopard. Unfortunately, I haven't gotten around including subtitles which I don't really care for and plus the hard coded subtitles still show up.

2. Handbrake svn2592

3. See #1 above. If you need a step by step, I can provide one later. But just to let you know, this has been working for me so far with discs that can't be done with MAKEMKV. I also get to convert DTS to AC3. Video and audio quality in 720p AC3 is awesome...saves me hd space too.

 

[xxBURT0Nxx]

1. I use HD-DVD Bluray Stream Extractor (Windows Only) to rip my discs to MKV. You can select chapters to be extracted as TXT along with the video and audio. Then I merge the files with MKVMERGE (Also under Windows unfortunately). Here you can point to the extracted chapter TXT file to be included. And wala!!! You have an MKV with chapters you can convert to AppleTV in Leopard. Unfortunately, I haven't gotten around including subtitles which I don't really care for and plus the hard coded subtitles still show up.

2. Handbrake svn2592

3. See #1 above. If you need a step by step, I can provide one later. But just to let you know, this has been working for me so far with discs that can't be done with MAKEMKV. I also get to convert DTS to AC3. Video and audio quality in 720p AC3 is awesome...saves me hd space too.

So are you ripping them from BD to an external hdd using Stream Extractor? Then when they are on the HDD, how do you get OSX to see them. When I tried to plug in my external that is formatted for windows, it wouldn't read any files and said I would need to reformat it or partition it for OSX. I guess I'm just wondering how you use the file back and forth between windows and osx. And are you using vista or 7?

Thanks.

 

[donster28]

So are you ripping them from BD to an external hdd using Stream Extractor? Then when they are on the HDD, how do you get OSX to see them. When I tried to plug in my external that is formatted for windows, it wouldn't read any files and said I would need to reformat it or partition it for OSX. I guess I'm just wondering how you use the file back and forth between windows and osx. And are you using vista or 7?

Thanks.

Yes I use an external drive to rip in Windows. The external drive I use is formatted in NTFS, therefore I can write to it when I'm in Windows (bootcamp) and I'm able to read it in Leopard-but not write to it-no need to reformat, OSX reads it fine. Then point Handbrake to save the MP4 output to your osx drive (internal or external)-not to the external drive you just used in Windows.

I found this to be the best solution to the incompatibility.

 

[jmpg]

retaining chapters

I've had mixed results using MakeMKV to rip a BD and getting the chapters to show up in HB. Sometime the chapters are there and sometimes they aren't. However, you can create your own chapter XML file and mux it back into the MKV using MKVMerge GUI (OSX). It works well, but I sometime don't do it out of laziness. Plus, I watch everything on AppleTV, which breaks up the movie for you anyway. I do like seeing the chapter names though.