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Native Blu-ray ripping for OS X is finally here!

donster28 said:
Yes I use an external drive to rip in Windows. The external drive I use is formatted in NTFS, therefore I can write to it when I'm in Windows (bootcamp) and I'm able to read it in Leopard-but not write to it-no need to reformat, OSX reads it fine. Then point Handbrake to save the MP4 output to your osx drive (internal or external)-not to the external drive you just used in Windows.

I found this to be the best solution to the incompatibility.
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ahh, so you use 2 different externals? You rip inside windows to one external, then read the file inside osx, and rerip to another external using handbreak?

The HDD you rip to inside of windows is formatted as NTFS, what is the HDD for the mac formatted as? I assume you are not using FAT32 due to file restrictions right?

Thanks for all your help.
 
Retaining chapters from Bluray is easy if you can use Windows (I use VMWare). I use AnyDVD HD to rip the disc, and eac3to to extract the video, audio, chapters, and subtitles. Use tsmuxer to join the audio and video, then run through Handbrake in OSX. Finally, use subler to attach the chapter file to the M4V and tag/import to iTunes.

http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9258 (my workflow, somewhat dated)
 
xxBURT0Nxx said:
ahh, so you use 2 different externals? You rip inside windows to one external, then read the file inside osx, and rerip to another external using handbreak?

The HDD you rip to inside of windows is formatted as NTFS, what is the HDD for the mac formatted as? I assume you are not using FAT32 due to file restrictions right?

Thanks for all your help.
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No probs. The format on the mac side is always OSX JOURNALED..this is the drive where Leopard resides.
 
NightStorm said:
Retaining chapters from Bluray is easy if you can use Windows (I use VMWare). I use AnyDVD HD to rip the disc, and eac3to to extract the video, audio, chapters, and subtitles. Use tsmuxer to join the audio and video, then run through Handbrake in OSX. Finally, use subler to attach the chapter file to the M4V and tag/import to iTunes.

http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9258 (my workflow, somewhat dated)
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I use to do that too but now I'm only using 2 programs in windows to rip the blu-rays and HD-DVDs, both with easy to operate GUIs.

Of course AnyDVD should be running in the background but I extract direct from the discs without ripping the with AnyDVD first.-this works 97% of the time meaning, some HD-DVD discs will have to be ripped with AnyDVD first before extracting to MKV.

1. Bluray/HD-DVD Stream Extractor - Windows - about 15 mins
2. MKVMerge - Windows - about 15 mins

Then finally
3. Handbrake - OSX - about 4-8 hours (I only have a MBP Core2Duo - half the time in quad cores.)
 
donster28 said:
I use to do that too but now I'm only using 2 programs in windows to rip the blu-rays and HD-DVDs, both with easy to operate GUIs.

Of course AnyDVD should be running in the background but I extract direct from the discs without ripping the with AnyDVD first.-this works 97% of the time meaning, some HD-DVD discs will have to be ripped with AnyDVD first before extracting to MKV.

1. Bluray/HD-DVD Stream Extractor - Windows - about 15 mins
2. MKVMerge - Windows - about 15 mins

Then finally
3. Handbrake - OSX - about 4-8 hours (I only have a MBP Core2Duo - half the time in quad cores.)
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Interesting... I've been meaning to look into using MKV as an intermediary step now that Handbrake has better support for some of the extras, but hadn't gotten around to it yet. I'm going to try and use eac3to (and AnyDVD HD real-time decryption) to do it as I'm already familiar with its syntax... if that doesn't work, I'll give the programs you mentioned a shot.
 
NightStorm said:
Interesting... I've been meaning to look into using MKV as an intermediary step now that Handbrake has better support for some of the extras, but hadn't gotten around to it yet. I'll give those programs a shot next time I have a Bluray/HDDVD to encode.
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Glad I can help.

Once I get the time in the next couple of days, I will post a step-by-step complete with screen shots. I can never empahsize how easy it is.

I'm still a noob and I've been researching about this almost everyday after I get home from work, and I am pretty happy with what I have gathered so far.

I only wish MAKEMKV is more robust and compatible but as of this time, it's still can't work alone...Windows is here to bug us a little bit more unfortunately.

I have so far successfully converted half of my HD-DVD's and a some BLU-RAYs and I can never be more happy with the results. The movies look stunning even on my HD projector at 120 inches big. I have them saved on a separate iTunes playlist on an external hard drive for expandability. They look amazingly organized in my AppleTV, coverflow covers and categories. And yeah, AppleTV labels them as 'HD' automatically...it's amazing.
 
donster28 said:
Glad I can help.

Once I get the time in the next couple of days, I will post a step-by-step complete with screen shots. I can never empahsize how easy it is.

I'm still a noob and I've been researching about this almost everyday after I get home from work, and I am pretty happy with what I have gathered so far.

I only wish MAKEMKV is more robust and compatible but as of this time, it's still can't work alone...Windows is here to bug us a little bit more unfortunately.

I have so far successfully converted half of my HD-DVD's and a some BLU-RAYs and I can never be more happy with the results. The movies look stunning even on my HD projector at 120 inches big. I have them saved on a separate iTunes playlist on an external hard drive for expandability. They look amazingly organized in my AppleTV, coverflow covers and categories. And yeah, AppleTV labels them as 'HD' automatically...it's amazing.
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So after looking into it MakeMKV does the chapters in a different way that isn't compatible with handbrake. THats why it won't work. I read up a way one guy was using to encode the video with handbrake and then inject the encoded video into the original MKV container and then the chapters work fine. I will have to try it later. I play all my rips through Plex and have a 2.7TB RAID5 array with a 3WARE controller for a stable storage.
 
nws0291 said:
So after looking into it MakeMKV does the chapters in a different way that isn't compatible with handbrake. THats why it won't work. I read up a way one guy was using to encode the video with handbrake and then inject the encoded video into the original MKV container and then the chapters work fine. I will have to try it later. I play all my rips through Plex and have a 2.7TB RAID5 array with a 3WARE controller for a stable storage.
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Ahhh...nice find. Honestly, I have not been using MAKEMKV lately because of lots of incompatiblities with some blu-rays and all HD-DVDs...
 
I have browsed through a number of thread similar to this but I am completely new to ripping blu-rays and plex. Is there a step by step thread somewhere that anyone is aware of to get me started that will clue me in to hardware/software necessities and setup for audio/video output for programs like handbrake to most efficiently allow me to rip and view blu-rays on a 1080p LCD TV?

Thanks!!
 
apprehendingeve said:
I have browsed through a number of thread similar to this but I am completely new to ripping blu-rays and plex. Is there a step by step thread somewhere that anyone is aware of to get me started that will clue me in to hardware/software necessities and setup for audio/video output for programs like handbrake to most efficiently allow me to rip and view blu-rays on a 1080p LCD TV?

Thanks!!
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The Handbrake step isn't necessary at all if you aren't playing the files on an AppleTV or if your mac is robust enough to play the mkv files in Plex with few dropped frames.

What model mac do you have?
 
NOD said:
The Handbrake step isn't necessary at all if you aren't playing the files on an AppleTV or if your mac is robust enough to play the mkv files in Plex with few dropped frames.

What model mac do you have?
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This was another post I just put up..

apprehendingeve said:
I was wondering if anyone could help me out with a general question. I have been mroogling for a while now reading about home theater set ups. I was considering getting a mac mini or a hackintosh but don't have a ton of money being a college student and all, and I have to upgrade my Powerbook G4 that has served me well for over 4 years. I am trying to set up something that can rip blu-rays, stream shows, run plex, etc. to a 37 inch 1080p LCD TV.

- My first question is will the new 15" MBP be able to handle all this and serve as my personal computer?
- Second, would it be worth upgrading from the 2.8GHz processor to the 3.06GHz for an additional $270 knowing that I am going to be ripping and playing large files?
- Third, would a SSD upgrade improve speed or performance of ripping over the ATA@7200rpm?

I have had a lot of experience ripping DVDs but have not yet attempted to rip a blu-ray.. I don't think my current computer could handle it. Sorry if these questions have been posted already I have searched MRF and have not concluded anything so I thought I would post a question for the first time on here.

Thanks!!
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so I guess the answer to your question is 15"MBP but I am unsure as to what GHz I am going to go with.

Also if I get an external blu-ray drive does it need to be able to burn or just read in order for me to rip it to my computer? Will it speed the ripping process if the drive burns 8x?
 
apprehendingeve said:
This was another post I just put up..



so I guess the answer to your question is 15"MBP but I am unsure as to what GHz I am going to go with.

Also if I get an external blu-ray drive does it need to be able to burn or just read in order for me to rip it to my computer? Will it speed the ripping process if the drive burns 8x?
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You should be fine w/ any current-gen MBP for Plex BR playback.

As for the external drive -- it just needs to be able to write SOMETHING (be it CD-R's, DVD-R's, or BD's) and be able to read BR's in order to work. The speed of the drive is likely not going to make a big difference.
 
NOD said:
You should be fine w/ any current-gen MBP for Plex BR playback.

As for the external drive -- it just needs to be able to write SOMETHING (be it CD-R's, DVD-R's, or BD's) and be able to read BR's in order to work. The speed of the drive is likely not going to make a big difference.
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anything that is a Core2Duo over 2GHz will be able to play it.. my CoreDuo MBP can play internet BR rips perfectly fine, with a 40mbps rip i think it would struggle a bit though..
 
donster28 said:
Ahhh...nice find. Honestly, I have not been using MAKEMKV lately because of lots of incompatiblities with some blu-rays and all HD-DVDs...
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Yeah MakeMKV apparently will not be updated anymore for HD DVDs only BD. The program i was talking about earlier is called MKVtoolnix http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/index.html

I will try to inject the encoded handbrake file into the original MKV file later after handbrake finishes. Glad I have a core i7 machine or else it would take forever.
 
donster28 said:
I use to do that too but now I'm only using 2 programs in windows to rip the blu-rays and HD-DVDs, both with easy to operate GUIs.

Of course AnyDVD should be running in the background but I extract direct from the discs without ripping the with AnyDVD first.-this works 97% of the time meaning, some HD-DVD discs will have to be ripped with AnyDVD first before extracting to MKV.

1. Bluray/HD-DVD Stream Extractor - Windows - about 15 mins
2. MKVMerge - Windows - about 15 mins

Then finally
3. Handbrake - OSX - about 4-8 hours (I only have a MBP Core2Duo - half the time in quad cores.)
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okay so I got Bluray/HDDVD Stream extractor, but I can't seem to find a download link for MKVMerge. When I google it, the only thing I can find is MKVToolnix.

Is this the same thing you use?
 
donster28 said:
I believe it's not. Unfortunately, I've forgotten the exact name or link to the program. I'll post it here as soon as I get home tonight.
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You said MKVMerge yes? it is MKVToolnix but it has been updated at last and now has MKVToolnix as the name in OS X.
 
nws0291 said:
So after looking into it MakeMKV does the chapters in a different way that isn't compatible with handbrake. THats why it won't work. I read up a way one guy was using to encode the video with handbrake and then inject the encoded video into the original MKV container and then the chapters work fine. I will have to try it later. I play all my rips through Plex and have a 2.7TB RAID5 array with a 3WARE controller for a stable storage.
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Depends what version of handbrake you're using. If you're on .93 then you won't get chapters. SVN 2592 supports chapters from makemkv http://handbrake.fr/?article=snapshot
 
So just catching up on this thread, and just wondering.. why all the excitement about this program? Is it because it's native OSX?

I have 50+ BD titles ripped and encoded with AnyDVD-HD + Handbrake, been doing this for almost a year now.. AnyDVD handles everything beautifully, have yet to encounter a title it can't handle. Yes, I have to boot up my Parallels VM.

The fact that MakeMKV can't handle BD+ makes it useless to me - probably about 25% of my titles are BD+. I am glad that we're starting to see OSX options in this space, but this program still has ways to go before I leave AnyDVD for it..
 
hitekalex said:
So just catching up on this thread, and just wondering.. why all the excitement about this program? Is it because it's native OSX?

I have 50+ BD titles ripped and encoded with AnyDVD-HD + Handbrake, been doing this for almost a year now.. AnyDVD handles everything beautifully, have yet to encounter a title it can't handle. Yes, I have to boot up my Parallels VM.

The fact that MakeMKV can't handle BD+ makes it useless to me - probably about 25% of my titles are BD+. I am glad that we're starting to see OSX options in this space, but this program still has ways to go before I leave AnyDVD for it..
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nailed it on the head. ;)

but you probably will probably see much better apps for bluray ripping when there is native support for bluray inside osx.
 
xxBURT0Nxx said:
nailed it on the head. ;)

but you probably will probably see much better apps for bluray ripping when there is native support for bluray inside osx.
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You don't really need native OSX support for BD movie playback to do what we are trying to do here.. which is ripping / encoding. It already has all the support it needs for raw access to BD drives. Native BD movie playback is a different problem to solve..
 
Cave Man said:
That and it allows chapter markers with Handbrake. AnyDVD HD doesn't. Hopefully, the BD+ will get done and it will be reasonably priced.
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If you really wanted chapter markers using AnyDVD HD, you could run eac3to on the .m2ts file to pull the chapter info out to a text file, and then use Subler to attach it to the Handbrake encode output file (this is basically my workflow for most Bluray discs).
 
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