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The X is a success in terms of customer feedback and convincing enthusiast users to pay more for their phones. I just don't think it has really driven mass interest yet. The iPhone 5, 5s, 6 and 7 launches were all pretty exciting for the mass customer. The X hasn't done that so far; maybe it was never intended to be that.
Most of my friends don't have one either but that's due to them being on a non S upgrade cycle ... Also none of them are millionaires otherwise it might be different lol.
 
I've attended some work events with some very well-off people in recent weeks and seen a good amount of my friends. Almost all are iPhone users

1) None of my close friends own an iPhone X
2) At these work events, less than 10% of customers have an iPhone X

Many of these people would have bought the latest iPhone very quickly a few years ago. One of my best friends (a millionaire in his 30s) is still rocking a 6S.

The iPhone X is an excellent product (I'm actually considering buying a 256G version to replace my 8+); however, fewer "normal" customers are interested in it than prior phones. I don't think that is controversial at all, and all of the survey data supports this.

How can Apple fix that this year?
Ignore the folks that say you haven't backed up your statements! Why? Because your statements don't need backing up, they are personal observations and are as valid as anybody else's personal statements are. The folks who try and negate personal observations are those that are struggling to maintain their fanboi optimism about the newest toy from  and go to any lengths to negate any negativism. Just a personal observation.
 
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The folks who try and negate personal observations are those that are struggling to maintain their fanboi optimism about the newest toy from  and go to any lengths to negate any negativism. Just a personal observation.

Having a personal opinion is fine but when you stoop to the level of calling people fanboi you loose all credibility yourself..

Some go to great lengths to claim it's a failure and some go to great lengths to claim it's a success.. According to Apple its a success so I'll take their verifiable numbers any day of the week over a random internet postings from anonymous user(s)..

I have seen a few others with X but I am in the US. In some parts of the world the X is very, very expensive so that may have something to do it as well...
 
$1000 Phone that does the same as cheaper iPhone 7, "Nearly 6 months in, the iPhone X isn't that successful".
There's your answer.
 
$1000 Phone that does the same as cheaper iPhone 7, "Nearly 6 months in, the iPhone X isn't that successful".
There's your answer.

$800 iPhone 8 Plus does the same thing as cheaper iPhone 6S Plus "Nearly 3 years in, the iPhone 8 Plus really isn't that successful".

There is a different answer....
 
$800 iPhone 8 Plus does the same thing as cheaper iPhone 6S Plus "Nearly 3 years in, the iPhone 8 Plus really isn't that successful".

There is a different answer....
I didn't mention the 8 plus at all, I had the care to mention a cheaper 1 year product for that reason since most users don't need to update every year especially with the high price of the X...
 
Ignore the folks that say you haven't backed up your statements! Why? Because your statements don't need backing up, they are personal observations and are as valid as anybody else's personal statements are. The folks who try and negate personal observations are those that are struggling to maintain their fanboi optimism about the newest toy from  and go to any lengths to negate any negativism. Just a personal observation.

It's my personal observation that the earth is flat :)
 
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I've attended some work events with some very well-off people in recent weeks and seen a good amount of my friends. Almost all are iPhone users

1) None of my close friends own an iPhone X
2) At these work events, less than 10% of customers have an iPhone X

Many of these people would have bought the latest iPhone very quickly a few years ago. One of my best friends (a millionaire in his 30s) is still rocking a 6S.

The iPhone X is an excellent product (I'm actually considering buying a 256G version to replace my 8+); however, fewer "normal" customers are interested in it than prior phones. I don't think that is controversial at all, and all of the survey data supports this.

How can Apple fix that this year?

For me, generally an early adopter of tech and lover of gadgets etc the novelty and must have factor has simply worn off. I remember being the only guy at work that had the iphone 3g, not a blackberry. Had the iphone 4, 5 and 6 plus all within a month of release....now the 7 didn't seem like much of an upgrade over the 6, the 8 doesn't seem like much of an upgrade over the 7 and the X is too expensive and doesn't offer me anything I NEED. I switched a year and half a go to the SE and I'm perfectly content.
 
the X is a premium product in a mature market.
Exactly. The X is always going to be niche when it has cheaper competition especially within the same brand. You’ve really got to be into it to want to pay extra for an iPhone that does pretty much the same as other iPhones IMO.

Apple are no different to any other manufacturer where they are trying to make a smartphone exciting and it’s a tall task in such a mature market.
 
I dont know how well its selling I just know I see alot of people with them where I live in NYC. They are all over.
 
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I dont know how well its selling I just know I see alot of people with them where I live in NYC. They are all over.
Apple says it's the best selling phone since it's release so I'll take their verifiable numbers over anonymous users.. When I was getting mine at the AT&T sore there were 3 others getting an X as well. A presumable husband and wife a few tables over and another person at the table next to me.. How many have they sold? No clue but it appears to be selling well enough..
 
Apple says it's the best selling phone since it's release so I'll take their verifiable numbers over anonymous users.. When I was getting mine at the AT&T sore there were 3 others getting an X as well. A presumable husband and wife a few tables over and another person at the table next to me.. How many have they sold? No clue but it appears to be selling well enough..
I’ve seen a few sources suggesting over 40% of the global sales of the X were in the United States. If true then the US is the most important market for that model and it also means Apple made a wise choice releasing more than one type of iPhone. They just need to work on their manufacturing costs now to try and crack the rest of the world in terms of making it a mainstream iPhone. I’ve seen two since launch and that’s strange considering the iPhone is perhaps the most popular mobile brand in my part of Europe.
 
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Unlike in previous cycles, there's 3 models to choose from this time around - the expensive showcase, the established flagship and the larger variant of the established flagship. There are valid reasons to opt for the 8 or 8+ instead of the X, even outside the price.

The last concrete(ish) figure we heard was 29 million, which was lower than consensus expectations of 32-35 million, but not bad for a device which is priced extremely uncompetitively. I do think this will spur Apple to drop the price of the XI, however, with the XI+ taking the 999 price point and the XI starting at between 849 and 899.
 
Unlike in previous cycles, there's 3 models to choose from this time around - the expensive showcase, the established flagship and the larger variant of the established flagship. There are valid reasons to opt for the 8 or 8+ instead of the X, even outside the price.

The last concrete(ish) figure we heard was 29 million, which was lower than consensus expectations of 32-35 million, but not bad for a device which is priced extremely uncompetitively. I do think this will spur Apple to drop the price of the XI, however, with the XI+ taking the 999 price point and the XI starting at between 849 and 899.

I've thought all along the X was overpriced by about $100 but that didn't;t stop me from getting it. In Europe they are paying quite a bot more for it and if I were faced with their prices, I probably would have passed on it as well and kept my 8...

I have doubts as to if Apple will drop the prices for the 2018's though. I would not be surprised if Apple kept the same price for the next X, the X Plus was $100-$130 more and the LCD version checked in at somewhere around $750-$800
 
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I’ve seen a few sources suggesting over 40% of the global sales of the X were in the United States. If true then the US is the most important market for that model and it also means Apple made a wise choice releasing more than one type of iPhone. They just need to work on their manufacturing costs now to try and crack the rest of the world in terms of making it a mainstream iPhone. I’ve seen two since launch and that’s strange considering the iPhone is perhaps the most popular mobile brand in my part of Europe.
this is the thing you have to judge whats successful by where it's sold everywhere not just in UK for example. Due to price being the same in dollars i'm sure has put some off and it's hard to know what sales are like in the UK. Just like if we judge the pixel in the UK it's not sold at all but thats more due to the fact only EE sell it here on contract
 
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For awhile I didn't see many iPhone X's in the wild and I live in NYC with several Apple stores. Now I see them much more frequently however.

It occurred to me that perhaps that's because it may have been harder to spot a new iPhone because different generations look so similar to each other--and if the person is using a case it would sometimes be impossible to tell if it was a new iPhone.

The X is very distinctive--case or not so it's easy to look around and see who has one. Also, I think there is a slight stigma to owning an iPhone X as people are quick to lecture an owner about how an X isn't worth it, that you aren't responsible with money etc--all without knowing a thing about a person's finances.
 
I've thought all along the X was overpriced by about $100 but that didn't;t stop me from getting it. In Europe they are paying quite a bot more for it and if I were faced with their prices, I probably would have passed on it as well and kept my 8...

I have doubts as to if Apple will drop the prices for the 2018's though. I would not be surprised if Apple kept the same price for the next X, the X Plus was $100-$130 more and the LCD version checked in at somewhere around $750-$800
Yeah I'd not be surprised if they've vastly undersold in the UK considering the price works out at (starting from) nearly $1,400 at current exchange rates (ouch) yeah that includes VAT, but the phone is still $1,164 without!

The thing that makes me think this year's edition will be less is that it's just going to be an even harder sell - I doubt many people will upgrade from a X to a nearly the same model, if anything they will go for the plus. Then there's the lack of the 'anniversary super new ultra exclusive iPhone' tag that probably factored into the Xs appeal. If it's already undersold somewhat I think Apple will want to hedge their bets a bit.

I think they will be going after the midrange 7-7+ market with the 6.1 LCD model, so probably more like $699-$749
 
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I've attended some work events with some very well-off people in recent weeks and seen a good amount of my friends. Almost all are iPhone users

1) None of my close friends own an iPhone X
2) At these work events, less than 10% of customers have an iPhone X

Many of these people would have bought the latest iPhone very quickly a few years ago. One of my best friends (a millionaire in his 30s) is still rocking a 6S.

The iPhone X is an excellent product (I'm actually considering buying a 256G version to replace my 8+); however, fewer "normal" customers are interested in it than prior phones. I don't think that is controversial at all, and all of the survey data supports this.

How can Apple fix that this year?

Don't really care about any iPhones but a millionair in his 30s?
I am more intetested in hearing the tale of making more money.
 
I can only speak for myself but I have yet to see one out in the wild that wasn't behind or on a sales counter somewhere.
 
this is the thing you have to judge whats successful by where it's sold everywhere not just in UK for example. Due to price being the same in dollars i'm sure has put some off and it's hard to know what sales are like in the UK. Just like if we judge the pixel in the UK it's not sold at all but thats more due to the fact only EE sell it here on contract
I think that was my point wasn’t it? I thought I’d made clear my experience was very specific and global sales have been made up of popularity being selective in certain countries, hence the US reference.
 
the software defines your cell phone.
turn then over and they all look the same
 
I've attended some work events with some very well-off people in recent weeks and seen a good amount of my friends. Almost all are iPhone users

1) None of my close friends own an iPhone X
2) At these work events, less than 10% of customers have an iPhone X

Many of these people would have bought the latest iPhone very quickly a few years ago. One of my best friends (a millionaire in his 30s) is still rocking a 6S.

The iPhone X is an excellent product (I'm actually considering buying a 256G version to replace my 8+); however, fewer "normal" customers are interested in it than prior phones. I don't think that is controversial at all, and all of the survey data supports this.

How can Apple fix that this year?

This is possibly also due to the fact older iPhones still do everything people want from them, and millionaire or not why would you drop 1000 plus on something you don’t need? Plus it’s a new learning experience to use the phone.
 
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It’s not just that the X is more money. When it comes down to it, what does this phone do that a 6s, 7, or 8 does not do? It has a slightly bigger screen? Animoji? Front facing selfie portraits? Not good enough, Apple. Lower your prices or come up with more compelling features. It really is not a hit, and I see very few in public.
 
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