iPhone X Nearly 6 months in, the iPhone X isn't that successful

[The Game 161]

It’s not just that the X is more money. When it comes down to it, what does this phone do that a 6s, 7, or 8 does not do? It has a slightly bigger screen? Animoji? Front facing selfie portraits? Not good enough, Apple. Lower your prices or come up with more compelling features. It really is not a hit, and I see very few in public.

better screen
smaller body in the hand
less wasted space
A new design instead of the same body for past 4 years

is worth it to me.

Of course it's a hit in comparison to the other top flagships around. Maybe by apple's standards of selling 70-80 million units it isn't. Doesn't mean it's not a success as it clearly has been.

 

[rafark]

Ultimately I think Apple needs to get its "best" phones back to a $799 price or it will continue to see less unit sales growth

Why would they change if they are healthier than ever... They made MORE revenue by selling less.

 

[adamhenry]

It was a hit with me. I had been waiting to replace my 6S. The 7 had nothing that compelled me to to buy. The X had the right combination to convince me.

 

[Apple_Robert]

It’s not just that the X is more money. When it comes down to it, what does this phone do that a 6s, 7, or 8 does not do? It has a slightly bigger screen? Animoji? Front facing selfie portraits? Not good enough, Apple. Lower your prices or come up with more compelling features. It really is not a hit, and I see very few in public.

It also has a much nicer screen. For some people, the price to feature ratio is not there for the iPhone X. For others like myself, it is. Different needs and different budgets.

 

[44267547]

It’s not just that the X is more money. When it comes down to it, what does this phone do that a 6s, 7, or 8 does not do? It has a slightly bigger screen? Animoji? Front facing selfie portraits? Not good enough, Apple. Lower your prices or come up with more compelling features. It really is not a hit, and I see very few in public.

You genuinely cannot say the iPhone X “Is not a hit”. That’s just an anecdotal experience based off a very small surrounding in your area that you’re making that assumption based on. Your post is an example of why somebody would appreciate an older model iPhone versus a newer one. You’re finding that certain features don’t correlate with your appreciation for certain features on the iPhone X, yet Others might find an iPhone X experience to their likeing. Which is exactly why the iPhone X is not for everybody, and that’s why Apple has other iPhones their lineup specifically for those who are not ready you’re interested in the iPhone X.

 

[rillrill]

I agree the X will be right for some people. If you have the means and want the best, the X is a great looking phone. Many analysts are saying the X isnt selling as well as previous generations, and I agree with them.

That’s not to say that Apple isn’t making a ton of money, because if a customer buys an 8 or even 7, they are still buying an Apple product. It’s win-win, but it is also a very different strategy for Apple.

 

[IowaLynn]

Didn’t I read on MR that Apple pays ~$100 per iPhone X screen? Over time they’ll move to LG and other suppliers. I’m glad to see people take time and don’t rush out to but a 1.0 $1000+ item. Wait until it’s been out and iOS has also caught up as well as 3rd party accessories and software.

 

[Phone Junky]

I’m glad to see people take time and don’t rush out to but a 1.0 $1000+ item. Wait until it’s been out and iOS has also caught up as well as 3rd party accessories and software.

Meanwhile, I'll continue to enjoy the crap outta mine.

 

[jonblatho]

Wall Street expectations were it would be a massive shift to the iPhone X.

My memory may be failing me, but if I recall correctly, just about everyone was surprised at the jump in iPhone ASP largely associated with iPhone X. The phone’s been doing better than expected.
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Many analysts are saying the X is it selling as well as previous generations, and I agree with them.

Well, that’s not particularly a surprise because Apple’s never simultaneously launched three iPhones or one that starts as expensive as iPhone X does. There’s nothing that one can reasonably compare it to.

The effect of the three new flagships last quarter was enough to make it their best-selling quarter ever after accounting for the differences in number of weeks in the year-ago quarter (indeed, the extra week a year ago is the only reason last year’s new flagships produced the best quarter ever) and easily their best quarterly revenue of all time, largely driven by the increase in iPhone ASP, largely driven by iPhone X.

 

[raqball]

Meanwhile, I'll continue to enjoy the crap outta mine.

Egg-zach-wee!

It's the best phone I've ever owned. Was it pricey? Yup but I don't regret purchasing it..

 

[BLUEBLASTER]

Edinburgh here. In my office of about 300 people not seen anyone with the X yet. A lot of people upgraded to the 8 and one girl the 7 but no X. One of my friends has the X and some guy at my gym as one but that's all I know. Mostly everyone has an iphone including me but no Xs yet.

 

[MattEcho]

I've only seen one iPhone in the wild, but I live in a rural area. Though that one was owned by an Apple employee, so maybe doesn't even count, lol. The latest news I've read about X sales seems to support the anecdotal evidence for underwhelming sales of the X, e.g. yahoo article from 2 days ago. I don't think this should surprise anyone. Ever since the intro of the 5c, Apple has expanded the tiered pricing strategy. They sold a ton of iPhones last year, just not as many X's as predicted. But that makes sense to me, higher price point and all.

Overall, I like the idea of options, I just wish they would ensure that the base iOS would run smoothly on all devices instead of only the latest and greatest. That is the single most irritating thing. My love of Apple hardware over the last 15 years grew is rooted in longevity. I'm looking to upgrade this year from my 5s and will probably get the lower priced new phone (assuming that happens). But I want it to last for 4 years.

 

[1050792]

I've only seen one iPhone in the wild, but I live in a rural area. Though that one was owned by an Apple employee, so maybe doesn't even count, lol. The latest news I've read about X sales seems to support the anecdotal evidence for underwhelming sales of the X, e.g. yahoo article from 2 days ago. I don't think this should surprise anyone. Ever since the intro of the 5c, Apple has expanded the tiered pricing strategy. They sold a ton of iPhones last year, just not as many X's as predicted. But that makes sense to me, higher price point and all.

Overall, I like the idea of options, I just wish they would ensure that the base iOS would run smoothly on all devices instead of only the latest and greatest. That is the single most irritating thing. My love of Apple hardware over the last 15 years grew is rooted in longevity. I'm looking to upgrade this year from my 5s and will probably get the lower priced new phone (assuming that happens). But I want it to last for 4 years.

That's right and everything but then how would Apple justify the price of the latest and greatest device if the performance would be the same across all devices? There would be no reason to upgrade at all.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

better screen
smaller body in the hand
less wasted space
A new design instead of the same body for past 4 years

is worth it to me.

Of course it's a hit in comparison to the other top flagships around. Maybe by apple's standards of selling 70-80 million units it isn't. Doesn't mean it's not a success as it clearly has been.

I think you raise the point of it being worth it and how this differs from person to person. For you it’s worth it but for myself and others those defining differences just aren’t compelling enough. I didn’t find the screen remarkably different on the X despite the huge hype leading up to them adopting OLED.

Previously we expected designs to change like when the iPhone 6 came out yet it wasn’t £400 more than a 5S. Some of you can evidently justify a huge premium and that’s great, but this is the hurdle keeping this device from being widely adored. I think the X has been successful within its own niche market and if that’s online or just below expectations then I’m sure to Apple it’s a pleasing outcome.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

That's right and everything but then how would Apple justify the price of the latest and greatest device if the performance would be the same across all devices? There would be no reason to upgrade at all.

The X currently has the same performance as the 8 and the price difference is significant.

There’s little reason to upgrade as it is with iPhones all being so close in performance which is why the upgrade market is shrinking across the whole industry.

 

[osta.doc]

I looked at the X, and liked it. It just wasn’t worth 300.00 more than the 8 that I bought. But that’s for my money.

Someone else’s money may say different, and that’s ok.

 

[1050792]

The X currently has the same performance as the 8 and the price difference is significant.

There’s little reason to upgrade as it is with iPhones all being so close in performance which is why the upgrade market is shrinking across the whole industry.

And that is exactly the reason companies optimize their latest and greatest device, so users will upgrade.

 

[raqball]

There’s little reason to upgrade.

• Much better screen on the X
• OLED on the X
• faceID > touchID
• Getsures > Home button
• Design! One looks fresh and modern and one looks old, worn and like a dinosaur.
• Larger screen in the same sized form factor

Those were my reason as to why I see the X worth $300 more than the 8...

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

• Much better screen on the X
• OLED on the X
• faceID > touchID
• Getsures > Home button
• Design! One looks fresh and modern and one looks old, worn and like a dinosaur.
• Larger screen in the same sized form factor

Those were my reason as to why I see the X worth $300 more than the 8...

That’s fab mate but none of those reasons remotely impress or tempt me to pay a significant premium. My post made that point clear that people are different. The days of new iPhones blowing us away are over I think as we know what to expect and all iPhones do pretty much the same thing. Perhaps I’m just getting bored with the fact smartphones aren’t as exciting as they used to be?

 

[1050792]

That’s fab mate but none of those reasons remotely impress or tempt me to pay a significant premium. My post made that point clear that people are different. The days of new iPhones blowing us away are over I think as we know what to expect and all iPhones do pretty much the same thing. Perhaps I’m just getting bored with the fact smartphones aren’t as exciting as they used to be?

Since when iPhones blew people away besides the first generation and the 4? Of course they all do the same thing, but the approach of doing the same thing is changing and improving every year like the gesture based UI on the X. The "old" way of doing things just like the old generation iPhones will be a thing of the past soon.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

And that is exactly the reason companies optimize their latest and greatest device, so users will upgrade.

My current iPhone is optimised so I’m not sure what your point is? The iPhone X is still waiting for app developers in many instances to optimise apps for the new screen shape too, so again I am confused by your claim.

 

[1050792]

My current iPhone is optimised so I’m not sure what your point is? The iPhone X is still waiting for app developers in many instances to optimise apps for the new screen shape too, so again I am confused by your claim.

Which is your current iPhone? I'm talking about optimized performance, I highly doubt an iPhone 7 has the same performance as the 8/X. 8/10 Apps on the iPhone X are already optimized, especially the ones most users use on a daily basis.

 

[raqball]

That’s fab mate but none of those reasons remotely impress or tempt me to pay a significant premium. My post made that point clear that people are different. The days of new iPhones blowing us away are over I think as we know what to expect and all iPhones do pretty much the same thing. Perhaps I’m just getting bored with the fact smartphones aren’t as exciting as they used to be?

That's pretty much al smart phones these days. There is really no reason for anyone to upgrade from the Galaxy S8 to the S9 ether..

Phones have pretty much reached their peak, design wise, and are pretty much just spec improvements. The X is a new design that we don't see very often in phones these days and that's not really a slam on other manufacturers as there is not much that can be done with phone design.

If someone does not see the added benefits of the X then obviously there is no reason to upgrade or to buy it over the 8. I listed the reason I think its worth more but those reasons won't apply to others. Each person has to decide for themselves if it's worth the additional money.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Since when iPhones blew people away besides the first generation and the 4? Of course they all do the same thing, but the approach of doing the same thing is changing and improving every year like the gesture based UI on the X. The "old" way of doing things just like the old generation iPhones will be a thing of the past soon.

The days of huge buzz around iPhone releases and pretty much everybody you know rushing out for the latest and greatest has diminished in recent years. The market has matured and iPhones specs have got so incremental since the iPhone 6 that the need and lust to upgrade is less. It’s a shift in trends I have noticed and it can only really be put down to a mature market.

 

[1050792]

The days of huge buzz around iPhone releases and pretty much everybody you know rushing out for the latest and greatest has diminished in recent years. The market has matured and iPhones specs have got so incremental since the iPhone 6 that the need and lust to upgrade is less. It’s a shift in trends I have noticed and it can only really be put down to a mature market.

You own an iPhone 6? Have you touched a 7,8 X or even a 6S?