yes, because is not for battery or something bonus ,but because its going back in time with no lamination and no anti reflective counting . So yes making thicker and heavier but still up to 10 hours makes this a minus
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New 2017 iPad : thoughts on it ?
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No you won't. It's right here in this very thread. Nobody will buy one. It's been declared by the experts already.
I bet you're not even married.
Battery is more capacity than air2/pro9.7 so that's a plus but not so substantial it warrants air1 form factor.
I suspect it's screen skimping related too.
Still as a consequence a9 and a bit bigger battery should work out well assuming the screen isn't crazy power hungry to offset theoretical gains
I read speculation that it has a bigger battery. What's your source to say it's the same as the Air 2 battery?
That's their target marketing fluff. Look at the MBP range.
It's also possible that the screen is less efficient. So it could be a larger battery but same battery life.
I don't think we know either way right now.
The iPad Air 1 screen was terrible, I can't believe Apple cheaped out on the screen.
Was hoping to nab a spare iPad on the cheap. Looks like I'll be looking for deals on the 32-128GB iPad Air 2.
The display is a major downgrade and I'm a bit iffy on them using the A9 (iPhone 6s) with weaker GPU than A9X to power 2048x1536. Gonna have to search for offscreen benchmarks to check comparative GPU performance for A9X, A9 and A8X.
The display is a major downgrade and I'm a bit iffy on them using the A9 (iPhone 6s) with weaker GPU than A9X to power 2048x1536. Gonna have to search for offscreen benchmarks to check comparative GPU performance for A9X, A9 and A8X.
Should be higher clocked than 6s but also a8 can power mini4 fine as far as I know and it's a8 so should be fine for casual users.
2gb (one could only expect at minimum) will help too like it does with mini4
They should named it iPad SE. It's a good business move, like the SE.
If the screen is the same as the Air 1 it will be totally crap, the gap between iPads will be even more. The problem with the Air 2 is that is too good with a low price, nobody is buying the Pro.
If the screen is the same as the Air 1 it will be totally crap, the gap between iPads will be even more. The problem with the Air 2 is that is too good with a low price, nobody is buying the Pro.
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The people that always complain about Apple making things thinner are really complaining about battery life. This iPad is thicker but in no way will there be any improvement in terms of battery life simply because it's using a cheaper display and a slightly resources intensive processor. You'll still get 10 hours no matter what. MacRumors members would probably rather go back to 'dumb' phones or demand their iPhones to be thicker than 2 decks of cards than check/change their usage.
iPhone 7 US - $649
iPhone 7 UK - £599
The exchange rate hasn't changed much at all since the iPhone 7 launched so what's Apple's excuse for this iPad SE?
The new iPad still has a headphone jack?!? That wasn't very courageous, Apple.
"Fine" is subjective. I've been increasingly noticing microstutters on the iPhone 6 (A8) prior to trading that in so I'm not sure I'd be happy with the iPad mini 4 which has even higher resolution.
That said, it does seem GPU of the A9 iPad is bound to be at least comparable to A8X Air 2. Likely even slightly better given the bigger size allows for higher clock rate.
Still, I think the Air 2 on sale for $50-100 off is better value for money than the new iPad model on strength of the fully laminated display.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10286/the-97-ipad-pro-review/2
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Assuming Apple went back to using the same display for the 2017 iPad as they use for the iPad Air, that's actually a much more noticeable downgrade than any performance difference. The old iPad Air display really did feel like cheap, hollow plastic. Also, the Air 2 display had significantly improved visibility outdoors and in bright light conditions.
The 5C with its plastic body was much more obviously a budget device, and it launched alongside a new flagship model. This isn't really the same scenario.
itll be like the Mini 4 is to the iPad Air 2, day to day stuff performance difference is neglible if non existent but if your trying to game or do graphic intensive tasks on your iPad the Pro has the clear advantage at driving the high resolution display.
Exactly. I would upgrade to this from my mini 4 but I'd rather just get a second hand pro 9.7 for maybe 100-200 more than the new iPad.
Clearly this is going to be aimed at the educational section and entry level. But sounds like they're using up the 2014 parts bin and trying some other screen manufacturer with a lower cost and less complicated display, dressing it up with a mild SOC upgrade and giving it a rebrand of sorts.
That said, here in Canada, a $50 price drop isn't a huge deal and it's not going to send people rushing to buy one as it's suddenly in their range. If people wanted an Apple tablet,they'd be looking used or at a mini. I am guessing the Air 2 will get that discount or more as they are cleared out.
That said, here in Canada, a $50 price drop isn't a huge deal and it's not going to send people rushing to buy one as it's suddenly in their range. If people wanted an Apple tablet,they'd be looking used or at a mini. I am guessing the Air 2 will get that discount or more as they are cleared out.
Looks good and for the price you really can't go wrong.
But when the 10.5 ipad pro hits the market I don't see the point of the 9.7 , unless you're on a budget.
Going from 10.5 to 9.7 or vice versa is not going to make a difference.
It's a nice tablet that's going to be pointless in few months down the line. I wouldn't buy it until the new ipad pro is released.
But when the 10.5 ipad pro hits the market I don't see the point of the 9.7 , unless you're on a budget.
Going from 10.5 to 9.7 or vice versa is not going to make a difference.
It's a nice tablet that's going to be pointless in few months down the line. I wouldn't buy it until the new ipad pro is released.
Pointless no, people are not always able to afford the $600 iPad models this iPad definetly will have a audience same way the SE did.
As an iPad Air user (well, I was up until recently; I lent to a relative whose iPad broke and she'll probably be keeping it) this would actually be an upgrade for me. I liked the form of the Air so I don't mind the thickness. While I'm not in a rush to buy one, I will replace my tablet at some point since I use it for reading ebooks a lot, plus browsing, etc., especially when out of town.
Do you guys think this will end up being like the iPad 3, though, where a better version is released in a relatively short time at the same price point? Or is it a pretty safe buy? I don't have any need for a Pro given the nature of my usage (I mean, the Air 1 was working fine for me, albeit a bit slower after iOS 10, and I'd still be using it had I not given it away).
Do you guys think this will end up being like the iPad 3, though, where a better version is released in a relatively short time at the same price point? Or is it a pretty safe buy? I don't have any need for a Pro given the nature of my usage (I mean, the Air 1 was working fine for me, albeit a bit slower after iOS 10, and I'd still be using it had I not given it away).
Nah I don't think so, it's a safe buy. They had the ability to dig deeper into the old parts bin then they did, but they did it this way on purpose, to go back to some older screen tech etc, to get a lower price point (I still think $299Usd would've been a better price point psychologically to get more people interested).
I'd be surprised if this was updated next year even, outside of maybe a price drop or storage increase,because it's sole purpose is to provide cheaper entry point for consumers and education.
When the IPad pro gets updated, that's where things will get interesting. Will they keep the current models on sale as a first Gen and drop the price, which bridges the gap between the new basic IPad and that? Or just upgrade specs and stop selling the old model?
Given that there is supposedly a new 10.5 I'm guessing they update the specs and drop the original IPad Pro to prevent clutter and confusion with models.
Given that the gap in pricing is significant, maybe the updated Pro gets a modest price decrease so the new 10.5 form factor, while being positioned above the 2nd Gen IPP, isn't astronomically high and again, the difference between the basic one and the IPP isn't as large a gap.
But this new IPad, with what it's intended for, in my opinion, is here for a couple years as is, mostly unchanged.