for $2000 1 year of piece of mind is not good enough....
also bringing it into the apple store is a nag.
Build it fir longevity
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New 27" iMac's had issues but is now FIXED!
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for $2000 1 year of piece of mind is not good enough....
also bringing it into the apple store is a nag.
Build it fir longevity
In todays world it's not unusual for high performance electrical components to run at temperatures around the 100 degrees celcuis mark or more. The components can handle it. No one complains normally because the components are hidden in the innards of their nice roomy computer tower, away from our prying fingers...
Granted, the iMac does get hot around the top left corner, but that's because theres a bloomin great processor in there working hard to satisfy you're computing needs. The reason its hot is because its close to your fingers and not insulated by plastic, which is probably a good thing as that means less heat is reflecting around in the case.
My point here is that it is perfectly normal for some components in computers to run hot like this under load - their designed to handle it. The unusual thing here is that they dont usually transfer the heat to the case quite so much.
The case is just acting as an extention to the heatsink. Which, in terms of CPU cooling, is a good thing.
Then why are my new Mac Mini -- whose processor is almost as fast as the iMac's -- and my 24" ACD display completely cool? I think it has more to do with the power supply being integrated into the display.
Granted, the iMac does get hot around the top left corner, but that's because theres a bloomin great processor in there working hard to satisfy you're computing needs. The reason its hot is because its close to your fingers and not insulated by plastic, which is probably a good thing as that means less heat is reflecting around in the case.
My point here is that it is perfectly normal for some components in computers to run hot like this under load - their designed to handle it. The unusual thing here is that they dont usually transfer the heat to the case quite so much.
The case is just acting as an extention to the heatsink. Which, in terms of CPU cooling, is a good thing.
Then why are my new Mac Mini -- whose processor is almost as fast as the iMac's -- and my 24" ACD display completely cool? I think it has more to do with the power supply being integrated into the display.
Everything.
You can't declare 'Failure through heat' because the iMac gets hot to the touch, as it's always been since they went aluminium.
UK houses tend not to be the same temperature as the outdoors. 70F tends to be the indoor temperature throughout the world, due to heating or air conditioning. And iMacs have hardly been failing in droves in hot countries.
Apple mouse = horrible = opinion.
If the GPU is not powerful enough, how come my Radeon 2600 - a weaker GPU - manages fine.
That's a shame. In the UK the law says that goods must be fit for purpose. A £1500 computer should last at least 3 years, so if it fails after a year (depending on cause) you'd still be covered.
The cut off period is 6 years, so if your computer cost say £5000 you would be in a strong position to get it fixed or replaced after all those years.
Warranties are generally not worth it over here because we have existing statutory rights in law.
The sky is falling is my quote, and a direct description of your baseless conclusions. You took 58 votes on a Mac board, combined them with your incorrect assumption from CNET and ENGADGET, while conveniently leaving out the correct quotes from both, and concluded that there is some huge problem with the current product. Since you are hanging your hat on the stories led by ENGADGET, you should actually quote them correctly. They said that they did not have any issues with their own machines. You conveniently left that out.
Again, I digress, take a look at any forum, any time of day, for any product line, and you are going to see a ton of problems, some related, and some not. To say that it is rampant from this board and a couple observational reports, is irresponsible to say the least.
Geez, I thought you went away.
We still rehashing this stuff 2 pages later?
Dude, it doesn't matter if CNET or ENGADGET
said they had no problems with their machines.
The point is, there were enough people
complaining across the Internet for those
websites to hear them.
Don't you get it?
Please feel free to rehash this in another
day or two after we moved on.
We still rehashing this stuff 2 pages later?
Dude, it doesn't matter if CNET or ENGADGET
said they had no problems with their machines.
The point is, there were enough people
complaining across the Internet for those
websites to hear them.
Don't you get it?
Please feel free to rehash this in another
day or two after we moved on.
Cheers for the updates. The new 10.6.2 that have been seeded out to developers have a fix for the airport issues so hopefully Apple will release the update soon.
I don't have a second home here on the forum as you seem to do, so sorry for my late response. What you don't get is that the people complaining are a very small minority of buyers. Do you know exactly how many machines have been sold versus complaints? As with any newly launched device, the minority of complaints always makes the headlines. Who wants to read about a happy customer?
I'm sure that your rent is due, so please pay and respond. I'll be back in a few days.
The problem is, you keep rehashing stuff that
I never brought up in the first place.
It's like you read my original post, took out of
it what you THOUGHT I said, accused me of
saying things I didn't and every time I respond
trying to correct you it doesn't seep in.
I don't have to know how many players were
sold to see there are problems with iMacs. All
I have to do is take the time to read a few Mac
forums and Apple Discussions to see that there
is a large handful of people experiencing the same
problem.
Obviously CNET and ENGADGET did the same
research.
I never brought up in the first place.
It's like you read my original post, took out of
it what you THOUGHT I said, accused me of
saying things I didn't and every time I respond
trying to correct you it doesn't seep in.
I don't have to know how many players were
sold to see there are problems with iMacs. All
I have to do is take the time to read a few Mac
forums and Apple Discussions to see that there
is a large handful of people experiencing the same
problem.
Obviously CNET and ENGADGET did the same
research.
Perhaps you should write normally instead of like poetry. People might understand you better that way.
you shouldn write it that way. doesnt sound good, its strange, and its a pain to read. sorry but im being honest
I am afraid you are misinformed on this matter. When we are reading, our brains do not process information in a simple word-by-word linear fashion, but instead, we scan ahead and integrate those words ahead into our reading experience, giving that experience a familiar conversational flow. Natural breaks, such as periods and paragraph breaks, mirror the pauses in spoken conversation. The style in which you are posting gives the reader a disjointed sensation, as if you were pausing in the middle of a sentence for no apparent reason, and has a tendency to make the reader feel hostile toward your post, whether or not they agree with its content. I actually skip reading most of your posts because of this, and it seems as if many people who still do read them react to them in an uncharacteristically hostile manner.
Having finished my rant, let me say that I am hopeful that this is indeed an Airport issue that will be remedied in the upcoming 10.6.2 update. It is embarrassing for Apple that the problem arose at this time, however, considering the current focus of Apple' "Get a Mac" campaign.
Uuuuggghhh. Jesus people, the personal attacks by the Apple-Is-My-Personal-G-d-And-Steve-His-Messiah defenders here are soooo obvious and tired.
Give it a #$^ing rest, if you think Apple does everything right and that any statement of problems is overblown or the poster's fault, great, we hear you, no need to keep laying into every person posting a contrary opinion with every bit of vitriol and rage you can muster about everything from their views on Apple QC to their #$%ing writing style.
Give it a #$^ing rest, if you think Apple does everything right and that any statement of problems is overblown or the poster's fault, great, we hear you, no need to keep laying into every person posting a contrary opinion with every bit of vitriol and rage you can muster about everything from their views on Apple QC to their #$%ing writing style.
no i did not declare imac failure to heat, i specify imac 27 inch with icore7 with hyperthread 100% CPU 100 % GPU, based on idle heat generate on imac 27 inch base model, core2duo.all imac are hot, but 27inch icore7 will bring it to another level. i am sure of it.
i am sure UK house is not as hot as room in the tropic without aircon. much hotter.
i have gtx 280 on 30inch monitor, i think it is not fast enough for that resolution. 27 inch have quite high resolution too, so i am sure for some 3d games, it will not be sufficient. when you increase resolution, the GPU have to be much faster to cope, especially for 3d games.
i am sure UK house is not as hot as room in the tropic without aircon. much hotter.
i have gtx 280 on 30inch monitor, i think it is not fast enough for that resolution. 27 inch have quite high resolution too, so i am sure for some 3d games, it will not be sufficient. when you increase resolution, the GPU have to be much faster to cope, especially for 3d games.
Sorry this is my 1st post, I usually only look at this and other boards when I have a question. I reg so I could post, but held off as this thread was getting a little hot.
Any way I got the new 27" Imac and I love it, but I HAVE had the issues with some choppy flash, and web performance. Plus an ungodly sound coming from I-tues while surfing the web. This has only happened 3 times, once the back felt warm, the other two cool. Once I was on the computer a long time and once only a few minutes. I cannot reproduce a pattern. The last time I had this choppy flash video I went to a news site and their video played smoothly. I did not pop an activity monitor on this last one, but this leads me toward a software issue;
10.6, safari, flash, or other plug-ins, or some combination flash versions and plugins with the default image loaded on the new macs. If it was hard ware it should pop all the time or after the same amount of load.
There could also be an issue with the image on one of the disk duplicators at the factory, I could do a re-load as I have all my info on my macbook pro to test that out, but hell it is sunday and football time soon (if work would stop calling). Any way this is just my 2 cents.
Any way I got the new 27" Imac and I love it, but I HAVE had the issues with some choppy flash, and web performance. Plus an ungodly sound coming from I-tues while surfing the web. This has only happened 3 times, once the back felt warm, the other two cool. Once I was on the computer a long time and once only a few minutes. I cannot reproduce a pattern. The last time I had this choppy flash video I went to a news site and their video played smoothly. I did not pop an activity monitor on this last one, but this leads me toward a software issue;
10.6, safari, flash, or other plug-ins, or some combination flash versions and plugins with the default image loaded on the new macs. If it was hard ware it should pop all the time or after the same amount of load.
There could also be an issue with the image on one of the disk duplicators at the factory, I could do a re-load as I have all my info on my macbook pro to test that out, but hell it is sunday and football time soon (if work would stop calling). Any way this is just my 2 cents.
Frustrated or Not!
This forum is like a seasaw, it's full of comments towards the positive and the negative. I have never used an iMac before and will recieve mine in early December. 27" 1TB - 8GB Ram - i7 Quad Core. Reading some problems people are having with their new iMacs can be overwhelming, but even if the one i recieve has some problems I don't think i would ever amount to the frustrations I have with using a Windows Machine. In the end Mac will come through, they always do. I guess what i'm saying, if you don't like Apple iMac go out and buy a Windows PC, by the way when your mates are in trouble do you support them or bitch and complain about them. Apple is a good company - they will rise above these minor imperfections. By the way I will be using my iMac for every thing!
This forum is like a seasaw, it's full of comments towards the positive and the negative. I have never used an iMac before and will recieve mine in early December. 27" 1TB - 8GB Ram - i7 Quad Core. Reading some problems people are having with their new iMacs can be overwhelming, but even if the one i recieve has some problems I don't think i would ever amount to the frustrations I have with using a Windows Machine. In the end Mac will come through, they always do. I guess what i'm saying, if you don't like Apple iMac go out and buy a Windows PC, by the way when your mates are in trouble do you support them or bitch and complain about them. Apple is a good company - they will rise above these minor imperfections. By the way I will be using my iMac for every thing!
I was going to purchase my 27in tomorrow too, but this thread scared me...I'm still going to make a trip there, but now I don't feel 100% positive in making a purchase.
Take the Plunge
You will take the plunge, I don't believe you will leave the store without it! - these small and minor errors will be fixed soon and then there's AppleCare if you need to use it. You will be glad you brought a 27" - by the way not everyone is experiencing the same thing.
You will take the plunge, I don't believe you will leave the store without it! - these small and minor errors will be fixed soon and then there's AppleCare if you need to use it. You will be glad you brought a 27" - by the way not everyone is experiencing the same thing.
Hey @all,
I've been following this thread for weeks now. It really really concerned me as I am planning on getting the 27".
It's a pitty that so many of you have problems with the flickering and memory leakage.
However, regarding that heat "issue", I have to say that I cannot quite understand. Yesterday, I finally got the chance to check it out at a local store. I was touching the back of the iMac as if I had some sort of fetish. It was warm but far from hot. In comparison to each notebook I ever owned, it was NOT HOT AT ALL. It was late yesterday so it must have run the entire already so at least with that one...no heat issue which seemed abnormal.
I was honestly think that it would get so hot that you could not even touch it.
Crossing my fingers for all of you that have existing problems!
Cheers
I've been following this thread for weeks now. It really really concerned me as I am planning on getting the 27".
It's a pitty that so many of you have problems with the flickering and memory leakage.
However, regarding that heat "issue", I have to say that I cannot quite understand. Yesterday, I finally got the chance to check it out at a local store. I was touching the back of the iMac as if I had some sort of fetish. It was warm but far from hot. In comparison to each notebook I ever owned, it was NOT HOT AT ALL. It was late yesterday so it must have run the entire already so at least with that one...no heat issue which seemed abnormal.
I was honestly think that it would get so hot that you could not even touch it.
Crossing my fingers for all of you that have existing problems!
Cheers