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If it was Bush's store you would just pay some extra money and you don't go back to the end of the line.
No his problem is with the Motorola Q using EV-DO for everything (to speed things up) Motorola made the choice that if EV-DO is available route all traffic through it (hey next gen right?) bad idea! kills battery!, You don't understand your BB very well. Your BlackBerry will say EV-DO at the top of the coverage screen however BB don't use EV-DO for checking the email for new messages and such, just plan old slow network, and mostly for sending as well. Just because it says you are in an EV-DO coverage area doesn't mean it's being sent that way. BB smartly chose to have email send over the regular network for checking for new message and such, besides it would be just as slow to get a request from the server.
EV-DO eats up bandwidth bigtime. There are currently (i believe from my work) only about 5 major 3G chipset makers, all have bad battery life.
Most of the simple things phones do like SMS, email, and such WILL NOT use EV-DO even though it says you are in a coverage area for it. Things like browsing ringtones and such will use EV-DO
So realize your blackberry isn't using EV-DO to check it's email, because if it did it would be dead in about 2 hours.
Trust me, I do this for a living.
EV-DO eats up bandwidth bigtime. There are currently (i believe from my work) only about 5 major 3G chipset makers, all have bad battery life.
Most of the simple things phones do like SMS, email, and such WILL NOT use EV-DO even though it says you are in a coverage area for it. Things like browsing ringtones and such will use EV-DO
So realize your blackberry isn't using EV-DO to check it's email, because if it did it would be dead in about 2 hours.
Trust me, I do this for a living.
If there is going to be so much inventory then he can just get back in line and get another one at the Apple store - or pick one up on saturday.
That's very shortsighted of you. Someday you might be sitting in a restaurant with your boss, and suddenly need to look up a Wikipedia page to impress him with your knowledge, and... zut alors! It'll take like 30 seconds longer because you're on EDGE.
And then where will you be? Huh? Where will you be?
At the end of the day you either have $500+ right now to spend on a phone or you don't. It ain't friggin cheap. If you do, you pretty much know if you are or are not going to get the iPhone.
Discussing what it does and does not have is productive but just bashing it for fun, especially when you may not really understand what you are talking about is a waste of everyones' time.
Would I spend $500+ on an iPhone right now? Probably not as right now I need the cash for other things. Luckily have a gf (soon to be fiance) who has offered to buy me one with a forthcoming bonus next week. Yes, I feel lucky.
Thing is, if they come out with a new one early next year I would be tempted to spend part of a bonus on that one too (assuming I like the first one).
The hardest part of this for me is going to be if the dern thing will actually make me happier and serve my mobile handset needs better than my Blackberry. I am not 100% sold on that yet...but hoping.
Discussing what it does and does not have is productive but just bashing it for fun, especially when you may not really understand what you are talking about is a waste of everyones' time.
Would I spend $500+ on an iPhone right now? Probably not as right now I need the cash for other things. Luckily have a gf (soon to be fiance) who has offered to buy me one with a forthcoming bonus next week. Yes, I feel lucky.
Thing is, if they come out with a new one early next year I would be tempted to spend part of a bonus on that one too (assuming I like the first one).
The hardest part of this for me is going to be if the dern thing will actually make me happier and serve my mobile handset needs better than my Blackberry. I am not 100% sold on that yet...but hoping.
And we only eat lunch at places that have wi-fi..
jk
BTW, I love the quote, is that Fear and Loathing?
Dial-up really isn't so bad... unless you're trying to download files or intensely looking at images (i.e. porn).
This is now my favorite post of the day!
I just love the i.e... as if INTENSELY looking at pictures didn't spell it out...what about videos????????
I was being sarcastic, actually. Should've thrown in a </sarcasm>. In case you didn't pick up on it.
But Lord ha' mercy on anyone unimpressed by Wikipedia.
Yeah, it's FaLiLV. My favorite opening sentence of all time. Not the best opening paragraph, though, which is (IMHO) from Shirley Jackson's The Haunting of Hill House.
I dont really get why people are complaining so much about GPS. Sure, it would be a fun feature but how often would you really need to use it? From reading all of the bragging a lot of people do on this forum about their possessions and stock investments in AAPL, wouldn't you already have GPS in your Mercedes, BMW or Maserati anyway? Where else would you need GPS but in your car? Plus GPS would be a battery drain.
As for 3G, I can understand why this is a downer. Most people in America do not live under a 3G network. America is a huge place, which is why 3G has not been rolled out nationwide. It just costs too much. European countries are much smaller than the US which is why they can have great 3G network coverage. If you live in Manhattan or another 3G metropolis, maybe you should wait for the EU iPhone version coming out in Q4 2007. No company would EVER release a phone now to the Eu without 3G abilities and expect a success.
I hope Apple has a success, I am not sure yet if I will buy one but I am considering it. I am just in amazement at Apple's ablility to manipulate the US media market for it's products, something that has not worked out quite as well across the pond. Creating quite a frenzy for a device may backfire once the consumers get their hands on an actual iPhone. I don't think this will happen. Americans on average seem to prefer form over function, which can be attested to by the millions of Motorola Razrs I see every day. I have one. Awful phone but its design was beautiful at its debut.
As for 3G, I can understand why this is a downer. Most people in America do not live under a 3G network. America is a huge place, which is why 3G has not been rolled out nationwide. It just costs too much. European countries are much smaller than the US which is why they can have great 3G network coverage. If you live in Manhattan or another 3G metropolis, maybe you should wait for the EU iPhone version coming out in Q4 2007. No company would EVER release a phone now to the Eu without 3G abilities and expect a success.
I hope Apple has a success, I am not sure yet if I will buy one but I am considering it. I am just in amazement at Apple's ablility to manipulate the US media market for it's products, something that has not worked out quite as well across the pond. Creating quite a frenzy for a device may backfire once the consumers get their hands on an actual iPhone. I don't think this will happen. Americans on average seem to prefer form over function, which can be attested to by the millions of Motorola Razrs I see every day. I have one. Awful phone but its design was beautiful at its debut.
I have come to the conclusion that this is untrue. Apple is creating minisites for the iphone. There WILL be websites that will not be preformatted, but it seems like so far Apple has created a lot of portals to sites they are using as examples.
IMHO the best advantage to GPS location is in the event of emergency 911 call. It already has to have this by law, but it's just that the GPS location is not enabled to be called by software apps for more frivolous uses like locating your friends or the nearest McDonald's.
Two per customer is good; better than expected! I guess this means David Clayman (the guy in line at Apple Store, Fifth Avenue) will be able to get two like he wanted.
I love having google maps on my treo; this is how I use it:
-First I open my eyes and look at the street signs around me, or addresses printed on buildings (new fangled identification devices).
-Next I enter said location into google maps.
-Now I see a map with my location and I can search for businesses or other locations around me.
Clearly the art of map-reading is dead. My gf, who works for LAPD, can read a thomas guide like a pro.
I agree, if I had a lexus w/navigation, GPS wouuldn't be an issue. But I don't think many folks share your good fortune. In regards to loading time on your BB 8800, the speed is a factor of a number of factors including the strength of the signal and the service provider (AT&T weak point). The bottom line is 3G is coming for the iPhone and the current model can't be upgraded. And like the iPod, storage capacity will most likely increase on the next version as well. Honestly, if you had the choice of an iPhone today with 3G and perhaps more storage (and not even counting on GPS), would you keep todays iPhone or wish you had the 3G version? That's the quandry you'll face in 9 - 12 months. If $600 isn't an issue, then its non-issue.
In regards to battery life and 3G, that's also a misnomer. Granted it does eat more power but not 50%. I have a 2 year old LG 4650 w/3G(Verison) with extended battery that lasts 1-2 days between charges. And that's 2 Y.O. technology.
It's certaintly a tough choice to sit on the sidelines now but it would be tougher (for me) to run the same gauntlet 9- 12 months from now with the first iPhone in tow.
Interesting points. Perhaps EVDO chips use less power than UMTS? Because when 3G is working on my blackjack, it will eat my battery up in no time. Even half an hour of browsing means I will not make it home that day without having to recharge. Of course the blackjack has a small battery (very slim device). But even with the extended pack it's still not good. One hour of using 3G max before I have to start worrying about whether I'll make it through the day.
I think Apple will have 3G when they have worked with a manufacturer to make it as power efficient as possible. And when the software is capable of using EDGE for things like email and 3G for more intense work.
And you are right, if you have Nav in your cars and if you aren't worried about spending another $500 for iPhone II, then it's that much easier to buy this thing tomorrow.
But personally, I'll probably go for version I and III, and skip II. People who wait for II will in turn be disappointed when III comes out 9-12 months after that and is cheaper, larger capacity and so on. Waiting isn't necessarily a perfect answer either.
So yes, you are correct, RIM does not make any 3G enabled blackberries on GSM NETWORKS, but mine is every bit 3G
Yes! That is exactly what I would do when I am out of my car in NYC and am not exactly sure where a certain place is. What kind of speed does the treo run at? I am interested in seeing how google maps AJAX works with EDGE.
Well my treo is the first-gen 650 cdma with no highspeed data. It's about dial-up speeds but it doesn't bother me.