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The Flashing Fi

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Sep 23, 2007
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nothing happened... i am running itune. outlook. rhino4. trillian. Last night itune didn't work. no sound (it said something about the sound when i start itune). i couldn't hear stuff on youtube. but... i can hear the "po po po" when i adjust the volume. Anyway, it worked again after restart.

2.1 has problems. no questions about it. damnit.... apple! come on...

Do you have any HP peripherals though?
 

Raineer

macrumors member
Apr 26, 2008
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Just wanted to post that I had the 640x480 graphics issue which refused to go away (iMac 24, Core 2 Duo). I tried looking for the "latest Intel driver" which was referenced earlier in the thread to no avail.

What eventually fixed this was running the exact same installer again, with the same steps. Rebooted after the second installation and everything is kosher.
 

Tbarr

macrumors member
Mar 27, 2008
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Just wanted to post that I had the 640x480 graphics issue which refused to go away (iMac 24, Core 2 Duo). I tried looking for the "latest Intel driver" which was referenced earlier in the thread to no avail.

What eventually fixed this was running the exact same installer again, with the same steps. Rebooted after the second installation and everything is kosher.
You must have had one of those 'bad', beta, unsigned video drivers installed. Apple fixed that for you. See;
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/475616/#9
 

The Flashing Fi

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Sep 23, 2007
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no HP.. but i installed 4 printers and 5 plotters driver.

that message never showed up before the update.

The reason why I asked is that HP driver caused that same issue:

Try these updates:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...FamilyID=A87B44B9-7A6A-49B6-BD89-AFAD4E049C48

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...b6-03ff-4636-861a-46b3eac7a305&displaylang=en

Also, if you don't use Windows Updates often, I suggest that you do.

Does it say something along the lines of "No audio device detected?"

If you're having trouble with Windows update after installing those updates I provided you with, try this:

http://blog.chaucery.com/archives/2004/10/broken_windows.html
 

Stridder44

macrumors 68040
Mar 24, 2003
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Windows XP if you are gaming. Windows Vista 64-bit if you are doing something else.

BTW, first generation Mac Pro here and I used the stand-alone update from the website. No problems. I am looking forward to SP3 now.

HA. If you're a gamer, you'll want a 64bit OS. Games nowadays are very demanding. 4 GB isn't what it used to be. And if you're going 64bit, your only option is Vista (even Microsoft lovers will admit XP 64-bit sucks). There is so much FUD about Vista, but the truth is since SP1 things have really been awesome (unlike Vista when it was pre-SP1). There is tons of support by developers for Vista x64, lot's of drivers, programs run just fine (the slowdown is like .000001%.) People get all panicy over losing 1 fps in Vista. "OH NOEZ I LOST 1 FPS IN VISTA!!1 OMG VISTA IS TEH SUKZORZ!!1!

People said this same crap when XP came out long ago, "I'll never go to XP, Windows 98 is just fine for me". You heard it first here, Vista x64 will be THE OS for gamers.
 

mzeb

macrumors 6502
Jan 30, 2007
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A couple of small corrections

Okay so here is my understanding, correct me if Im wrong.

You can install Nvidia windows driver on MBP and you wont have problems with compatibility am I correct? Even though Apple uses EFI while PC use PCI-E?.

Parallels and Fusion can run Windows from BootCamp on Mac OS X right? Meaning that you dont need to have 2 different version of XP in your PC (one for boot camp, one for virtualization).

So did I get this correct?

EFI and PCI-E are unrelated and comparing the two is apples to something well out of the fruit category. The EFI is comperable to BIOS on the PC side, and plenty of PCs (especially high end ones) use EFI these days, not just Macs. Both Macs and PCs use PCI-E, which is a hardware expansion interface. If you were on a desktop machine you would be ready to go to install NVidia's base drivers.
Here's the catch: NVidia handed off the writing of laptop video card drivers to the laptop vendor. They don't write them anymore. It wasn't cost effective for them. So the only drivers you can use are those that Apple ships with boot camp.
One last thing that might help in the future. You're Mac's hardware is identical to a PC except for two bits of hardware, the EFI and an apple specific Trusted Platform Module (TPM). When running windows, the TMP is ignored completely and the EFI is emulating an old PC BIOS, so effectively, your Mac is just like any other PC, 100%. No different.

-mzeb
 

The Flashing Fi

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Sep 23, 2007
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Are the memory problems resolved with the 32bit os' with Mac Pros?

What memory problems? You mean only recognizing less than 4 gigs (typically a 3.2-3.5 gig range?). Vista 32-bit will now DISPLAY all 4 gigs, but it will still only use that 3.2-3.5 gigs of RAM. It's not a OS limitation, it's a hardware limitation. The only work around can cause driver problems and system instabilities. Go to Vista 64-bit if you want all your RAM used.
 

ReallyRedCobra

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Apr 16, 2008
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What memory problems? You mean only recognizing less than 4 gigs (typically a 3.2-3.5 gig range?). Vista 32-bit will now DISPLAY all 4 gigs, but it will still only use that 3.2-3.5 gigs of RAM. It's not a OS limitation, it's a hardware limitation. The only work around can cause driver problems and system instabilities. Go to Vista 64-bit if you want all your RAM used.

Yes I know that. It will see 4GB but only use 2gb. Its a known issue.
 

The Flashing Fi

macrumors 6502a
Sep 23, 2007
763
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Yes I know that. It will see 4GB but only use 2gb. Its a known issue.

It uses more than 2gbs of RAM. Whatever Vista showed before SP1 is how much it will use post SP1. It's NOT an "issue." It's a software limitation imposed by the 32-bit architecture that affects ALL 32-bit OSes. The current work arounds hare bad hack jobs that can cause system instability. The only fix it to move to a 64-bit OS.
 

alleycat

macrumors regular
Mar 23, 2008
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HA. If you're a gamer, you'll want a 64bit OS. Games nowadays are very demanding. 4 GB isn't what it used to be. And if you're going 64bit, your only option is Vista (even Microsoft lovers will admit XP 64-bit sucks). There is so much FUD about Vista, but the truth is since SP1 things have really been awesome (unlike Vista when it was pre-SP1). There is tons of support by developers for Vista x64, lot's of drivers, programs run just fine (the slowdown is like .000001%.) People get all panicy over losing 1 fps in Vista. "OH NOEZ I LOST 1 FPS IN VISTA!!1 OMG VISTA IS TEH SUKZORZ!!1!

People said this same crap when XP came out long ago, "I'll never go to XP, Windows 98 is just fine for me". You heard it first here, Vista x64 will be THE OS for gamers.

Good for you, I am so pleased! Some folks enjoy the bloatware of Vista. I didn't after 3 months of it and got rid of it to go back to Windows XP. All my of games old or new work again! ;)
 

Stridder44

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Mar 24, 2003
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Good for you, I am so pleased! Some folks enjoy the bloatware of Vista. I didn't after 3 months of it and got rid of it to go back to Windows XP. All my of games old or new work again! ;)

How do old games not work in Vista? Even Oregon Trail works. Were you just as surprised that OS 9 games could not run under OS X too? Are you trying to run Vista on a system that's 9 years old or something? Did you try it pre-SP1? And please define "bloat". How is it any more "bloated" than OS X? (and don't tell me OS X isn't bloated, what with it's language and driver packs, which yes you can choose not to install, but that is the same case for Vista as well, so that point is moot).
 

KPERI

macrumors newbie
Apr 2, 2008
5
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Vista 64bit

I have iMAC 2.4GHz with Leopard,and i have with bootcamp install Vista Ultimate 32bit.
If i replace the 32 bit vista with the 64bit edition-with clean install-all the hardware of my iMac-bluetooth,wireless,isight.....-will be work correctly in the 64bit vista?
The new update of bootcamp 2.1 64bit vista is for all iMac intel core 2 duo or only for the mac pro?????????
Thanks in advance.:confused::confused::):apple:
 

AJsAWiz

macrumors 68040
Jun 28, 2007
3,268
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How do old games not work in Vista? Even Oregon Trail works. Were you just as surprised that OS 9 games could not run under OS X too? Are you trying to run Vista on a system that's 9 years old or something? Did you try it pre-SP1? And please define "bloat". How is it any more "bloated" than OS X? (and don't tell me OS X isn't bloated, what with it's language and driver packs, which yes you can choose not to install, but that is the same case for Vista as well, so that point is moot).

Yep, all of my older games work under Vista too ;)
 

xgman

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Aug 6, 2007
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It is not installing for me in Windows XP. I am confused. Click and nothing happens.


Same here on Vista 32bit. I think the reason for me is that I used and 2nd pre existing hard drive with vista already on it and not installed using the bootcamp utility. Even after expanding the two files with winrar, one does nothing and the other says no compatable software bla bla found . . .

Anyone shed any light on this scenario?
 

cavebob

macrumors member
Aug 28, 2007
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Wow this update screwed me big time.... I can't connect via wireless and its now slow as ever to start up into windows... Any ideas?
 

xgman

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Aug 6, 2007
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Do we really need to have bootcamp utility and this update? I have no bootcamp service on my vista partition and all drivers updated manually and everything seems to work fine. Why exactly would I even need this update?
 

ervenwill

macrumors newbie
May 5, 2008
4
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I regret updating...

I have a 2.2Ghz SR MBP, running 32bit XP Professional. I updated to Boot Camp 2.1 and ever since, I have been getting freezes. 95% of the time everything is fine but every few minutes, every thing will just freeze, sound stutters, and the CPU pegs up to 100%. This lasts for 10-15 seconds at a time and then everything returns to normal.

Anyone else having this problem here? I googled and found a thread on the apple support pages about it but no answer yet given.

Any ideas??
 

stoker1

macrumors newbie
May 5, 2008
16
1
Questions on iMac 7.1 Leopard and new boot camp w/Vista Premium

Sorry,maybe a newbie question, but I understand trying to accomplish installing this.exe on the Windows side, but one major misunderstanding about Bootcamp remains for me. (just started using Macs only 1 month ago). Doesn't my Leopard have that Boot Camp pre-installed on the OS X side (isn't Boot Camp an Apple program)? So, if I upgrade or install this Boot Camp upgrade on the Windows side, does it go and upgrade the Boot Camp files on the Mac side? I am preparing eventually to start using this Boot Camp, and was wondering, even if I do not use boot camp yet, whether I could upgrade it .? Reason I am asking is that I guess I might have to use Boot Camp soon,, because my Parallels seems to have screwed up on me because of Vista Premium SP1 , and now I have to consider preparing Boot Camp for eventual use.
 

The Flashing Fi

macrumors 6502a
Sep 23, 2007
763
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Sorry,maybe a newbie question, but I understand trying to accomplish installing this.exe on the Windows side, but one major misunderstanding about Bootcamp remains for me. (just started using Macs only 1 month ago). Doesn't my Leopard have that Boot Camp pre-installed on the OS X side (isn't Boot Camp an Apple program)? So, if I upgrade or install this Boot Camp upgrade on the Windows side, does it go and upgrade the Boot Camp files on the Mac side? I am preparing eventually to start using this Boot Camp, and was wondering, even if I do not use boot camp yet, whether I could upgrade it .? Reason I am asking is that I guess I might have to use Boot Camp soon,, because my Parallels seems to have screwed up on me because of Vista Premium SP1 , and now I have to consider preparing Boot Camp for eventual use.

On the Mac side, all BootCamp is, is a partitioner. It partitions (splits) the hard drive so that Windows can be installed. There's really nothing to update, unless they were to add features to the partitioner.
 
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