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[Eddyisgreat]

I myself have been using PC for about the same time as you. I have never gotten a virus because I know what to do to avoid them. Most of the viruses are made for Pc's. Why? Because 90% of the market uses PC.

I wish apple would stop playing the "virus card", and the "BSOD card", because if they had equal market share they would have the same problems as PC. As you can clearly see...=

Apples marketshare can approach 100% and they will never have the issues that Windows has at its core. Shoddy drivers that fight with each other because vendors are too lazy to write decent drivers and are more concerned about outdating their hardware forcing you to buy the latest version. Most WHQL certified drivers blow chunks too. Apple will still sport the same line up, and these same computers will show up under the identifier as "Macbook/Macbook Pro/Mac Pro 4.x" or whatever, instead of "Apple Presario 892738xxv90283x hyper dv super awsome bitchin edition."

Besides that box in your screen shot could have froze for a myriad of reasons. Embarrassing, I agree, but in my various years of OS X'ing i've only had a few GSoD, but when they do happen man I get ANGRY .

Oh, by the way. That RSPlug Trojan you are talking about requires authentication and a fair degree of user interaction. Just like every other trojan out there.

 

[DMann]

Most of the viruses are made for Pc's. Why? Because 90% of the market uses PC.

I wish apple would stop playing the "virus card", and the "BSOD card", because if they had equal market share they would have the same problems as PC. As you can clearly see...

The problem with this submissive point of view as to why Windows is laden with viruses, is that back when OS 9 had 12+% US market share, there were over 900 viruses written for the OS. Now that OS X has approached 10% here in the US, not one successful virus has been executed to date. If you believe that the droves of Windows viruses are not due to the fact that they have been so easy to implement, execute, and proliferate in Windows, despite the 90% market share, you are only kidding yourself.

 

[lex750]

Dear God, say it isn't so!!​

At least one can choose 'Cancel' or 'Eject Disk Image' in OS X to avoid being shut-down

How do I choose, "'Cancel' or 'Eject Disk Image'" when I get this message?

 

[lex750]

Apples marketshare can approach 100% and they will never have the issues that Windows has at its core. Shoddy drivers that fight with each other because vendors are too lazy to write decent drivers and are more concerned about outdating their hardware forcing you to buy the latest version. Most WHQL certified drivers blow chunks too. Apple will still sport the same line up, and these same computers will show up under the identifier as "Macbook/Macbook Pro/Mac Pro 4.x" or whatever, instead of "Apple Presario 892738xxv90283x hyper dv super awsome bitchin edition."

Besides that box in your screen shot could have froze for a myriad of reasons. Embarrassing, I agree, but in my various years of OS X'ing i've only had a few GSoD, but when they do happen man I get ANGRY .

Oh, by the way. That RSPlug Trojan you are talking about requires authentication and a fair degree of user interaction. Just like every other trojan out there.

Is a Mac safe from PC viruses?

"Yes, a Mac is 100 percent safe from viruses designed to attack PCs. And although no computer connected to the Internet is completely immune to all viruses and spyware, the Mac is built on a solid UNIX foundation and designed with security in mind. The Mac web browser, Safari, alerts you whenever you’re downloading an application — even if it’s disguised as a picture or movie file. And Apple continually makes free security updates available for Mac owners. You can even have them download automatically."

http://www.apple.com/getamac/faq/

"Mac is 100 percent safe from viruses designed to attack PCs."

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

The fact is that this ad implies that Macs don't get viruses. Which is false advertising and a lie.

 

[itsmenyc]

Agreed, they are getting increasingly as well.

Instead of all this "Mac's just work" stuff, why don't they start talking 8 hour batteries and aluminum bodies?

How is stating facts "mean spirited and pretentious"?

 

[itsmenyc]

The fact is that this ad implies that Macs don't get viruses. Which is false advertising and a lie.

Is it? Give us one real life example then...

 

[itsmenyc]

How do I choose, "'Cancel' or 'Eject Disk Image'" when I get this message?

That's another issue.

How about you go trolling some other site...

 

[lex750]

That's another issue.

How about you go trolling some other site...

How about sticking to the subject? Truth in advertising? Sorry, I'm not a fanboy, I call a spade a spade when I see one.

 

[itsmenyc]

I myself have been using PC for about the same time as you. I have never gotten a virus because I know what to do to avoid them. Most of the viruses are made for Pc's. Why? Because 90% of the market uses PC.

I wish apple would stop playing the "virus card", and the "BSOD card", because if they had equal market share they would have the same problems as PC. As you can clearly see...

Apple had 90% of the over $1000 computer market in the US in June, so why doesn't it have a comparable percentage of viruses?

 

[DMann]

How about sticking to the subject? Truth in advertising?

The fact is that this ad implies that Macs don't get viruses. Which is false advertising and a lie.

There's nothing untrue about it - you cannot provide one real life example. To date, no human has successfully cross-breeded with a dolphin either. Until then, the statement stands as truth.

 

[itsmenyc]

How about sticking to the subject? Truth in advertising?

Still waiting for your example of a real life Mac virus. Come up with that then we can talk about truth in advertising. Instead you're just regurgitating bogus Microsoft propaganda.

Sad...

 

[itsmenyc]

There's nothing untrue about it - you cannot provide one real life example. To date, no human has successfully cross-breeded with a dolphin either. Until then, the statement stands as truth.

Well actually that's not true, my third cousin Billie Jean on that drunken Spring Break trip to Florida...

 

[lex750]

Apple had 90% of the over $1000 computer market in the US in June, so why doesn't it have a comparable percentage of viruses?

If you can't back that up with a credible source (link). It never happened.

 

[lex750]

Still waiting for your example of a real life Mac virus. Come up with that then we can talk about truth in advertising. Instead you're just regurgitating bogus Microsoft propaganda.

Sad...

here you go...

1 - http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/a/inqtanaa.htm

2 - http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/p/oompa.htm

3 - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517610,00.html

I've got more if you need "proof". Don't be lazy just "goolge it".

 

[DMann]

If you can't back that up with a credible source (link). It never happened.

Turns out you are correct, we were mistaken - Apple has 91% of market for $1,000+ PCs, not 90%

Well actually that's not true, my third cousin Billie Jean on that drunken Spring Break trip to Florida...

 

[Eddyisgreat]

Is a Mac safe from PC viruses?

"Yes, a Mac is 100 percent safe from viruses designed to attack PCs. And although no computer connected to the Internet is completely immune to all viruses and spyware, the Mac is built on a solid UNIX foundation and designed with security in mind. The Mac web browser, Safari, alerts you whenever you’re downloading an application — even if it’s disguised as a picture or movie file. And Apple continually makes free security updates available for Mac owners. You can even have them download automatically."

http://www.apple.com/getamac/faq/

"Mac is 100 percent safe from viruses designed to attack PCs."

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

The fact is that this ad implies that Macs don't get viruses. Which is false advertising and a lie.

Sorry. Show me a virus that will infect all my machines with ZERO interaction after one has been compromised.

 

[lex750]

Turns out you are correct, we were mistaken - Apple has 91% of market for $1,000+ PCs, not 90%

OK so they have 91% of a market on PC over $1000, which is only 15% or less of the PC market.

MOST PC and netbooks sell way under $1000.

So the point here is? Just because you sell 91% of a less than 15% market means nothing. Who is selling more volume in the long run?

Please, you can start using your brain at any time. Thanks.

 

[lex750]

Sorry. Show me a virus that will infect all my machines with ZERO interaction after one has been compromised.

You are being peevish.

Maybe you want a PC virus that makes your microwave explode.

Hey anything is possible.

 

[itsmenyc]

here you go...

1 - http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/a/inqtanaa.htm

2 - http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/p/oompa.htm

3 - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517610,00.html

I've got more if you need "proof". Don't be lazy just "goolge it".

When you "goolge" something you might want to read through the article instead of just streaming headlines.

Last paragraph of the article in question:

While the security experts probably won't come out and say it, this whole scare appears to be an elaborate to provide "conceptual truth" --ie: hackers attempting to put perceived snooty Mac users in their place by highlighting the fact that their (news flash) operating system of choice isn't so secure after all.

This is exactly what this story turned out to be: Bogus

 

[Eddyisgreat]

here you go...

1 - http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/a/inqtanaa.htm

Inqtana spreads as an OBEX Push request. If the user accepts the data transfer, the worm exploits the directory traversal vulnerability to install itself, after which it then begins searching for other susceptible devices that will accept OBEX Push transfers.

2 - http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/p/oompa.htm

The sent attachment is named latestpics.tgz. The extracted latestpics.tgz file contains latestpics, which appears to have a .jpg icon. In reality, the icon is being faked by a second, hidden file, named _latestpics. (hint, it sends itself, user accepts file transfer and runs said file)

3 - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517610,00.html

This is the same user installed trojan that has been talked about for ages. Give me a break.

I've got more if you need "proof". Don't be lazy just "goolge it".

First, you misspelled "google", and second you may want to look up the definition of virus before you spout off this trash. I'll use this one because its the easiest to understand.

A computer virus is a computer program that can copy itself and infect a computer without the permission or knowledge of the owner.

Now, I will ask this question of all of you AGAIN. Show me a virus written for OS X that can infect my networked Macs after a single machine has been infected within the trusted network. Good luck with that. I've been asking for a true example for what, five pages now, and all you idiots can spout off is a trojan in a pirated app. LoL gtfo with that.

You are being peevish.

Maybe you want a PC virus that makes your microwave explode.

Hey anything is possible.

Peevish? Nah. I'm trying to make you look better, honestly. You say viruses exist for the Mac OS , and i'm simply saying show me one. Put up or shut up and stop posting examples you know that don't meet the criteria. Its undermining your intellect and making it harder to take you seriously.

 

[lex750]

First, you misspelled "google"

Like a typ-o is an issue, but if you wanna make it just to prove your point they feel free.

 

[Eddyisgreat]

First, you misspelled "google"

Like a typ-o is an issue, but if you wanna make it just to prove your point they feel free.

::listens::

What is that faint noise...could it be the hollowness of your argument? Are you gonna give me some proof now or what???

 

[DMann]

OK so they have 91% of a market on PC over $1000, which is only 15% or less of the PC market.

MOST PC and netbooks sell way under $1000.

So the point here is? Just because you sell 91% of a less than 15% market means nothing. Who is selling more volume in the long run?

Please, you can start using your brain at any time. Thanks.

Perhaps you can acquire a brain, and re-read the previous post, which you neither addressed nor answered :

The problem with this submissive point of view as to why Windows is laden with viruses, is that back when OS 9 had 12+% US market share, there were over 900 viruses written for the OS. Now that OS X has approached 10% here in the US, not one successful virus has been executed to date. If you believe that the droves of Windows viruses are not due to the fact that they have been so easy to implement, execute, and proliferate in Windows, despite the 90% market share, you are only kidding yourself.

 

[itsmenyc]

OK so they 91% of a market which is only 15% or less of the PC market.

MOST PC and netbooks sell way under $1000.

So the point here is? Just because you sell 91% of a less than 15% market means nothing. Who is selling more volume in the long run?

Please, you can start using your brain at any time. Thanks.

No one has questioned who is selling more volume right now, so what's your point?

If you knew anything about PCs and Macs you would know that the basic architecture makes the Mac more secure. It has nothing to do with numbers.

Why is it that insecure PC guys feel the need to come on here and distort the truth about Macs to make themselves feel better about using PCs?

 

[lex750]

Inqtana spreads as an OBEX Push request. If the user accepts the data transfer, the worm exploits the directory traversal vulnerability to install itself, after which it then begins searching for other susceptible devices that will accept OBEX Push transfers.


The sent attachment is named latestpics.tgz. The extracted latestpics.tgz file contains latestpics, which appears to have a .jpg icon. In reality, the icon is being faked by a second, hidden file, named _latestpics. (hint, it sends itself, user accepts file transfer and runs said file)


This is the same user installed trojan that has been talked about for ages. Give me a break.



First, you misspelled "google", and second you may want to look up the definition of virus before you spout off this trash. I'll use this one because its the easiest to understand.



Now, I will ask this question of all of you AGAIN. Show me a virus written for OS X that can infect my networked Macs after a single machine has been infected within the trusted network. Good luck with that. I've been asking for a true example for what, five pages now, and all you idiots can spout off is a trojan in a pirated app. LoL gtfo with that.



Peevish? Nah. I'm trying to make you look better, honestly. You say viruses exist for the Mac OS , and i'm simply saying show me one. Put up or shut up and stop posting examples you know that don't meet the criteria. Its undermining your intellect and making it harder to take you seriously.

Is a Mac safe from PC viruses?

"Yes, a Mac is 100 percent safe from viruses designed to attack PCs. And although no computer connected to the Internet is completely immune to all viruses and spyware, the Mac is built on a solid UNIX foundation and designed with security in mind. The Mac web browser, Safari, alerts you whenever you’re downloading an application — even if it’s disguised as a picture or movie file. And Apple continually makes free security updates available for Mac owners. You can even have them download automatically."

http://www.apple.com/getamac/faq/

I guess it's not enough hearing it from Apple themselves to satisfy you.