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All teachers in University of Montreal get a free laptop every two or three years. My music teacher was Mac guy. His wife is also a teacher and she is a Mac. The university is offering PC or a Mac Pro and he is going to get the PC. It may be hard for some people to believe that, but he won't get a Mac even if it is given.
I like the iPhone and I think it is great, but I don't see any interest in getting a Mac if I have Windows 7.
I switched to a mac simply because of the build quality. OSX simply came with it. 
I've been pounding on this thing 12 hours a day for the last 8 months and it just doesn't wear out. Let "Lauren" try that with her cheap-assed HP.
As far as the ads go... do you guys realize how much brand awareness these things are responsible for? The 2 guys are so engrained with Apple I'm surprised they can get other work. I think the ads are great. Even as a one time diehard windows user I always secretly rooted for, "Mac".
I've been pounding on this thing 12 hours a day for the last 8 months and it just doesn't wear out. Let "Lauren" try that with her cheap-assed HP. As far as the ads go... do you guys realize how much brand awareness these things are responsible for? The 2 guys are so engrained with Apple I'm surprised they can get other work. I think the ads are great. Even as a one time diehard windows user I always secretly rooted for, "Mac".
I work in a medical company and sell medical PC software. It is not funny anymore how restricted they are to avoid viruses.
Last time in Sweden with all their regulation an protections 1000's of PC in different hospitals were infected. They suspected that somebody put a memory stick into one of the PC. The rest is history.
I'm sorry I think you want to protect your business and build cheap PC's. The reality is in my opinion not that cheap if you look at the total cost for support.
I agree that stand alone users with low budget and for less critical work are better off with cheaper PC's. But even those people get hit with tremendous problems because of viruses.
True, but putting it all together is not equal. Dell vs. HP vs. Sony vs. Asus vs. Apple vs etc. I'm very sure that satisfaction levels are vastly different between identical models, let alone between their different lines, and as well as between the different companies. On the other hand, I feel that with Apple laptops it's more consistent (whether that level is bad or good). Again, a side effect of limited customization.
I would blame systems administration for the incident you mention. We all know viruses exist and they are out there. There is no excuse for thousands of hospital, or corporate PC's to become infected. We have thousands of computers on our network. The last time we had a major virus/worm breakout was about 8-9 years ago. We did not take virus threats as serious back then, but we learned our lesson. Since then we have had no downtime issues caused by viruses. We get an occasional isolated infection that the anti-virus catches, but that is it. In this day-in-age there is no excuse to let thousands of business systems to get infected other than poor systems administration. Anti-virus works. It is a must for every business computer. If a virus infects that many computers and all have up-to-date antivirus software, then that is just really bad luck.
A better ending that would never happen...
Top O'the Line PC reaches into his jacket and pulls out a condom, offering it to the redhead.
"When you're ready to compromise, bring this with ya."
Top O'the Line PC reaches into his jacket and pulls out a condom, offering it to the redhead.
"When you're ready to compromise, bring this with ya."
And that is why there is resistance to change.
Once you go Microsoft, you have job security.
Didn't see any mention of a virus in your links.
I love when I see comments like this. Many individuals are infected and they don't even know it. They assume that because they have software to protect them, it does.
Case in point, many PC centric organizations have banned USB Thumb Drive due to malware issues.
Funny. But then again, not so funny when you think about it.
Anyhow, I think both ads illustrate these issues well.
What I find really interesting is seeing where an organization switches to the Mac platform and how the die hard PC users awaking to the ease and simplicity of using the Mac platform. Both commercials illustrate this.
Apple needs to start making some kind of 'ingenious' ads now - smarter ads like Volkswagen (in Europe anyway) that reflect in a clever way the smarter design and overall better experience.
This snide superiority stuff is getting a little vulgar now. Really, I don't want to see anymore of them.
Jobs has already recognized the parallels between Apple and Mercedes/BMW - Apple should follow the car ads.
This snide superiority stuff is getting a little vulgar now. Really, I don't want to see anymore of them.
Jobs has already recognized the parallels between Apple and Mercedes/BMW - Apple should follow the car ads.
Hahahahahahahaha. The poster you "responded" to asked for the same thing I did. A bonafied self proliferating V-I-R-U-S that requires no user interaction.
Can we please cut the crap. Someone please show me an actual virus for OS X, please. I'm like literally begging you guys because every time this argument (Apple says no viruses) everyone either says
A) There are Apple viruses
B) Apple marketshare is too small for virus writers
C) There are Apple viruses, see look heres a trojan that requires user interaction(wtf?)
to which I say
A) Show me one. A dmg, a downloadable link, reproducible steps. A virus that would infect every one of my networked macs in a stealth-like fashion with no interaction.
B) Since when is 8-10% small? Its an untapped market and apparently is "ripe for pickings," yet no ones taken the plunge. Guess everyone is afraid of jobs?
C) Your house is secure until you give a thief a key to your house.
Wow some guy gained root access to a box over three years ago, and yet "Gwerdna" doesn't have the gonads to utilize his hack in a blackhat fashion, or sell it to the highest bidder? Wonder why.
Charlie Miller is another academic type who does lab studies but we havn't seen any of his work on the field (atleast I haven't). If this exploit was "tits" script kiddies would be able to go to astalavista.box.sk and get the info on how to exploit it themselves.
Yeah. OS X is so unsecure that a user-installed trojan from a PIRATED DOWNLOAD made HEADLINES. Mac anti virus writers had a hayday on that one. I bet they even released it to drum up some revenue. Look, I can hook a script (that erases the home directory) on the back of an installer and release it to the interwebz just like anyone else, which doesn't make it a virus or a hack or an exploit.
Can we please cut the crap. Someone please show me an actual virus for OS X, please. I'm like literally begging you guys because every time this argument (Apple says no viruses) everyone either says
A) There are Apple viruses
B) Apple marketshare is too small for virus writers
C) There are Apple viruses, see look heres a trojan that requires user interaction(wtf?)
to which I say
A) Show me one. A dmg, a downloadable link, reproducible steps. A virus that would infect every one of my networked macs in a stealth-like fashion with no interaction.
B) Since when is 8-10% small? Its an untapped market and apparently is "ripe for pickings," yet no ones taken the plunge. Guess everyone is afraid of jobs?
C) Your house is secure until you give a thief a key to your house.
I hate it how 90% of the time the apple ads always target viruses on windows. There are so many other problems they could make ads about.
Plus to be honest with you 99.99% of all people who get a virus just do not know how to use computers and avoid viruses that well. I consider my self a computer enthusiast and have no need for an antivirus on my pc. In almost 15 years of owning my own pc's i have never had a virus because i know how to avoid them.
Some of my friends on the other hand just open and click whatever pop up or email attatchement they want. That is just stupid and no operating system can stop the users stupidity no matter how many pop ups there are saying "this program could harm your computer"
Gotta agree though macs are better at stopping viruses getting through but if over 60% of users switched to mac today there would be loads of viruses for mac tommorrow.
Once my wife came in and asked me if i knew that my relative in africa had died and left me $300000000000000000
Plus to be honest with you 99.99% of all people who get a virus just do not know how to use computers and avoid viruses that well. I consider my self a computer enthusiast and have no need for an antivirus on my pc. In almost 15 years of owning my own pc's i have never had a virus because i know how to avoid them.
Some of my friends on the other hand just open and click whatever pop up or email attatchement they want. That is just stupid and no operating system can stop the users stupidity no matter how many pop ups there are saying "this program could harm your computer"
Gotta agree though macs are better at stopping viruses getting through but if over 60% of users switched to mac today there would be loads of viruses for mac tommorrow.
Once my wife came in and asked me if i knew that my relative in africa had died and left me $300000000000000000
I went to the local Microcenter today (Madison Heights) to buy a wireless USB adapter for my Tvix. While I was there I checked out the Apple section which buy the way was empty.
I was messing around with a 13.3" macbook and I have to say Apple's laptops are stunning. It's easily the best looking laptop on the market, unfortunately it was $1499. They also had the Mac Mini on sale for $499 which isn't bad.
If apple were smart they would show their products in their ads instead of continuing this hatefull smear campaign. It's gotten to the point where Apple seems obsessed with MS.
The laptop hunters ads are alot classier than the Get A Mac ads and I respect MS for not resorting to these juvenile smear tactics.
I was messing around with a 13.3" macbook and I have to say Apple's laptops are stunning. It's easily the best looking laptop on the market, unfortunately it was $1499. They also had the Mac Mini on sale for $499 which isn't bad.
If apple were smart they would show their products in their ads instead of continuing this hatefull smear campaign. It's gotten to the point where Apple seems obsessed with MS.
The laptop hunters ads are alot classier than the Get A Mac ads and I respect MS for not resorting to these juvenile smear tactics.
Have you seen the keynote videos? They spend as much time bashing MS as they do talking about their own stuff.
I hate it how 90% of the time the apple ads always target viruses on windows. There are so many other problems they could make ads about.
Plus to be honest with you 99.99% of all people who get a virus just do not know how to use computers and avoid viruses that well. I consider my self a computer enthusiast and have no need for an antivirus on my pc. In almost 15 years of owning my own pc's i have never had a virus because i know how to avoid them.
Some of my friends on the other hand just open and click whatever pop up or email attatchement they want. That is just stupid and no operating system can stop the users stupidity no matter how many pop ups there are saying "this program could harm your computer"
Gotta agree though macs are better at stopping viruses getting through but if over 60% of users switched to mac today there would be loads of viruses for mac tommorrow.
Once my wife came in and asked me if i knew that my relative in africa had died and left me $300000000000000000
I myself have been using PC for about the same time as you. I have never gotten a virus because I know what to do to avoid them. Most of the viruses are made for Pc's. Why? Because 90% of the market uses PC.
I wish apple would stop playing the "virus card", and the "BSOD card", because if they had equal market share they would have the same problems as PC. As you can clearly see...
Is Mac OS X on the malware, virus, hit list? New in Snow Leopard 10.6 "virus protection"?
Which makes this ad misleading and not too smart of a choice to air.
http://blog.intego.com/2009/08/25/snow-leopard-contains-an-antivirus/
Is a Mac safe from PC viruses?
"Yes, a Mac is 100 percent safe from viruses designed to attack PCs. And although no computer connected to the Internet is completely immune to all viruses and spyware, the Mac is built on a solid UNIX foundation and designed with security in mind. The Mac web browser, Safari, alerts you whenever you’re downloading an application — even if it’s disguised as a picture or movie file. And Apple continually makes free security updates available for Mac owners. You can even have them download automatically."
http://www.apple.com/getamac/faq/
"Mac is 100 percent safe from viruses designed to attack PCs."
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
Dear God, say it isn't so!!
At least one can choose 'Cancel' or 'Eject Disk Image' in OS X to avoid being shut-down
Dear God, say it isn't so!!
and your posting this because? yes windows also crashes. especially when you are running it in a virtual machine. so, what's your point?
Actually, in my experience, Windows has been much more stable using virtualization software. Not sure why.