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BornAgainMac

macrumors 604
Feb 4, 2004
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Florida Resident
The majority of PC users are ignorant. I can see why they have to play these types of ads for years. It is not for the fanboys or the people that know what is going on. The Microsoft ads were targeting the same person. A computer with a fast processor... come on.
 

mabaker

macrumors 65816
Jan 19, 2008
1,215
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I'm SO amazed at some ppl coming here claiming that Windows7 is all the Holy Grailz of the Internetz without taking into account that it's not even out yet! Windows has still a long way to go to match Mac OS X's elegance and simplicity.

It so reminds me of the Vista release days. :D
 

billystlyes

macrumors 6502a
Jul 5, 2004
569
6
Sorry, but those were really lame.They'll need to do better come the 22nd of Oct. It's time to start talking features.
 

phobic99

macrumors 6502a
Mar 3, 2008
710
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Wow I can't believe they've been running these since 2006!

And they're still using the virus schtick too. I'm assuming most of us enjoy using Macs and all but it's really time for some new material IMO. *shrug*

Doesn't really matter to me in the end though, as I'll continue to use PCs alongside my Macs for the foreseeable future.

I'm SO amazed at some ppl coming here claiming that Windows7 is all the Holy Grailz of the Internetz without taking into account that it's not even out yet! Windows has still a long way to go to match Mac OS X's elegance and simplicity.

It so reminds me of the Vista release days. :D

Windows 7 has been publicly available as a download that anyone could try for free. That program was only recently stopped by Microsoft as of last week so I'd assume that most of the people that tried it, actually liked what they saw even though the code wasn't final. I'd assume most of the people here that are talking about Windows 7 have used the beta/release candidate to base their opinion on.
 

djellison

macrumors 68020
Feb 2, 2007
2,229
4
Pasadena CA
Tired same old stereotype pushing lie filled crap.

It's the constant perpetuation of the mac user as the trendy, smug arrogant *** that does much damage to the Mac brand.

Furthermore, it's the continued lies in these adverts that also does the same. People watching it will go "Well - I've not had 1000's of viruses, and I'm £1000 better off than buying a 17" mac laptop"

The adverts make me cringe. They make me embarrassed to own a mac.
 

iSlave

macrumors 6502
Jun 19, 2007
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Yawn. Stale ads. Apple needs to start selling the features of Macs, and really stop relying on this tired old 'oooh scary viruses' crap. They have no problem selling the features of the iPhone or iPod Touch in their ads, so why is the Mac being left out? Maybe the advantages to a Mac are somehow less easy to explain in a quick ad...
 

kornyboy

macrumors 68000
Sep 27, 2004
1,529
0
Knoxville, TN (USA)
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I agree with you guys. Surprise is a good one. Top of the Line is pretty good too. They are really harping on the virus and just working thing right now.
 

nick9191

macrumors 68040
Feb 17, 2008
3,405
307
Britain
The last 3 ads have been exactly the same, minus a few small differences.

I want a computer with a fast processor and a big screen
Look at this PC
And I don't want 1000's of viruses and a ton of headaches.
Get a Mac.

Think of something new Apple.

Hey does anyone else think that the mac at the end of this ad could be a 10" MACBOOK PRO??? Or is it just me...

punch.gif
 

BongoBanger

macrumors 68000
Feb 5, 2008
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I'm SO amazed at some ppl coming here claiming that Windows7 is all the Holy Grailz of the Internetz without taking into account that it's not even out yet! Windows has still a long way to go to match Mac OS X's elegance and simplicity.

It so reminds me of the Vista release days. :D

Aside from W7 being available as a Beta, RC and RTM for months you mean?

The majority of PC users are ignorant.

Absolutely. This of course applies to all personal computer variants be they Windows OEMs or Macs.

As for Windows 7 - well, the jury is out for that one, nobody knows just yet. You could argue that whilst people are out there shopping for their next computer, they may decide to switch to Mac.

Some will the vast majority will not.

Windows 7, is STILL Windows, that is it's problem. The core foundation still relies on Vista - that is still it's problem. It is still vulnerable to viruses and malware and Trojans etc.

I think you'll find that any operating system is vulnerable to malware and trojans.

So to answer your point, we don't know yet whether Windows 7 will hurt Apple at all.

I don't think it will to be honest although I suspect it'll curtail their growth.
 

L0s7man

macrumors 6502
Feb 26, 2009
276
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Kind of funny, but not very inventive. Repeating "no viruses or headaches" over and over and over in their last ads. It might be true, but it doesn't change the fact that it's not very entertaining!
 

iGary

Guest
May 26, 2004
19,580
7
Randy's House
As much as people like to hate on these ads, they work.

When I worked at the Apple Store, people that came in looking for a Mac loved these ads. In many cases, these ads are what got them in the door.
 

*LTD*

macrumors G4
Feb 5, 2009
10,703
1
Canada
Answers in bold.

What's your point? There are so many awards these days, you can win one for anything, and because there are so many their value is decreased. If it's easy to win an award, it's no longer an honor.

It's easy to win an award? That's your answer??

Well duh, Macs are Apple's most expensive products. Where else is there revenue going to come from? Selling 2 million iPhones probably brings in less revenue than selling 1 million Macs. Don't quote me on that, it's a wild but educated guess.

Ok.


That's because they're pretty and Apple has a good reputation. If Vista didn't have such a horrible reputation, the general public's opinion of Windows wouldn't be so bad. And Apple's not the reason for Windows' reputation, they only push what others have said.

Windows has had a lousy reputation long before Vista. Windows was something you simply had to live with.


That's because all of their notebooks ARE $1000+. (There is the $999.99 MacBook, but one cent under $1000 doesn't make a big difference)

There are plenty of other notebooks from generic box makers that are $1000+.


I never said they're not working, by calling the ads "bad" I wasn't referring to their effectiveness, but referring to the quality of them. (Quality in this case meaning the dialogue and point)

You're making no sense here. The "dialogue and point" are central to whether they are effective or not. You're getting caught up in your own logic here (or lack thereof.)


By definition, there is no such thing as a "wrong" opinion. If you don't accept that fact then I wouldn't have a need to address your post.

There is, however, such a thing as an uninformed opinion.


Anyways, I don't see why you are even mentioning the App Store or retail stores, because these ads have nothing to do with them. Is Apple making money? Yes. Is it because of the Get-a-Mac ads? Not necessarily. Word of mouth is a powerful marketing tool as well, and that's the reason most people I know are interested in Macs, if they have any interest at all. It is not because Apple says "Macs are speedy and virus-free," it's because they've heard about Macs from other people with good experiences, or have had an especially bad experience with Windows. That may be a very, very slim fraction of the population, but it is still a fraction.

Alright. But that still doesn't discount the ads. By all accounts, you simply can't deny that the ads are working. You're discounting them simply because they're not to your tastes.


Personally, I find the ads repulsive. It's this that gives Mac users a reputation as being stuck up and pretentious.

Boo-hoo. So what. That's hardly a horrible reputation to have!! Apparently, there are studies and reports out there that state we're also smarter and make more money. And why not? Works for me!

Know what I find repulsive? Microsoft's entire Laptop Hunters campaign. Yeah, please show me more of low-brow, middle-class America in a dirty outlet store sifting through the bargain-bin! MS is going right for the bottom of the barrel with these. MS takes its target demographic for complete losers. Who the hell would want to be associated with THAT?? Yuck.

Apple's ads consistently make the competition look cheap, low-class, and out of touch. Once you accomplish this, you simply ride it for all it's worth. Never mind talking about a list of features. The "features" that Apple talks about are simple. The main feature of a Mac is: far fewer problems than a PC, both in terms of malware and ease of use. *That is all the average user needs to know, and nothing more.* It's a simple message. It's clear and consistent. And it's wrapped in some fun humour, that is by now very familiar to people. It's the tech world's Odd Couple. They aren't in some outlet store surrounded by ugly people with blank expressions on their faces. They're on a simple, tasteful white background with a few props and some nice effects. Very slick.

By now we're used to them and the actors and their antics are immediately familiar.

Exactly the way it should be.

Brilliant advertising.

 

ratGT

macrumors member
Jun 30, 2007
38
0
Greece & Sweden
Rest in Peace!

I've purchased a Macbook, iMac, and an iPhone. All I have left is the phone, and I'll get rid of that as soon as my contract is up (it constantly freezes up). OSX is overrated IMHO. I couldn't be productive without windows, it didn't make sense to spend so much money when a windows pc does the work I need it to do just fine.

Just purchased a new Quad-Core i7, 9gig RAm, BlueRay, kick-ass video card for $1100. It would have cost over $3,000 for a comperable Mac. Not for me.

I feel sorry you, I really do! You had a chance to escape hell, but your Windows blindness really over-took you... 'rest in peace!'...
 

mandis

macrumors regular
Feb 18, 2005
225
0
UK
I'm SO amazed at some ppl coming here claiming that Windows7 is all the Holy Grailz of the Internetz without taking into account that it's not even out yet! Windows has still a long way to go to match Mac OS X's elegance and simplicity.

It so reminds me of the Vista release days. :D

Windows 7 RC has been out and freely available for months now. Maybe you should give it a go before making accusations. Obviously people who come here own macs and enjoy using osx but this does not mean that other oss are in any way inferior.

From my experience windows 7 is actually pretty damn good and a direct competitor to leopard in terms of funcionality, simplicity and 'elegance' although this is entirely subjective.

In any case I think the new mac ads are hideous and fail to address the issues microsoft raised with their laptop hunter ads. To claim that windows vista pcs suffer from thousands of viruses is simply untrue as i have never come across a vista virus in the 2.5 years that i have used this os. In other words apple cannot justify the price premium on their computers so they simply make up stuff to undermine the competition...
 

Lesser Evets

macrumors 68040
Jan 7, 2006
3,527
1,295
After 3 years, these ads still piss off PC users as bad as day 1.

If Apple had an Apple logo on a blank white screen for 15 seconds, PC users would get intensely pissed. It's hilarious.
 

organerito

macrumors 6502
Nov 9, 2008
414
31
It is getting really boring and depressing. They have billions in the bank and that's all they can come up with!!!
 

mkwomble

macrumors member
Jul 16, 2008
30
0
Has anyone ever met a PC user that switched to a Mac and didn't like it? I haven't. All of these PC users that dog on Macs probably haven't even tried a Mac. They just put up with the crappy user experience that PCs offer and assume that all computers are the same. Apple should run a campaign with interviews with former PC users. The whole pissing match gets a bit annoying, really. I'm a lifelong Mac user and, yes, a fanboy. But, it's crazy to me how many PC users dog on Macs without even trying them. I've used both and have stuck with the one that I prefer most. At least try both before you defend Windows so much, people!

I switched to Mac after getting on well with one for a few years at my old job, i then bought a mac for business and a ton of software to go with it, CS3, QUARK, Etc.... i now realise i could have actually saved a load of money and had the same result if i had just built my own PC and saved the extortionate price of the mac. So for the moment im stuck with my imac and macbook pro which are good, and do the job, dont get me wrong.

Worth the money? Not at all.

Will probobly switch back to PC when i need to upgrade software next time.

I guess i find OSX too robotic for me, Windows has some personality to it which i quite like.
 

moracity

macrumors member
Nov 1, 2007
42
0
Working at a computer store, I know this:

People often think Macs are expensive.
But people always know that PCs have more problems.

And because of that, we sell more Macs than PCs. Simply put, these commercials work. Keep rubbing in the virus issues, and people will always be reminded about how much their PC sucks. Apple doesn't need to show off their products as much as people say: showing how BAD the competition's products are has a much stronger effect. And then impress the customer once they've shown interest. That's what reels them in.

Agreed. I'm converting friends and family one by one as they become fed up with viruses and other software just making their PC's unusable. My "support" calls have been eliminated. My mom is the last hold-out because she still has it in her mind that Macs are expensive. If she doesn't have one by Xmas, I'm getting her one.

We're also, slowly but surely, converting everyone at the office. Eventually, we hope to replace all work PCs with Macs.
 

kernkraft

macrumors 68020
Jun 25, 2009
2,456
1
Tons of headaches? Viruses? Nope, just 3 years old smugness on Apple's part.

I can't believe that Apple is still running these smug, arrogant and pretty annoying ads. Who else in the industry is running the same campaign for this long? Frankly, I think it is not about uniqueness, but being dated and out of touch.

Tons of headaches? Let me tell you, what has been causing me 'tons of headaches'! CPU whine on my MB Air, cracked parts on my cheap-looking white MB, constant fan noise on several MBs and MB Pros... And finally, paying an absolute fortune for the privilege of having misaligned keys on my 2.4GHz MB, which had the poorest screen I have ever seen on a laptop in that category. My three weeks old renamed MBP has also got heat issues. Which sweatshop cannot apply just enough heat-putty?

Apple shouldn't give lessons to other manufacturers. If it's so confident, why not let other manufacturers put OS X on their hardware?

The virus thing is also a bit annoying. Why do they sell antivirus software on Apple's website and in Apple Stores, if it is not an issue? It sounds odd, but I am looking forward to see the day of the first Mac virus outbreak. Don't spit on me too much, I'm not a terrorist, just don't like smugs and hypocrites.
 

*LTD*

macrumors G4
Feb 5, 2009
10,703
1
Canada
I can't believe that Apple is still running these smug, arrogant and pretty annoying ads. Who else in the industry is running the same campaign for this long?

Who else is as successful as Apple? Apple easily makes the most desirable products in the industry today. So why change the ads? Because die-hard Windows-sufferers posing as "objective" tech users (yeah, right) find them hurtful? :D
 

LagunaSol

macrumors 601
Apr 3, 2003
4,798
0
Instead of all this "Mac's just work" stuff, why don't they start talking 8 hour batteries and aluminum bodies?

Because Windows users are aching for computers that "just work" and Apple wants them to know there's an alternative that could ease their agony? Who cares about aluminum when your computer is crippled with spyware?

And what's "pretentious" about talking about computers that don't suck?
 
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