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Bet twice as thick, twice as heavy and half the battery life.
It'll probably be thicker but most likely it'll be flat. Apple tries hard to make the devices look thinner than they are even at the expense of functionality. For example, some people noticed that with iPad back being curvy it creates a problem for typing when iPad is placed on a desk.
Still, HP Slate will be heavier and this is an issue for some types of usage.
I have an HP EliteBook for work and just ordered an HP desktop for home - also have a MacBook, iPod touch, Apple TV - I'm very willing to give either company a very fair chance. I have a high opinion of both HP and Apple.
That said, the iPad sounds more interesting to me. I think a tablet PC is going to run hotter, probably have a fan, probably have half the battery life at most, and will try to quickly retrofit the interface to accept touch control as opposed to the iPad being built with touch control as the only interface from the ground up.
That said, the iPad sounds more interesting to me. I think a tablet PC is going to run hotter, probably have a fan, probably have half the battery life at most, and will try to quickly retrofit the interface to accept touch control as opposed to the iPad being built with touch control as the only interface from the ground up.
As others have said, I think it will be too heavy (I find the iPad to be a touch too heavy for carrying around in one hand while touching the screen with the other). Also, battery life is also likely to be much less, unless they packed a huge battery in there which could explain the thickness/weight.
No, the curved back also makes it easy to pick up. They could have made it blocky I guess.
And their battery will be huge because it will HAVE to be replacable for all of those people that think this is a good thing.
The UI for phone OSes is very limited in nature (compared to PC OSes) and can be easily masked by special touch-based layer. Just take a look at Sense UI on HTC phones. It is built on Windows Mobile and is considered by many to be better than iPhone's UI. It's even easier for newly developed applications. They can simply rely on the touch API.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/04/04-05-10slatepo.jpg
and i missing something here?????
thats iTunes on the screen.....
and i missing something here?????
thats iTunes on the screen.....
Even if the Slate includes all things the iPad is supposedly missing, I think HP will be lucky to reach 30% of what the iPad ultimately sells. HPs current touch stuff frankly sucks and I'm not expecting it to suddenly get a lot better in a new package.
The full OS w/touch layer will just make things even more complicated for most people. While the idea sounds like it would work, it's been tried before with Windows Tablet Edition and failed miserably (yes, I've owned several Windows tablets).
If it is cool, I'll buy one, but my expectations aren't too high for the Slate.
It looks like it will be heavier than the iPad though.
The full OS w/touch layer will just make things even more complicated for most people. While the idea sounds like it would work, it's been tried before with Windows Tablet Edition and failed miserably (yes, I've owned several Windows tablets).
If it is cool, I'll buy one, but my expectations aren't too high for the Slate.
It looks like it will be heavier than the iPad though.
A camera on a tablet makes no sense. Forward-facing for video chats? Well, you'll have a nice view of the other party's chin. Real facing for pictures? You would be holding up a nine-inch tablet with a pin-hole lens. Hardly discrete -- that's bigger than a plate camera.
Being a "real" computer, HP Slate will have access to everything on the WWW and not a single content provider offers something exclusively to iStuff at the expense of the billions of WWW users.
Nice...but...it's still a netbook...(we guess)
No specs listed but Pinetrail processor hinted at. So that's netbook. Heard they will have a dedicated GPU though. We just don't know about the battery life.
I have to say I am a fanboy...but like HP. Lenova and Sony hare been primarily overpriced on the name, not so HP. Build quality on everything they have has been good (reading this on my 22" widescreen HP monitor at work). I think the 'me too' video release this weekend is a little cheezy...expected something like that from Dell not HP.
Not many people know about it but Lenova ALREADY makes a Windows 7 pad with 'similar' specs and some of the things noted in owner reviews could also be problematic for HP.
Here's the link to the product page on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-0651-3...ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1270492340&sr=8-1-spell
The median rating is "meh". Some things noted both on here and other review sites are not exclusive to the hardware but indicative of Windows 7 shortcomings. Such as non-native multi-touch in Win 7 starter (so you have to pay for an upgrade). Seemingly different utilizations of multi-touch for different programs. HP is using the 'new and improved touchsmart' which was ok in a PDA 10 years ago...but it's just another layer of software running over Win 7. If you look at the hardware, it's heavier and runs hotter than the iPad. The battery life (atleast on the Lenova S10) is 3 to 3-1/2 hours.
Again, it seems like the uber-geeks and / or "anything but Apple" group don't get the target demographic for the iPad or are just ignoring it to have something to flame about.
"The iPad is not a laptop, desktop, or even an netbook killer" it was marketed as a 3rd item...a "tweener" if you like. (I have 4 kids and like that word a lot...).
I like the iPad (I know..I know..I'm a fanboy..I better) but I really like the implimentation. I don't mind the sandbox mentality or the "closed" market system. I find, for now, that they aren't needed for something that is made for light use of all kinds. I forgot which posters said it but..."sometimes you just need a hammer, not the knowledge contained about all hammers going back to the stone age". Apple broke with convention (which they done before) and said "let's go this way and see what happens. The HP slate is the "lets take a netbook and shoehorn it into a 'purty' package, stick on GUI software and see how it does". What about heat? I have a very nice laptop, nothing wrong at all with it...but it gets hot laying on my chest or thigh while watching the Tudors on Showtime. That's one of the bennies' of the iPad...heat? fan noise? (heck..any noise?)
What was funny were all the people who derided the iPad as "nothing new" or "just a big Touch"...and now are masturbating like the local zoo monkeys to get their hands on this "new and revolutionary device" that will show Apple how a tablet is supposed to be. I'll let them call it that if they let us do the same for our iPads The HP Slate is nothing 'new' either. Matter of fact, PC makers have been making tablets for something like 12 years and haven't had mainstreem success. This is Apples first (or second IF you count the Newton) pad device....I remember running Windows 3.1 for Tablet on a Fujitsu something or other...blech! Course that was probably 96 or so...I got it from Tiger Direct (hahaha...what a cheesehole place...and they now own Circuit City...Oh. My. God...)
Seriously though, no hate on HP or the Slate..it's just not the direction I wanted to go. (I don't like their flavor of kool-aid either ) I have always said, if anything, the iPad will stimulate copycats...and make a bigger and better market...so we all win.
No specs listed but Pinetrail processor hinted at. So that's netbook. Heard they will have a dedicated GPU though. We just don't know about the battery life.
I have to say I am a fanboy...but like HP. Lenova and Sony hare been primarily overpriced on the name, not so HP. Build quality on everything they have has been good (reading this on my 22" widescreen HP monitor at work). I think the 'me too' video release this weekend is a little cheezy...expected something like that from Dell not HP.
Not many people know about it but Lenova ALREADY makes a Windows 7 pad with 'similar' specs and some of the things noted in owner reviews could also be problematic for HP.
Here's the link to the product page on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-0651-3...ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1270492340&sr=8-1-spell
The median rating is "meh". Some things noted both on here and other review sites are not exclusive to the hardware but indicative of Windows 7 shortcomings. Such as non-native multi-touch in Win 7 starter (so you have to pay for an upgrade). Seemingly different utilizations of multi-touch for different programs. HP is using the 'new and improved touchsmart' which was ok in a PDA 10 years ago...but it's just another layer of software running over Win 7. If you look at the hardware, it's heavier and runs hotter than the iPad. The battery life (atleast on the Lenova S10) is 3 to 3-1/2 hours.
Again, it seems like the uber-geeks and / or "anything but Apple" group don't get the target demographic for the iPad or are just ignoring it to have something to flame about.
"The iPad is not a laptop, desktop, or even an netbook killer" it was marketed as a 3rd item...a "tweener" if you like. (I have 4 kids and like that word a lot...).
I like the iPad (I know..I know..I'm a fanboy..I better
) but I really like the implimentation. I don't mind the sandbox mentality or the "closed" market system. I find, for now, that they aren't needed for something that is made for light use of all kinds. I forgot which posters said it but..."sometimes you just need a hammer, not the knowledge contained about all hammers going back to the stone age". Apple broke with convention (which they done before) and said "let's go this way and see what happens. The HP slate is the "lets take a netbook and shoehorn it into a 'purty' package, stick on GUI software and see how it does". What about heat? I have a very nice laptop, nothing wrong at all with it...but it gets hot laying on my chest or thigh while watching the Tudors on Showtime. That's one of the bennies' of the iPad...heat? fan noise? (heck..any noise?) What was funny were all the people who derided the iPad as "nothing new" or "just a big Touch"...and now are masturbating like the local zoo monkeys to get their hands on this "new and revolutionary device" that will show Apple how a tablet is supposed to be
. I'll let them call it that if they let us do the same for our iPads The HP Slate is nothing 'new' either. Matter of fact, PC makers have been making tablets for something like 12 years and haven't had mainstreem success. This is Apples first (or second IF you count the Newton) pad device....I remember running Windows 3.1 for Tablet on a Fujitsu something or other...blech! Course that was probably 96 or so...I got it from Tiger Direct (hahaha...what a cheesehole place...and they now own Circuit City...Oh. My. God...)Seriously though, no hate on HP or the Slate..it's just not the direction I wanted to go. (I don't like their flavor of kool-aid either
) I have always said, if anything, the iPad will stimulate copycats...and make a bigger and better market...so we all win.
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That didn't even make sense. The OP meant that iTunes has dedicated apps for just the iPad. He implied that their was no 'dedicated HP slate' marketplace site.
AFAIK...the internet is OS free (barring the whole flash thing). There is no "Friends of Linux" site that will not let you in based on which OS you are searching with. Same with Windows and Macs. (Oh..I am sure some lonely basement bound uber-grunt has come up with a "sEkRet ClUb" for XXX users only...but I am not counting them).
I will validate your statement. Lot's of people who WERE exclusively using flash have released, will release, or are testing HTML5 or other workarounds for the iPad just so they don't exclude the few hundred thousand iPad users (or maybe they see what's coming? Millions of users?) So, your right, they won't do something that excludes a group.
And by "iStuff" you mean Apple...right iTroll ?
OK, bring on the "iPad killers". Here we go again. Every time people get suckered into believing one of these devices will compete by a flashy video and an overboard spec sheet, until they discover in reality the device is a poorly thought out copy. It'll have a UI that looks great in a mocked up video but in practice is flakey and slow, weighs too much and with a battery life that doesn't get you through a full day. Maybe I'm wrong this time, but we've seen all this before, over and over again, and these products always fail to deliver.
Here we go again. Every time people get suckered into believing one of these devices will compete by a flashy video and an overboard spec sheet, until they discover in reality the device is a poorly thought out copy. It'll have a UI that looks great in a mocked up video but in practice is flakey and slow, weighs too much and with a battery life that doesn't get you through a full day. Maybe I'm wrong this time, but we've seen all this before, over and over again, and these products always fail to deliver.
From my take, the real difference with iPad in that it is not a "real" computer in the sense that it can do all the things that this product will do. Apple has approached this differently than the others like HP--and is trying to provide sometime different--an alternative to the do-everything at all cost solution.
That didn't even make sense. The OP meant that iTunes has dedicated apps for just the iPad. He implied that their was no 'dedicated HP slate' marketplace site.
AFAIK...the internet is OS free (barring the whole flash thing). There is no "Friends of Linux" site that will not let you in based on which OS you are searching with. Same with Windows and Macs. (Oh..I am sure some lonely basement bound uber-grunt has come up with a "sEkRet ClUb" for XXX users only...but I am not counting them).
I will validate your statement. Lot's of people who WERE exclusively using flash have released, will release, or are testing HTML5 or other workarounds for the iPad just so they don't exclude the few hundred thousand iPad users (or maybe they see what's coming? Millions of users?) So, your right, they won't do something that excludes a group.
And by "iStuff" you mean Apple...right iTroll ?
You are just having comprehension problems, that's all. The original post was about content. Try to name one single content source/provider that is available exclusively for iPad. You can't. It's that simple.
Yeah..but..
No one is shipping thumb drive installers (mainstream) and making an ISO disk to thumbdrive can be a HUGE pain in the butt sometimes...not just a "copy this CD/DVD to thumbdrive command" on all installs...
You're both right, it's just a matter of approach. The iPad has apps that attempt to make reading newspapers or magazines easier. It can also use the Web. The HP device will be able to use the Web. You can get all the same content in both places, with few minor exceptions maybe. The difference is interface.
I agree with you because the do everything at all cost solution generally offers a mediocre experience and becomes unnecessarily complicated for most people. It's one of those cases where the phrase "jack-of-all-trades, master of none" definitely applies.