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It should appeal to a certain crowd. Personally, I think a camera is stupid. You look weird holding a tablet to take picture. I would rather use my smaller Nikon and get outstanding shots or just use phone since it's smaller.

The flicking looked ugly as sin but maybe they will fix it by then. Memory card is nice though.

Does it have Ethernet port? :p
 
all the better to grip it! I have a touch and a BB. My BB is far easier to hold onto. sure it weighs more, but the touch is very easy to drop. drop it on the wrong surface and all the "coolness" of that Apple product vanishes in an instant. Apple fans really, really dig thinness, don't they? Product anorexia. :)

Is this sarcasm? You need to hold an iPad if you haven't, because it is thin while still easily held.
 
I think many are missing the point. When the iPhone came out it had nothing new, nothing. Neither did the 3G. Every bit of tech in those phone had existed for years. What Apple did was make it all work smoother, better, easier. Apple is taking cutting edge tech (that they shamelessly rip off from the bleeding edge) and they make it approachable to the mainstream.

This has always, from day 1, been Jobs' modus operandi. Most people aren't aware that even the original consumer Mac was just a slick, approachable rip-off of something Xerox had created years before. The iPod was an inferior media player when it came out. Limited formats, lower sound quality. But, Apple came up with a click wheel, slick interaction and eventually iTunes and buh-bye competition.

I have no problem with it, in fact, I think it's genius. Apple has never had the best tech on a spec basis but they have, by far, the slickest, easiest to use and mainstream approachable tech and that is what makes them a success.




ash =o)
 
So HP still hasn't learned from over a decade of failed tablets. A touch UI only works with a touch OS. The only "iPad killers" coming out will be the Android ones.

Reviewers are complaining that the iPad is too heavy. The HP slate will be weight as much as a netbook and use a OS designed for a keyboard and mouse. Why not just get a netbook then?
 
Lame.

For the second time they made a demo of the actual product NOT.

The first teaser with flash.
The second with pic and video conf to show off a camera.

Ahaha

They are just buying your wishes with something that they don't have yet.
 
I think many are missing the point. When they iPhone came out it had nothing new, nothing. Neither did the 3G. Every bit of tech in those phone had existed for years. What Apple did was make it all work smoother, better, easier. Apple is taking cutting edge tech (that they shamelessly rip off from the bleeding edge) and they make it approachable to the mainstream.

This had always, from day 1 been Jobs' modus operandi. Most people aren't aware that even the original consumer Mac was just a slick, approachable rip-off of something Xerox had created years before. The iPod was an inferior media player when it came out. Limited formats, lower sound quality. But, Apple came up with iTunes and buh-bye competition.

I have no problem with it, in fact, I think it's genius. Apple has never had the best tech on a spec basis but they have, by far, the slickest, easiest to use and mainstream approachable tech and that is what makes them a success.




ash =o)

When the first iPod came out, the big deal was the 5gig of storage and the click wheel interface. Sound quality was fine, and format support was fine (mp3 and AAC). What held it back was being Mac only, which was soon rectified in the next revision. iTunes Store did kick it up to a whole other level, but not really for the reasons you stated.

No offense but you also seem misinformed about the Xerox thing...they had never built anything like a Mac.
 
This device, on this forum at this time, is kind of like this:

I don't want a car, too big for my needs
Oh, my friend has a Vespa, that's cool
Darn it, the Vespa is kind of expensive for what you get
Hmm, I can get way more horsepower per dollar with a motorcycle
While shopping for motorcycles, I notice that cars have more features and are cheaper
I have now convinced myself I want a car by a series of one-up choices

If the battery life isn't much worse than your laptop, ok ... I guess that's fine if you are thinking of it as a laptop ... but I don't know about you, I always feel nervous when my MacBook is unplugged. Like I'm under the gun. You can't just zone out and relax with it unplugged or it'll be dead before you know it.

The battery life of the iPad is possibly the #1 reason I'd want one.
 
I don't have a need for something that I have to use for 10 hours (besides for a cell phone maybe) before I can charge it again. When its not in use it will be charging.
 
rumored specs released. Weighs less than the iPad. The only downside I see is the battery life but that is still longer than my mbp. Also I am curious to how the UI will compare.

http://gizmodo.com/5510143/hp-slate-specs-leaked-compared-to-ipad-in-hp-internal-presentation

I was wrong. It doesn't weigh as much as a net book. Dimensions are also pretty similar and it's not as thick as the pics looked.

Windows 7 and 1.6ghz atom will kill it. Why use a bloated desktop OS on a tablet? Put Android and A9 in it and it has a chance. It will also improve battery life, I doubt the thing gets anywhere close to 5 hours in normal use.
 
I'd give this serious and fair consideration; I can say right off that I would be worried about the battery life (10 hours is way better than 5 hours for my use patterns) and interface (grafting a touch interface onto Windows seems a lot more iffy than using the mature iPhone interface). The advantages are also obvious: it's a computer, with all that entails, eg USB ports etc. I like HP as much as I like Apple, but this seems more like a hobby while the iPad seems like a mission.
 
This is what the iPad SHOULD HAVE been. But, Apple wants too much control and more profit from their products.

I'll be waiting for this device to launch. It has everything the iPad should have:

Ports
Full browser with Flash
Front camera with video conferencing ability
Back camera

And, five hours of battery life is fine with me if I get the features I want.
 
My prediction is this will be a fail. I work for a company with does depot work for HP if a machine has a hardware failure. I have played with a few of the touch smarts and all I can say is that Windows 7 even with the touch ui is not that great on it.

I agree, put android on it, and it may stand a chance against the iPad.
 
I'd give this serious and fair consideration; I can say right off that I would be worried about the battery life (10 hours is way better than 5 hours for my use patterns) and interface (grafting a touch interface onto Windows seems a lot more iffy than using the mature iPhone interface). The advantages are also obvious: it's a computer, with all that entails, eg USB ports etc. I like HP as much as I like Apple, but this seems more like a hobby while the iPad seems like a mission.

Why does it deserve any consideration? What advantages does this have over a netbook? It has netbook specs, a netbook screen, runs an OS designed for a mouse and keyboard, and to top it off, it's more expensive than a netbook. It may be a bit lighter but, hell, Sony makes a 1.5 pound netbook. Why not just buy a netbook?

If iPad ran OSX and people were forced to run OSX apps designed for a keyboard and mouse, it would be a horrible experience. All of the iPad's apps are designed from the ground up for touch, it's running a bloat free mobile OS so we enjoy fast speed and long battery life.

Have you used a Windows 7 + 1.6ghz atom netbook? It's much slower than the iPad and I'm sure putting a touch layer over the OS will make it even slower.

I still say the only tablets that has a chance of competing with the iPad will be Android-based.
 
Apple is so dumb.

Always waiting until they actually have a product before making a video about it.

The need to show us a concept video of the iDoodle and the iI which will likely be out in 2013 and 2018 respectively.

Stupid Apple.. they freaking almost had the stupid iPad ready to ship by the time they even announced it. Where did they learn how to do business from a box of crackerjacks?
 
Joojoo has 5 hours battery life but when engadget tested it they got 2.5 hours and the device was getting hot. Fusion garage then said you get 5 hours by avoiding flash(!).

Now... What ig going to be of the 5 hours HP claimed?

The iPad is claimed 10 hours, but some test got to 7 hours of heavy usage to even 11 hours with a light usage.
 
Apple is so dumb.

Always waiting until they actually have a product before making a video about it.

The need to show us a concept video of the iDoodle and the iI which will likely be out in 2013 and 2018 respectively.

Stupid Apple.. they freaking almost had the stupid iPad ready to ship by the time they even announced it. Where did they learn how to do business from a box of crackerjacks?

You conveniently forgot about April 8th event where Apple is going to demonstrate iPhone OS 4 which is not ready for release yet. I suspect that they want to put out something to counteract HP and MS.
 
You conveniently forgot about April 8th event where Apple is going to demonstrate iPhone OS 4 which is not ready for release yet. I suspect that they want to put out something to counteract HP and MS.

Required for developers to work with it and developers are seeded versions of it so it's quite a bit different.
 
This is what the iPad SHOULD HAVE been. But, Apple wants too much control and more profit from their products.

I'll be waiting for this device to launch. It has everything the iPad should have:

Ports
Full browser with Flash
Front camera with video conferencing ability
Back camera

And, five hours of battery life is fine with me if I get the features I want.

Yes, that's what the ipad should have been, half the battery life, no ips screen, smaller screen by 1 inch, no mobile touch optimised os, no ecosystem of apps, no custom built optimised arm cpu but a backward atom instead...:rolleyes:

I am glad you are going to get the features you want with hp, because we all know cameras on slates and flash and an extra sd slot is really useful and cutting edge. I don't really know what I could have done without a camera on a tablet, it's not like every other device I have actually has a camera for example. And I really don't know what I could have done with all that flash content that I would be bitterly missing on the ipad...

I mean for real man, for real, if apple were speculating instead of actually releasing a device with half the battery life, a small non ips screen, a netbook cpu, a desktop hog of an os, would anyone be coming here bragging about that this is what the tablet should have been?
 
rumored specs released. Weighs less than the iPad. The only downside I see is the battery life but that is still longer than my mbp. Also I am curious to how the UI will compare.

http://gizmodo.com/5510143/hp-slate-specs-leaked-compared-to-ipad-in-hp-internal-presentation

We have seen these specs before. On the Archos 9.

1GB Ram (non expandable), Atom Processor, Intel integrated graphics are going to provide a fairly painful Windows 7 experience, just like the Archos 9.

Also 32GB isn't going to get you very far as a disk in a windows machine. Say goodbye to half just to install the OS, how do SSDs like being cycled perpetually as virtual memory swap file ...

But hey it will make spec sheet buyers happy. Just like the wonderful Joojoo with Flash!, of course flash currently barely works, heats up the computer and cuts the battery life to 2.5 hours.

HP is reportedly also working on an Android tablet, it might be the dark horse.
 
We have seen these specs before. On the Archos 9.

1GB Ram (non expandable), Atom Processor, Intel integrated graphics are going to provide a fairly painful Windows 7 experience, just like the Archos 9.

Also 32GB isn't going to get you very far as a disk in a windows machine. Say goodbye to half just to install the OS, how do SSDs like being cycled perpetually as virtual memory swap file ...

But hey it will make spec sheet buyers happy. Just like the wonderful Joojoo with Flash!, of course flash currently barely works, heats up the computer and cuts the battery life to 2.5 hours.

HP is reportedly also working on an Android tablet, it might be the dark horse.

Excellent points.
 
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