I stopped reading after "HP". The only other tablet I'm even slightly interested in is the Notion Ink Adam. To be honest, the Adam is actually a little more appealing than the iPad even. If they can deliver on their promise they have a really, really cool product.
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while not a tablet, but an e-ink reader, the plastic logic que, is very innovative, and does away with the traditionally breakage sensitive e-ink screens.
Yes, that's what the ipad should have been, half the battery life, no ips screen, smaller screen by 1 inch, no mobile touch optimised os, no ecosystem of apps, no custom built optimised arm cpu but a backward atom instead...
I am glad you are going to get the features you want with hp, because we all know cameras on slates and flash and an extra sd slot is really useful and cutting edge. I don't really know what I could have done without a camera on a tablet, it's not like every other device I have actually has a camera for example. And I really don't know what I could have done with all that flash content that I would be bitterly missing on the ipad...
I mean for real man, for real, if apple were speculating instead of actually releasing a device with half the battery life, a small non ips screen, a netbook cpu, a desktop hog of an os, would anyone be coming here bragging about that this is what the tablet should have been?
I take usability over needless "innovation" any day. IPS Screen? Who cares! The iPad is too large, one inch smaller is easier to use. Not everyone wants to carry a screen around on their arm. And, mobile touch what? Yeah, keep posting features that don't really create real usable functions. Users like you are like little kids, you only care about the shiny bells and lights. Real users look at devices in terms of functionality.
Have fun with your iPad toy where you're locked into buying everything from iTunes. Your $499 iPad will end up costing well over $1000 within a few months.
HP Slate > iPad
Well well well....Looks like the HP Slate will be less weight than the Ipad. Funny.
I have a HP Touchsmart 600 and let me tell you, the apps that it came with out of the box was awesome! I am VERY interested in seeing what HP puts on this device. I have always hated HP as im a Dell guy, but they know what they are doing with touchscreens.
I have a HP Touchsmart 600 and let me tell you, the apps that it came with out of the box was awesome! I am VERY interested in seeing what HP puts on this device. I have always hated HP as im a Dell guy, but they know what they are doing with touchscreens.
Of all the seriously weak rationalizations I have heard, claiming the 1" bigger screen makes the iPad too big has to be the weakest I have heard.
It is kind of funny to talk in terms of usability with Windows 7 running on an Atom with 1GB of memory. Since the HP is vapor and the Video is an animation, to check usability, find an outlet with an Archos 9. Try it out, then go try out an iPad and report back on usability....
Have you seen the screen? It blows all other laptops out of the water. There is not a screen better on a laptop regardless of price.
You're kidding right??
Sorry but win7 on an Atom can't run worth a damn, not to mention this thing will only get about 3-4hrs of battery life.
I've seen iPad's screen in person. These are flaws I've personally noticed:
- Glare. A serious problem for a screen that's facing up most of the time.
- Washes out in sunlight. So much for reading ebooks out on the deck.
- Light leaks around the edge, mostly on the right. Cheapskates.
- Fingerprints show, despite Oleophobic coating.
- No privacy, as it can be seen from (nearly) any forward angle.
Yes, laptop screens can suffer the same flaws. Yet they are usually larger (you didn't say netbook), and display the web better (with flash), and have higher resolution, and are naturally protected when closed, and so on. I've yet to see one IN the water, much less blown out of it. Please find a better analogy for your fanboy rants.
Uh yeah it weighs the same amount because it gets most likely less than half the battery life, duh. If Apple wanted to compromise to 5 hour or less battery life, I'm sure they could have made the iPad come in at less than a pound and even thinner as batteries are by far the heaviest component and take the most inside the iPad chassis. I'm really glad they didn't go that way though.
Err... doesn't everyone spend money on applications? Pro Tools, Adobe Creative Suite, Final Cut, ect? Hell even Microsoft Office Suite costs an arm and a leg right?
Every machine that uses apps/programs are gonna cost more over time.
Unless you are a proponent of pirating software or using free programs. In that case, I'm certain two can play at that game, right?
It's a wash in terms of cost along a timeline.
It's a wash in terms of program availability.
Edit: also if you bring up the argument that YOUR argument is based on the Apple Closed system; Look at all the App developers getting into the game. Both Apple's iTunes app ecosystem and the "pc/windows" ecosystem are very robust. Again a wash.
Sound quality was inferior on early iPods as compared to other MP3 players. You are right about the click wheel. There were other players with the same capacity for the first several iPods.
I'm not misinformed at all. While Xerox did not release anything to the public, they developed it. They had a computer running a Mac OS like GUI, using a mouse and networking in 1979. Jobs was invited to check it out and promptly "borrowed" it for Macintosh.
From Wiki:
"Adoption by Apple
The first successful commercial GUI product was the Apple Macintosh, which was heavily inspired by PARC's work; Xerox was allowed to buy pre-IPO stock from Apple in exchange for engineer visits and an understanding that Apple would create a GUI product. Much later, in the midst of the Apple v. Microsoft lawsuit in which Apple accused Microsoft of violating its copyright by appropriating the use of the "look and feel" of the Macintosh GUI, Xerox also sued Apple on the same grounds. The lawsuit was dismissed because Xerox had waited too long to file suit, and the statute of limitations had expired."
I've lost track of what this thread is about.
But yeah - HP slate - I'd like to know more, maybe see a demo - but if battery life isn't over about 7-8 hours, to me, it's intrinsically limiting. The rest sounds okay, though I worry about the interface and future support.
But yeah - HP slate - I'd like to know more, maybe see a demo - but if battery life isn't over about 7-8 hours, to me, it's intrinsically limiting. The rest sounds okay, though I worry about the interface and future support.
The iPads battery life is going to be hard to even approach.
This was a shock for me. I expected much worse, and that it would effect it as an e-reader.
Not so.
Some of these new tablets are probably going to be really nice and much more pwerful than the iPad.
But they will not be better readers.
Can't have it both ways
Nobody wants a reader or we'd buy a Kindle
The first iphone was a re-invention. It did had something new, multi-touch. I remember my jaw dropped when they pinch a picture and made it bigger. Plus, Apple put in the app store. Apple is a trend setter. After that, everyone try to make a phone like apple. HP may try to built a tablet, but it will ok. It won't be as nice as the iPad. It simply won't be smoooth. HP slate may have usb, sd card slot, etc., but the most important part won't work.
iPad is the extension of the original innovation with a bigger screen. I think Apple could have gone farther, though. I think that they could have resolve a better way to input data. Yeah, Apple wanted the iPad to be a consumption device rather than another line of computers. Then why add iWorks?
iPad is the extension of the original innovation with a bigger screen. I think Apple could have gone farther, though. I think that they could have resolve a better way to input data. Yeah, Apple wanted the iPad to be a consumption device rather than another line of computers. Then why add iWorks?
I've seen iPad's screen in person. These are flaws I've personally noticed:
- Glare. A serious problem for a screen that's facing up most of the time.
- Washes out in sunlight. So much for reading ebooks out on the deck.
- Light leaks around the edge, mostly on the right. Cheapskates.
- Fingerprints show, despite Oleophobic coating.
- No privacy, as it can be seen from (nearly) any forward angle.
Yes, laptop screens can suffer the same flaws. Yet they are usually larger (you didn't say netbook), and display the web better (with flash), and have higher resolution, and are naturally protected when closed, and so on. I've yet to see one IN the water, much less blown out of it. Please find a better analogy for your fanboy rants.
These "flaws" have nothing to do with the display itself. You don't like the glossy displays. That's your preference. You're also the only one who sees the last point as a negative and not a positive.
Obviously, you know nothing about video because you didn't talk about color, black level, contrast, etc. What about the fact that all laptops displays are 6-bit and can only produce 262,144 colors while the iPad is 8-bit and can produce 16.7 million? Yes, even the MBPs are 6-bit.
remember it is because of HP and Microsoft that I am now a loyal Apple consumer...Not going back to that nightmare again!
hate to break it to you, but Win 7 is a pleasure to use. I've even got it on an atom powered netbook (Acer ) and it works fine--even has the aero interface despite MS's upgrade advisor software having told me that it wouldn't work on it.
was an easy install using a thumbdrive. just in case I need a PC in the house with XP, I left that on it as well. you Windows haters crack me up with your complaints that are based on older versions of windows.so don't use the camera! Enjoy the other features it will have that the ipad DOESN'T.
It should appeal to a certain crowd. Personally, I think a camera is stupid. You look weird holding a tablet to take picture. I would rather use my smaller Nikon and get outstanding shots or just use phone since it's smaller.
The flicking looked ugly as sin but maybe they will fix it by then. Memory card is nice though.
Does it have Ethernet port?
Out of all the iPad criticisms I've read, the one that just doesn't hold water is the lack of a cam. It's just functionally a non-starter.
The skype pic on the left (from the HP vid) is obviously fake but it's something for the suckers to drool over. The pic on the right, at best, is what you'll actually get.
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Thinking that a cam on a tablet is ridiculous means you don't understand the world outside of the us. It's a major omission to most European countries where video chatting is normal. I have an ipad and think this is the one thing that is deficient without excuse at the price point as most of my family use Skype regularly.
