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That's just because they cannot run more then 1 app at once. My jailbroken iPhone using a radio streaming application uses ALL the memory, when I put it in background and start Safari, memory runs out and it closes the radio streaming application. I can listen and check my mail, or use ebuddy, but loading safari would require more memory then the iPhone have.
You must be running a ridiculous amount of things in the background.

I can do what you can't without issue on a 3G of all phones.
 
You must be running a ridiculous amount of things in the background.

I can do what you can't without issue on a 3G of all phones.

Nope, not at all, I usually check my mail, close that, start up "The voice" radio streaming App, put that in the background and check some in LIGHT safari (mobile customized sites) and some normal sites. If I then get a text I wanna reply to it is impossible without the radio App closing.
 
It has an ATOM processor with that is not worth it at all, my ACER ONE netbook with dual core ATOM 1.6ghz runing windows 7 or win xp is slower than my ipad in everyway. You can see how laggy is the HP slate. 5 hr batt is a joke.
 
"Video conferencing, usb ports, FLASH! YAY!"

"How long's the battery last?"

"30 minutes :("
 
It has an ATOM processor with that is not worth it at all, my ACER ONE netbook with dual core ATOM 1.6ghz runing windows 7 or win xp is slower than my ipad in everyway. You can see how laggy is the HP slate. 5 hr batt is a joke.

Something tells me you aren't running an SSD in your Acer One :).
 
When the first iPod came out, the big deal was the 5gig of storage and the click wheel interface. Sound quality was fine, and format support was fine (mp3 and AAC). What held it back was being Mac only, which was soon rectified in the next revision. iTunes Store did kick it up to a whole other level, but not really for the reasons you stated.

No offense but you also seem misinformed about the Xerox thing...they had never built anything like a Mac.

look up the xerox dandelion--first gui (had a mouse too, 1983 if i'm not mistaken)
 
Nope, not at all, I usually check my mail, close that, start up "The voice" radio streaming App, put that in the background and check some in LIGHT safari (mobile customized sites) and some normal sites. If I then get a text I wanna reply to it is impossible without the radio App closing.

I've had Slacker radio running while doing everything you mentioned.

Not sure what to offer aside from possibly that radio app is inefficiently using the memory of the device. Sorry.
 
I've had Slacker radio running while doing everything you mentioned.

Not sure what to offer aside from possibly that radio app is inefficiently using the memory of the device. Sorry.

Yeah, I agree it is most likely the radio app thats poorly written. Now the big problem occurs. I cannot listen through the web browser, because Apple didn't feel like making it a normal web browser that could do what I can do at home, so the radio app is my only way to get that station.
 
It has an ATOM processor with that is not worth it at all, my ACER ONE netbook with dual core ATOM 1.6ghz runing windows 7 or win xp is slower than my ipad in everyway. You can see how laggy is the HP slate. 5 hr batt is a joke.


If you use an SD card with readyboost it could greatly increase the speed. I too am curious about the windows 7 build on the HPslate. I doubt it will be a regular version of Windows 7. One bad thing about HP, they customize so much and don't give you a OS disk with your purchase. Then they charge 20-30 bucks for a recovery disk. In that aspect I love Dell. So let's see how this OS runs on the slate.

I will take 5 hours of pleasure versus 10 hours of.....sub par.... Hey some people will trade 15 minutes of pleasure for a life of work... Have you seen 16 and pregnant on MTV. :D
 
That's RAM, not cpu.

Yes and no... It stores cached data that would normally go on RAM or the Hard drive on a usb drive or sd card. Unlike a hard drive, the sd cards and usb drives read faster since they don't have to look for the data. It should help with the boot up times etc. But yeah it won't help the CPU.
 
The thing is, yes it has a far more functional OS, but it just isn't as smooth/slick. IMO, the biggest thing that sets the iPhone apart, and which competitors still haven't caught up with since the iPhone was launched 3 years ago, is the fluidity and slickness of the interface. I had a go with a HTC hero, which is supposed to be one of the closest things to the iPhone in terms of fluidity, but it was still light years behind. When a competitor brings out a tablet with the slickness of the iPad, then I'll be interested.

However, my one main gripe about the iPad is that you have to sync it to a computer; it's not a standalone product, it doesn't work on its own out of the box. I don't mind it having iPhone OS, but I wish it was more of a computer in itself, and wasn't dependant on having to be synced to iTunes.
Thats the main selling point of the HP Slate IMO, that it is truly a standalone computer. It's just that it's not going to be a great, fluid experience using it.
 
The thing is, yes it has a far more functional OS, but it just isn't as smooth/slick. IMO, the biggest thing that sets the iPhone apart, and which competitors still haven't caught up with since the iPhone was launched 3 years ago, is the fluidity and slickness of the interface. I had a go with a HTC hero, which is supposed to be one of the closest things to the iPhone in terms of fluidity, but it was still light years behind. When a competitor brings out a tablet with the slickness of the iPad, then I'll be interested.

However, my one main gripe about the iPad is that you have to sync it to a computer; it's not a standalone product, it doesn't work on its own out of the box. I don't mind it having iPhone OS, but I wish it was more of a computer in itself, and wasn't dependant on having to be synced to iTunes.
Thats the main selling point of the HP Slate IMO, that it is truly a standalone computer. It's just that it's not going to be a great, fluid experience using it.

The thing is though, you only HAVE to sync the iPad once, and then you can just charge it on its own, get email on its own, buy apps and music and movies on the iPad directly, etc. So while it's nice to resync it from time to time to back up your iPad, it's not a strict requirement.

What will you do with the HP the first time you use it? Right, copy your files onto it somehow.

So in that sense, the experience is similar.
 
I'd have no interest in the Archos 9 from your description.

The Archos 8 looks odd in the picture (I don't mind a bezel, but that bezel is ginormous) and the blurb doesn't mention wifi, 3g, or much else about functionality I care about.

The Archos 7 looks interesting. I'll research that a bit more, it may play into my decision regarding the iPad. No 3g would be a big drawback, but pocketable would be a big advantage.

I have the archos 5 with android that came out last November and it is pretty awful overall. I was really excited about it too as it was going to be my first chance to use android. What a letdown. I don't know if it was just archos doing a poor job of implementing android or what, but it makes me never want to have an android phone or any other android device. It's pretty slow and crashes a lot, wifi has lots of connection issues and the web browser kinda sucks in how the menus and other functions are implemented (and no flash here either). The touchscreen is terrible and pretty nonresponsive and the virtual keyboard is a nightmare to type on. And the worst part is that archos only gives you a gimped version of the app store that they have to approve to make sure they work on the tablet so there's practically no apps available to download on it either (unless you want to try to follow some online hacking tutorials to get acces to the whole app store).

So, the iPad is a gazillion times better than a recent archos android tablet and i have a feeling these new ones won't be much better. I say stay away.
 
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Another pic of the HP slate.
 
Yes and no... It stores cached data that would normally go on RAM or the Hard drive on a usb drive or sd card. Unlike a hard drive, the sd cards and usb drives read faster since they don't have to look for the data. It should help with the boot up times etc. But yeah it won't help the CPU.

So it's similar to the prefetch feature? :confused:
 
So it's similar to the prefetch feature? :confused:

Very similar indeed. It caches a lot of the files you use to boot up with and other files as well. With the right USB or SD card ( not a cheap card ) it can make a huge world of difference.
 
Very similar indeed. It caches a lot of the files you use to boot up with and other files as well. With the right USB or SD card ( not a cheap card ) it can make a huge world of difference.

Thanks for the info. I hate trying to contribute and being wrong :eek:
 
Thanks for the info. I hate trying to contribute and being wrong :eek:

Well, I have yet to use readyboost with any of my computers. I don't have any spare SD cards and usb drives atm. I have however had a friend tell me he thought his hard drive must be going out. His computer was taking forever to boot up. Turns out his wife had taken the SD card out of the computer. He said his computer normally booted in seconds compared to minutes without the card.

Anyway, for all of my posts here, I have been using a Asus netbook with 1.66 intel atom on Windows 7 Ultimate, with dynamic wallpapers turned on along with aero turned on. I am using firefox with 11 tabs open. I have played a decent array of games on here. One of my favorites being Lord of the Rings battle for middle earth 1 and 2. Does it run slow? Not for me. Not enough for me to do readyboost yet. Is it as fast as the Ipad? Hell no! Who would expect it to be.

I think it is quite possible for HP's slate to run a custom version of Windows 7 nice and pewwwrty. It won't be as fast as the Ipad, but will be with many more features. The Ipad is not being pushed at all with the Iphone OS. The Iphone OS runs great on a 600 mhz SOC processor with 256 mb ram, why wouldn't it run great on the Ipad? The only thing that pushes the Ipad is HD playback which you can expect on the next Iphone as well. Nothing new...
 
Windows 7 + 1GB of RAM + Atom CPU = fail.

Let's not forget that Windows 7 was designed for a "desktop" environment a hardware significantly more powerful than the Atom, which is essentially a low power and overclocked Pentium 1.

The HP Slate is using desktop hardware with desktop software wrapped in a touchscreen UI.

The iPad is a touchscreen device built from the ground up, both hardware and software, to be touchscreen.

And, again, let's go back to the hardware. It's an Atom processor with 1GB of RAM. It's running Windows 7. That means that it will be running desktop apps. Now, as much as I like iTunes, have you ever paid attention to how much RAM it uses? Or how much memory browsers use? I have Firefox open with 1 tab right now. It's using 113MB of RAM. I have iTunes open. It's using 75MB of RAM. I just scrolled through my entire music library using "album" view and that shot up to 280MB of RAM.

By running a desktop OS known for being a resource hog and by running full desktop apps, that 1GB of RAM is going to show its limitations instantly, while most users will never notice the RAM limitation with the iPad.

Wow, I actually agree with you. I was really intrigued when I first heard about the HP Slate (much as I dislike HP products besides their servers and printers) but the specs are just too anemic to be useful.

Couple that with the issue that Windows 7, or any desktop OS for that matter, just plain sucks as a tablet. I spent a week with a Motion Computing tablet with Win7, and, while it's better than Windows XP was as a tablet, still was just a horrible user experience.

Now granted I have not seen the custom UI they're doing for this, but I just question the appeal of a device that's meant to be carried around constantly on wireless, yet gets only 5 hours battery life, and runs an OS better suited to 2GB or higher, and dual core processors.

I'm much more hopeful of the Android-based devices being announced, such as the Dell Mini 5 and MSI, but I still will more than likely get an iPad for work.
 
How are apps going to be loaded on to the slate? IS HP going to setup its own store. will you just be able to download executable files from the internet? And will it have 3G or Wifi or both?
 
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