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you also can buy an 10.5" for work, you use it for 10 days lets say and return it
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new iPad pro next month
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Oh well! Hopefully the waiting is nearly over.And.....nothing
Maybe Apple will surprise us yet...
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It's almost certain to be October 30th, are we still convinced it can't be October 23rd? Tim Cook can still travel after, right?
MacBook Pro was no redesign and was also responding to a lot of pressure from the Mac community who wanted the updated Intel silicon. And look how that ended up with the initial throttlegate...
A rushed release? Maybe. I have an i7 32gb ram model and it’s a great machine, but does get hot and battery life can suffer. But no point getting into that now!
Late October keynote with an early November release.
I was thinking this. While 30th is still more probable, the week before may have been ruled out too quickly.
That said, with the time difference, I think he’d struggle to make it, unless he left straight after the keynote which would be unlikely.
It’s pretty obvious that the launch isn’t going to be in October, but the announcement event still could be (likely dates of the 30th or 31st now I suppose). I must ask what you’re referring to when you say there’s already too much going on? The only thing being released is the iPhone xr. And if it sells like the ones just released then I would imagine Apple will have no problem keeping up with demand. If I wanted to right now I could go to any Apple store in my area and get any of the phones that I wanted....at only three weeks after release this is unheard of with prior iPhone releases.
The Apple Watch Series 4 Nike+ just launched Friday, as you say the Xr preorders are on the 19th and won't be available until the 26th, many people are still trying to buy their Apple Watches because of stocking issues that will last through October. Announcing a new iPad the 30th would be shouting into the wind. The original iPad Pro was announced in September and released in November. I think they could announce it sometime in early to mid November and have a same-day launch/preorders.
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Watches are not overwhelming Apple by any means whatsoever. Neither will the xr either. You do realize how big of a company Apple is, right? They are more than capable of multiple releases at the same time. It’s hard to speculate why they are stalling on the new iPad pros...and it’s also unfortunate that Tim Cook committed to speaking in Brussels on the 24th, otherwise we would all be speculating that the event would be during that week instead of the 30th (or 31st).
I suggest against doing such a thing as not only is it fraud, but Apple tracks returns. If you do too many returns for odd reasons (meaning no issues, just buyer's remorse) they can deny future returns. TRE may not work for Apple, but that doesn't mean they don't have their own way of tracking repeat returns.
**Father was an Officer for 20 years in Fraudulent crimes.
Kallum.
Fraud? You mean how apple charged people to replace faulty MacBook Pro keyboard when there was a clear design failure? Or how they they sell warranty for devices to fix things that brake because of poor design in the first place?
As for your statement of apple refusing future returns, that would be just illegal, where did you even get that info???
Get the iPad, return it later, it’s completely legal.
It's not legal or illegal, it's a policy that they can alter at any time, and likely would if a significant amount of people simple brought a new one and returned it every month. That stands for no reason returns, obviously defective products are different.
They removed this policy in HK because people were taking the biscuit...
Yeah, the 14 day policy was recommended to me by the Apple Store staff only as a way to see if I like a product or not, not because I need it temporarily etc
This said, it is all up to everyone's tolerance levels; some Apple Stores may find frequent returns an issue and some people may think it is ok to do this since that's still technically not fraud per se.
I personally prefer to avoid returns whenever possible due to me not wanting to always go Apple Store (I know, they got free Wifi and it's a nice place to sit around but still the trip to there takes time and money that can be used elsewhere) and also I prefer to read up properly first before deciding if I want something (but I concede that sometimes, hands on is the only way to find out). Not to mention, those poor hardware, I really wonder what happens to them...
This said, it is all up to everyone's tolerance levels; some Apple Stores may find frequent returns an issue and some people may think it is ok to do this since that's still technically not fraud per se.
I personally prefer to avoid returns whenever possible due to me not wanting to always go Apple Store (I know, they got free Wifi and it's a nice place to sit around but still the trip to there takes time and money that can be used elsewhere) and also I prefer to read up properly first before deciding if I want something (but I concede that sometimes, hands on is the only way to find out). Not to mention, those poor hardware, I really wonder what happens to them...
I suppose I misspoke, I'll be a tad clearer, "friendly fraud" or "Wardrobing" are essentially laws that are put in place to protect retailers and companies, not usual laws like (murder, theft, or assault.)
These would most likely be considered "White Collar Crimes"
Anyways, your scenario doesn't add up to fraud as Apple sells goods and if it is defective they allow returns or exchanges (which negates any type of fraud as the offer of return is stating they aim to offer you what they promised.)
Apple creating a product with an error in the design is not fraudulent (it's bad business and simply a way to lose customers.) If Apple promises one thing for your money and it doesn't deliver on that then you can file a report and they are in effect liable. But (this is a big BUT) companies selling goods are allowed "reasonable expectations" by the law.
ie... when selling products that may boast a feature but if that feature doesn't work correctly the company is not liable to being prosecuted as they did not intend or attempt to commit fraud to the consumer, they merely had a defective item, (if they refused to accept responsibility for the item then Law Enforcement can get involved) but with all this "Friendly Fraud" it makes it hard.
*not being rude, but just google on what product return fraud, wardrobing, or friendly fraud is. I learned these from my Father and brother who is an Attorney, but also from companies and myself from working 10-years in retail stores in the US. Many people would buy and return items to use for a weekend or 2-week period then attempt to return them and would be denied with no way around it unless through an anti-fraud company (one is known as TRE) or the high ups of the company clear it. I worked at Toys R Us, Target, and Best Buy with all of this and even one time I myself was denied a return even though I had a defective item.
It may differ with certain areas, but it is a form of fraud known as "Friendly Fraud" or wardrobing (I am not a full fledge law student,) but coming from a Law family, and because I have interest in Law Enforcement, I have studied this and have had personal experience in different places and stores with it.
Here are links to what I am talking about...
https://www.incharge.org/military-money/military-life/return-fraud-are-you-part/
https://www.practicalecommerce.com/retailers-including-amazon-crack-return-fraud
https://losspreventionmedia.com/insider/retail-fraud/retail-refund-fraud-and-abuse/
https://www.theretailequation.com/Consumers/
https://consumer.findlaw.com/consumer-transactions/return-policies-and-refunds.html
https://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2...you-be-arrested-for-returning-worn-items.html
http://www.losspreventionsystems.co...fraud-by-another-name-and-it-costs-you-money/
https://www.practicalecommerce.com/3-Types-of-‘Return-Fraud-to-Monitor-this-Holiday-Season
https://www.cnbc.com/2014/12/26/many-unhappy-returns-retailers-combat-wardrobing.html
Example...
Returning Worn Items
"Generally, a consumer is safe from being arrested if they are honest with a store about the item they are returning. So if you are asked about whether an item was worn, and say yes, and the return is still accepted, you generally do not have to worry about arrest (frequently, stores will make exceptions if a consumer is honest and the goods still look new).
However, if a consumer lies about an item being worn, and the store can prove that the person is lying, then that could spell real trouble, and criminal charges, for the lying consumer. As one might suspect, it is very difficult for a store to prove a consumer is lying, unless they have surveillance footage, a transaction history on the consumer, or other evidence.
While customers may think that big retailers will not notice them, or not prosecute them over a small amount of money, the volume of retail crime they face means retailers frequently enforce their rules strictly against anyone and everyone caught trying to cheat them in order to set an example."
Also, it is fully within the rights of the establishment to deny a return as returns in the first place are a courtesy of that company, store, or person.
Kallum S.
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My god...you guys took this to far far away...from legal stand point, their papers SAID you have 14 days to return no questions asked...so if you return one item without a reason (no damaged done by the user) they have to, from legal stand point ,take it. Also in their document is stated, like in UE also, that IF you return several times without any reason in the same year, Apple can call this "abuse" and can reject your return
Now back on topic, Apple should announce the new ipads and macs this month
Now back on topic, Apple should announce the new ipads and macs this month
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I would be amazed if there isn't a price increase but it is becoming harder to justify of late as these devices are already very expensive. A new Pencil or switch USB-C connection doesn't technically make a difference to the vast majority of users I would guess. They will rework the storage capacity tiers to allow them to increase costs as well as cite the likes of Face ID as an important upgrade. Ultimately though, this new iPad won't bring a whole lot new to the table other than a redesign and small performance boost for the average user.
