You need to compare hardware specifications for those drives. Apples drives are WAY faster. Still too expensive, yes, but you are comparing apples and oranges.
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New Mac Mini is out. Is (almost) everyone happy now?
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You need to compare hardware specifications for those drives. Apples drives are WAY faster. Still too expensive, yes, but you are comparing apples and oranges.
It would certainly be tempting me if I wasn't in a happy relationship with my current iMac.
The Mac mini began as the answer to "why don't you offer a stripped-down Mac that's more affordable?", and became still the least expensive Mac but a much more capable machine.
I'm a little sad new Macs can't be less expensive for newcomers, but previous-generation machines are still capable. And not even a Fusion Drive, let alone any hind of a lament or requiem for their departure – I get the feeling Apple doesn't think they'll miss them.
The Mac mini began as the answer to "why don't you offer a stripped-down Mac that's more affordable?", and became still the least expensive Mac but a much more capable machine.
I'm a little sad new Macs can't be less expensive for newcomers, but previous-generation machines are still capable. And not even a Fusion Drive, let alone any hind of a lament or requiem for their departure – I get the feeling Apple doesn't think they'll miss them.
And then it would be the wrong GPU, or it would be too noisy, or it would not be upgradable, or it would cost too much, or any one of a dozen other things people complain about.
Pick the eGPU you want, problem solved.
The price of the base model at 899 € is not that expensive, I tried to build a PC with similar specs and I ended at around 900 €.
Ifixit needs to confirm but it appears all the drive space has been reassigned to cooling duty. So likely no space and no connectors.
Does the nuc iGPU include a desktop or mobile processor?
i5-8259U (or i7-8559U) 28W mobile 4-core + HT:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compar...el-i7-8559U-vs-Intel-i5-8500/3299vs3302vs3223
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/Intel-UHD-630-vs-Intel-Iris-Plus-655/3826vs3961
review: https://nucblog.net/2018/11/coffee-lake-i5-nuc-review-nuc8i5bek-nuc8i5beh/
2013 called. It wants its graphics performance back.
At best, the 630 is on par with the Iris Pro 5200 in the 15" Macbook Pro base model. From Late 2013. That is one of the weak points, at best, of the 2018, and one of the hard fails at worst.
The other is soldered storage, which is absurd on a desktop.
2018 is calling. Not every "pro" user needs high end graphics.
It's better than the previous MM, from 2014, and the 2015 MBP 13"
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/...is-Pro-6100-vs-Intel-UHD-630/2692vs3167vs3826
PS: and better than the Macbook Air 2018
Apple says it'll drive 3x 4K displays @ 60hz. Sounds competent enough to me.
It's better than the previous MM, from 2014, and the 2015 MBP 13"
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/...is-Pro-6100-vs-Intel-UHD-630/2692vs3167vs3826
PS: and better than the Macbook Air 2018
You would hope so, wouldn't you?
It's pathetic that a 13" MBP now has graphics (with the Iris Plus 655) that are roughly twice as fast as that in a 6 core desktop.
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Don't let the naysayers get to you. There are some people who just won't ever like what is being offered. That's fine, and that's their opinion.
For the rest of us (myself included), I am excited for this new release of the Mac Mini. Can't wait to get my hands on one, discrete graphics or not. For now, it'll serve my needs just fine... and when it no longer does, I'll add an eGPU.
I think I already addressed that and sorry, but in real practice, the other ones are plenty fast enough considering the INSANE price difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Screw APPLE. Their greed is becoming legendary.
As always, they charge what people will psy .
I was looking for a second hand iMac, as other camera investments keeps me from buying an iMac Pro .then this come a long . Great news, as I can buy an i7 500gb mini with 8gb ram now. Use my monitor and keyboard and start editing right away . In a month or three I can buy an egpu and next year a nice new monitor . Spreading the cost out and ending up with a flexible system for my needs .Never thought I would buy a mini before this Tuesday.
I was looking for a second hand iMac, as other camera investments keeps me from buying an iMac Pro .then this come a long . Great news, as I can buy an i7 500gb mini with 8gb ram now. Use my monitor and keyboard and start editing right away . In a month or three I can buy an egpu and next year a nice new monitor . Spreading the cost out and ending up with a flexible system for my needs .Never thought I would buy a mini before this Tuesday.
NVMe is nice, but 99% of people wouldn’t mind if it were 530/500 Sata speeds which are so much cheaper.
I don’t get why Apple is fixated on ridiculous NVMe pricing for consumer lines, only explanation is greed.
Yes! Outdated drives are the answer! Who cares if it is fast or not? How old can we go? RLL? EIDE?
Apple used to have 50 year old spinning drives on mac minis at a ridiculous 5400 rpm until last month, and it seems they thought that was appropiate enough. Why wouldn’t SATA ssd be perfectly acceptable for 99% of users now?
Give people an option, NVMe is prohibitively expensive for most people. Make the mac mini 0.5” taller if needed to acommodate that option. Only reason Apple doesn’t do it is greed, solder ssd to force people to buy it at time of purchase.
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For most people it won't be any faster.
I have gone NVMe and I will never go back ever. I have gone cable from dialup. I am also never going back. No one on this planet can tell me that slower is better. Apple did not use that spinner "because they thought is was best for us all". I GUARANTEE you that. They had them, they knew they could sell them, and that was that.
I applaud Apple for going NVMe. It makes for a better overall experience. In my humble opinion.