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NoSmokingBandit

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Apr 13, 2008
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She's a PC, an artist AND she fell from the top of the ugly tree and hit EVERY branch on the way down! To quote the famous John Candy (Uncle Buck), "Take this quarter, go downtown, and have a rat gnaw that thing off your face! Good day to you, madam."
...and how is this relevant? Are only models allowed to own macs?

Good god, the fanboyism here is just atrocious.
 

Adrian3300

macrumors member
Aug 15, 2007
46
0
PC for video editing

Yeah a "serious" film maker is going to use a PC and a laptop at that for video editing. Do they not know that the industry standard is Final Cut Pro
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
15,093
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...and how is this relevant? Are only models allowed to own macs?

Good god, the fanboyism here is just atrocious.
First off, thats just people being jerks online because they can, it has nothing to do with owning a mac.

Second, those comments dont relate to fanboyism at all, as much as youd like them to.
 

tomguy

macrumors newbie
Jun 29, 2007
8
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It's interesting how everyone of these commercials were filmed in Orange County, California.

The Best Buy stores I noticed were the ones in South Coast Plaza, Costa Mesa, CA.

The latest ad is at Fry's Electronics at Fountain Valley, CA.

I am bit confused over the various locations it was filmed. The latest ad shows the woman at South Coast Plaza, then she proceeds to Fry's in Fountain Valley, and then back to South Coast in the evening.
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
15,093
22,159
It's interesting how everyone of these commercials were filmed in Orange County, California.

The Best Buy stores I noticed were the ones in South Coast Plaza, Costa Mesa, CA.

The latest ad is at Fry's Electronics at Fountain Valley, CA.

I am bit confused over the various locations it was filmed. The latest ad shows the woman at South Coast Plaza, then she proceeds to Fry's in Fountain Valley, and then back to South Coast in the evening.

Maybe thats why it takes all day?
 

Jimmetry

macrumors member
Feb 11, 2009
56
0
Ok, the ad is pathetic, Macs are awesome, bla bla bla totally agree.

But this ad has one (and ONLY one) good point. The MacBook Pro is an expensive computer, and expensive computers come with 4GB of RAM. You can argue that it will do as well as a PC with 4GB but that doesn't mean it will be as good as it should be.

Apple should upgrade the minimum RAM of the Pro machines. Simple as that.
 

mikeinternet

macrumors 6502a
Nov 1, 2006
630
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Oaklnad, CA
Not having had to deal with AVI files or hard subtitles, I can't answer your question. I assume from the jack*ssy way you are asking that you have already determined Final Cut Pro does not do this out of the box?

("OSX" doesn't do that, of course, any more than "Windows" will do that ... the *application* you run might do it though).

OS X does do it. At least Quicktime Pro with Perian Components.
 

Jimmetry

macrumors member
Feb 11, 2009
56
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so can anyone answer my question

"can you even hardsub ssa/ass/srt subtitles into an avi using OSX? It's a simple question"

if Macs were so good for video editing, surely it should be possible right, right??

Uh, the reason it's not supported is because only backwards tards do it. Subtitles are not meant to be hard coded into the video.

Edit:
I suppose it would be relevant if you were uploading a video in another language to YouTube.
In that case, here's your answer: http://homepage.mac.com/major4/dvd_sub.html
 

BMWFan

macrumors regular
Original poster
Apr 11, 2009
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That woman is worryingly unattractive. If you accept her as having an unfeminine aesthetic, and more a tomboy image, then don't put her in a skirt - it just doesn't suit her. Next, she claims to be an artist, but shows no artistic traits. Thirdly, video editing is all about the software as a previous poster said - Avid, Media100, Final Cut Pro, Premiere or Vegas. The Pro apps are Avid (PC or Mac), Media100 (Mac), Final Cut Pro (Mac). Premier is borderline (PC and Mac) useful for After Effects and Photoshop integration, etc, and I know a few people who enjoy using Vegas (PC). I was surprised by the 2MB RAM criticism, as I thought 4MB was standard, since that's what came with my MacBook Pro.
These ads are painful to watch - especially as I've seen the trouble people have when they get their laptops home and try and use 'em. That said, I'm not an exclusive Mac fan - I love Windows 98, and prefer PCs for typing, web design, and desktop publishing. I use Macs for music and video editing. There are also plenty of annoyances and oversights in Leopard, but....these adverts are painful to watch.
Still - the audience is unlikely to be pro video editors. It just has to give the gist that PCs offer better value for money (and as far as hardware alone goes, they do). But I wonder if the way they linger on the MacBook in particular during each of these adverts, and point out a really weak criticism, is gonna work against them? If I were Microsoft, Apple wouldn't be in my ads.
That said, if Apple weren't in them, we wouldn't all be watching them online, and talking about them. =P
She's a PC, an artist AND she fell from the top of the ugly tree and hit EVERY branch on the way down! To quote the famous John Candy (Uncle Buck), "Take this quarter, go downtown, and have a rat gnaw that thing off your face! Good day to you, madam."


Further proof that all Apple fanboys care about is looks.

Uh, the reason it's not supported is because only backwards tards do it. Subtitles are not meant to be hard coded into the video.

Edit:
I suppose it would be relevant if you were uploading a video in another language to YouTube.
In that case, here's your answer: http://homepage.mac.com/major4/dvd_sub.html

What about ssa/ass subtitle files? These are very popular in the anime fansub community. Will fansubbers be able to hardsub them onto avi for distrubution?
 

3282868

macrumors 603
Jan 8, 2009
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I find it incredibly amusing that a Windows "fanboi" (GOD I hate that term) joined Macrumors last month in order to troll the threads by insulting Apple users. Even more amusing is that BMWFan sent in the information regarding the new commercial that started this thread. Even MORE amusing is BMWFan's attempt at looking down on the "snobbery" of Apple appreciators who apparently only buy "over priced" and "pretty stuff" when their user name is "BMWFan" (why not a Toyota or Nissan fan? They do their job as luxury automobiles and cost thousands less).

As I have been reading Macrumors for a few years I have read the threads in which commentators have brought the comments of these recent Microsoft ads to a head spinning 3,000+. Needless to say, there were quite a few new members to Macrumors that dominated that discussion.

This debate has gone on for ages and hasn't changed one bit. In the end, I'll simply reference this lovely clip from YouTube. Enjoy. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgriTO8UHvs
 

Pika

macrumors 68000
Oct 5, 2008
1,759
0
Japan
Ok, the ad is pathetic, Macs are awesome, bla bla bla totally agree.

But this ad has one (and ONLY one) good point. The MacBook Pro is an expensive computer, and expensive computers come with 4GB of RAM. You can argue that it will do as well as a PC with 4GB but that doesn't mean it will be as good as it should be.

Apple should upgrade the minimum RAM of the Pro machines. Simple as that.
Mac OS X's memory management doesn't suck like Vista.... 2GB RAM on OS X feels like 8GB RAM on Windows Vista.
 

Michael CM1

macrumors 603
Feb 4, 2008
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Ok, the ad is pathetic, Macs are awesome, bla bla bla totally agree.

But this ad has one (and ONLY one) good point. The MacBook Pro is an expensive computer, and expensive computers come with 4GB of RAM. You can argue that it will do as well as a PC with 4GB but that doesn't mean it will be as good as it should be.

Apple should upgrade the minimum RAM of the Pro machines. Simple as that.

Apple went with newer RAM (DDR3) instead of older stuff (DDR2). I don't see any problem with the stock unit coming with 2GB. NOTHING I do is limited by RAM. The processor (2.16Ghz C2D) and video card are more drawbacks than RAM, although they haven't caused any problems. Games are coming to the point where they require what I have for a video card, and Handbrake will use every ounce of CPU power you have. I have 3GB of RAM, and it rarely comes close to using 2GB.

Oh yeah, my computer doesn't take a forklift to carry.
 

mkoval11

macrumors member
Mar 30, 2008
38
0
Metro Washington DC Area
What idiot is a film maker who does not use Final Cut Pro. Oh, I guess the ones who use Windows Video Maker. Congratulations, and I can't wait until you win a Oscar. I won't hold my breath. Why are people so stupid? I guess they are getting paid to be that way.

Look you get what you pay for. Good, no great things cost money and 99 times out of a 100 they are worth it. Buy a Timex for $20 and you get a POS, but it still tells time. Buy a Rolex for $8,500 and you have a watch that will last generations. Mac's are not plastic hunks of disposable litter. They are engineered for performance and durability. Buy want you want but buy crap and you'll buy twice.

I agree with you. These ads are a joke that has next to no substance. Microsoft should be ashamed. What in Gods name are they thinking but what can you expect from a company that released BOB, Windows ME and Vista. Need I say more...


Ok, the ad is pathetic, Macs are awesome, bla bla bla totally agree.

But this ad has one (and ONLY one) good point. The MacBook Pro is an expensive computer, and expensive computers come with 4GB of RAM. You can argue that it will do as well as a PC with 4GB but that doesn't mean it will be as good as it should be.

Apple should upgrade the minimum RAM of the Pro machines. Simple as that.
 

NoSmokingBandit

macrumors 68000
Apr 13, 2008
1,579
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Look you get what you pay for. Good, no great things cost money and 99 times out of a 100 they are worth it. Buy a Timex for $20 and you get a POS, but it still tells time. Buy a Rolex for $8,500 and you have a watch that will last generations. Mac's are not plastic hunks of disposable litter. They are engineered for performance and durability. Buy want you want but buy crap and you'll buy twice.

So you are saying it makes more sense, financially, to buy one $8000 watch instead of two $20 watches?
 

bretm

macrumors 68000
Apr 12, 2002
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No, but if you want the MBP to "it just works as good as PC with 4GB RAM" in RAM intensive tasks like Audio/Video editing, you'd want to upgrade the RAM. With 2GB, it's more like "it just about about works".

YOU DONT NEED 4gb of ram!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm a pro. I use 3gigs to run as many apps as I want at the same time. That generally includes FCP, AE, PS, word, mail and safari. I might have dreamweaver open and be uploading via FTP while checking mail, surfing, and rendering animation. Trust me. It just works. All this on a 2 year old mac pro with 3 gig of Ram. Go try that on your 2 year old of with vista. Good freakin luck. Oh, wait, you don't have FCP. Well throw in PREMIERE instead. Let me know how it goes.
 

bretm

macrumors 68000
Apr 12, 2002
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Yeah a "serious" film maker is going to use a PC and a laptop at that for video editing. Do they not know that the industry standard is Final Cut Pro

I'm an FCP editor. I'm sorry man but all your buddies and corporate editing shops are fc, but the industry kid still owned by AVID.
 

Pika

macrumors 68000
Oct 5, 2008
1,759
0
Japan
So you are saying it makes more sense, financially, to buy one $8000 watch instead of two $20 watches?

If it's made of gold and diamond and it's a well know brand then... Yes! because the value of those precious stones and the brand reputation is going up! I expect the watch will value $10000 in the future if you resell it!

The 2 brandless cheapo $20 watch will loose it's value in just one year. Worth nothing for the future.
 

Jimmetry

macrumors member
Feb 11, 2009
56
0
Mac OS X's memory management doesn't suck like Vista.... 2GB RAM on OS X feels like 8GB RAM on Windows Vista.

Yes, the memory management is much better, but 2GB of uncompressed video frames is 2GB of uncompressed video frames and RAM beats swap files. It's a pro machine, not an almost pro machine.

And with all the 'RAM is only $50 :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:' in this thread you'd think that just maybe someone would agree that Apple could spare the $20 they'd pay for it to get rid of pretty much the only defect with the label.
 

Eidorian

macrumors Penryn
Mar 23, 2005
29,190
386
Indianapolis
I find it incredibly amusing that a Windows "fanboi" (GOD I hate that term) joined Macrumors last month in order to troll the threads by insulting Apple users. Even more amusing is that BMWFan sent in the information regarding the new commercial that started this thread. Even MORE amusing is BMWFan's attempt at looking down on the "snobbery" of Apple appreciators who apparently only buy "over priced" and "pretty stuff" when their user name is "BMWFan" (why not a Toyota or Nissan fan? They do their job as luxury automobiles and cost thousands less).

As I have been reading Macrumors for a few years I have read the threads in which commentators have brought the comments of these recent Microsoft ads to a head spinning 3,000+. Needless to say, there were quite a few new members to Macrumors that dominated that discussion.

This debate has gone on for ages and hasn't changed one bit. In the end, I'll simply reference this lovely clip from YouTube. Enjoy.
I started the previous laptop hunter ad thread. I don't think that you should judge someone by their join date.

Mac OS X's memory management doesn't suck like Vista.... 2GB RAM on OS X feels like 8GB RAM on Windows Vista.
Can you elaborate on this?

Apple went with newer RAM (DDR3) instead of older stuff (DDR2). I don't see any problem with the stock unit coming with 2GB. NOTHING I do is limited by RAM. The processor (2.16Ghz C2D) and video card are more drawbacks than RAM, although they haven't caused any problems. Games are coming to the point where they require what I have for a video card, and Handbrake will use every ounce of CPU power you have. I have 3GB of RAM, and it rarely comes close to using 2GB.

Oh yeah, my computer doesn't take a forklift to carry.

YOU DONT NEED 4gb of ram!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm a pro. I use 3gigs to run as many apps as I want at the same time. That generally includes FCP, AE, PS, word, mail and safari. I might have dreamweaver open and be uploading via FTP while checking mail, surfing, and rendering animation. Trust me. It just works. All this on a 2 year old mac pro with 3 gig of Ram. Go try that on your 2 year old of with vista. Good freakin luck. Oh, wait, you don't have FCP. Well throw in PREMIERE instead. Let me know how it goes.
What's with this strange desire to defend Apple's subpar hardware specifications? You get can get machines at half the price with twice the RAM and hard drive capacity. It's rather annoying on top of the sticker price to have to buy additional RAM and a larger hard drive because Apple thought 1 GB of RAM and a 120 GB is enough. I don't want to be upsold by Apple because they've crippled a lower priced model.

In before Vista needs twice the RAM, etc. to run like OS X. I'm serious.
 

Jimmetry

macrumors member
Feb 11, 2009
56
0
What about ssa/ass subtitle files? These are very popular in the anime fansub community. Will fansubbers be able to hardsub them onto avi for distrubution?

That's really your argument? Think about what you're saying.

Google: convert ssa to srt mac
Second Result: http://forum.videohelp.com/topic349909.html
First Reply: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Jubler

Don't ever believe there's anything a PC can do that a Mac can't (except when it comes to high-end gaming). Apple has a very significant user base and Macs are very popular among developers. On top of that, it's pretty easy to port things from Linux to OSX. Everything exists, so don't give me this semen load of "THEN WHY CAN'T MY MAC DO THIS?!"
 

dsnort

macrumors 68000
Jan 28, 2006
1,904
68
In persona non grata
I recently toyed with the idea of buying a PC laptop for work and installing Ubuntu Linux on it. This was based entirely on price, the PC would have been cheaper.

However, after a trip to my local Best Buy where I could see the two comps side by side, I bought the Uni-body MBP.

I never thought the way a comp looked would matter to me, but there was just no comparison.

The PC's are attractive, in the way a crack whore with a ton of make up is attractive in the right light, after a case or two of beer!

The MBP is just beautiful. It's a Mona Lisa in a crowd of circus clowns!

Add in the extra functionality of Mac OS X, and PC's just can't get cheap enough, IMO.
 

sammich

macrumors 601
Sep 26, 2006
4,305
268
Sarcasmville.
Speaking of overpriced things: in the 2nd last scene when she's walking from the store; she walks past a lovely 6 series (650i?) soft-top. Surely there is some connection there.
 
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