I watched it four times to find the clue, when i linked it with the top banner i loved it. Marketing guys would kill for an add like this, grabbing the attention of a visitor is hard to do and letting them watch it over and over is even harder.
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I watched it four times to find the clue, when i linked it with the top banner i loved it. Marketing guys would kill for an add like this, grabbing the attention of a visitor is hard to do and letting them watch it over and over is even harder.
MS - Apple agreement
From the old times where MS had AAPL stocks a lot there is a (hidden?) agreement that MS supports Apple OSX with MS Office and vice versa Apple does NOT release OS X free for PCs.
Best, Confidemus
From the old times where MS had AAPL stocks a lot there is a (hidden?) agreement that MS supports Apple OSX with MS Office and vice versa Apple does NOT release OS X free for PCs.
Best, Confidemus
Hm...what are all these problems plaguing Vista users in this forum? I know that this is a Mac forum, so most people are using OS X, but seriously, what issues are people here having with Vista? I'm using a Vista box I assembled from scratch, and it runs really well. It goes to sleep and wakes up w/o any issues, two monitor setup runs great, don't have any viruses or malware (last time I have a virus in XP must have been over 8 years ago), my Epson 2200 prints great (whereas I really have a hard time printing from my Apple computers - G5 tower, PBG4, macbook - drivers aren't great for the 2200, and I can't get my Samsung c600 network printer to work on the Macs, either). Never got the blue screen of death, the computer hasn't frozen on me yet, etc. Programs have crashed (specially when I'm converting some large vector graphics into JPGs or something), but nothing that brought down the whole system.
I mean, is it an urban legend thing where people say that Vista is bad, so it must be bad or are people actually writing from personal experience? By the way, isn't Tiger 10.4x? I'm still on Tiger (will upgrade to Leopard next January when I get my new macbook pro), and it has its share of problems (programs crashing, wireless not working after coming out of sleep, etc.). Both platforms perform well, so much so that I have no qualms of using either OS, unless it comes to printing, where I'll usually send a PDF from the Mac to a Windows box and print from there.
Oh, and back to the topic at hand
God bless Macrumors ! I've never seen such an open-minded forum for Mac users.
What the **** are you talking about?
And by the way, where is the support for network printers in OS X? Oh yeah, it's not supported.
Anyway, as a Vista user and a Mac user, if find this ad somewhat insulting. I have been using Vista on my gaming computer for few months now without issue. It doesn't crash applications anymore than my macs do, which isn't very often. I have yet to have a complete system crash. All my applications run great, with the exception of BF2, and that's really EA's fault.
Frankly I am surprised at how quickly Microsoft has managed to stabilize Visa since it's initial launch. Even though SP 1 hasn't been released yet, some of the other system updates seem to have fixed most major problems. Does Vista still have it's quirks after a year? Yes. Does Tiger still have quirks? Yes. Are either operating systems completely perfect? No.
I noticed that the ad didn't even point out a single positive of the OS X platform, all it did was tell me to "give up on Vista" because apparently I have been having problems I haven't noticed.
Because it's a Flash ad, Safari's CPU usage on my MacBook goes through the roof, and the fan starts whining like a jet engine.
Yeah, great ad.
(After 12 years of using great, trouble-free PowerBooks, I "upgraded" to a MacBook, which has been little better than a bucket of bolts with a fan that never stops wooshing.)
Yeah, great ad.
(After 12 years of using great, trouble-free PowerBooks, I "upgraded" to a MacBook, which has been little better than a bucket of bolts with a fan that never stops wooshing.)
Grow up Apple
I'm both a PC and a Mac user. I run Vista on a Dell XPS, and Leopard on a MacBook.
I have to say that I get really fed up of Apple's playground behavior. Instead of spending their entire advertising budget on telling people how bad the competition is, why don't they just sing the praises of Leopard? All these PC vs Mac adverts simply make me wonder why I'm using a product from such a childish company.
Okay, I'm sure some people find them funny, but in my experience, it simply isn't true. To be honest, Leopard crashes on me more than Vista does (which is incredible when you think that Apple not only produces the software, but also the hardware). I haven't seen a BSOD on my Windows machine for years, and I don't think I've ever seen one since Windows-98 which wasn't due to a hardware failure. I like both Vista and OSX, and use both daily. However, Apples arrogance is really beginning to get to me.
Grow up Steve.
I'm both a PC and a Mac user. I run Vista on a Dell XPS, and Leopard on a MacBook.
I have to say that I get really fed up of Apple's playground behavior. Instead of spending their entire advertising budget on telling people how bad the competition is, why don't they just sing the praises of Leopard? All these PC vs Mac adverts simply make me wonder why I'm using a product from such a childish company.
Okay, I'm sure some people find them funny, but in my experience, it simply isn't true. To be honest, Leopard crashes on me more than Vista does (which is incredible when you think that Apple not only produces the software, but also the hardware). I haven't seen a BSOD on my Windows machine for years, and I don't think I've ever seen one since Windows-98 which wasn't due to a hardware failure. I like both Vista and OSX, and use both daily. However, Apples arrogance is really beginning to get to me.
Grow up Steve.
What i found hilarious was i went to News.com several times and refreshed it, and i still got the same thing. I got the banner at the top saying DON'T GIVE UP ON VISTA, but not the advert on the side, which played the one at the top. So to sum up, Apple have paid for massive banners saying "DONT GIVE UP ON VISTA" as far as i'm concerned
I guess the arguing over at Apple goes that if people is intelligent enough to use an adblocker they can handle Windows with no issues.
The ironic part is, if I load it in Safari it crashes my browser. Way to go Apple.
Hate to be heavy handed with a 'Macrumors newbie' (I'm one myself) but this is typical of the kind of comments there have been too much of lately - people having problems which are undoubtedly to do with the configuration of their own machines/systems who then immediately blame Apple products or engineers when something doesn't work. If a flash ad on a site doesn't work on your machine and it works on everybody else's then it is pretty much certain that it's to do with your own individual set-up and not anything to do with Apple's programmers. Why don't you look into the problem first and try and work out what's going on, before blaming other people?
The first time I watched it, I didn't get it because I ignored the Top banner. But then I saw it and found it extremely funny.
I think that it is ok for Apple to bash Vista because I had to use it from a professional point of view and there are SOOO many inconsistencies in the user experience. Many things that were ok in XP that are now weird to use.
I know that it takes some time to get used to it. But Vista would have a tough time for me. The new security system is completely screwed up. You agree on something that you even have no clue about. When I see a password prompt on Mac I have the feeling that it is coming for a very good reason, and in case I didn't expect it I check why it is coming. In Vista you have no chance to figure out WHY it is coming.
And then there is this AWFUL 64 Bit support. When you installed the 64 Bit version you need to make sure that everything else is 64 Bit too. Because otherwise it might happen that the browser does not load the flash plugin etc..
And finding Vista 64 Bit drivers for my hardware was really difficult even tough I do not consider it outdated.
The new UI had some very bad features as defaults. Like hiding the triangle in a TreeView. This way you have to the tree to see if you can collapse it. (At least you can change that) Than there is this strange scrolling horizontally feature in a tree..
What I really liked about Vista was the new Mixer. I think it is a very good idea to have multiple controls for all running applications.
It is not all Microsoft that screwed up on Vista but it is also the manufacturers that do not supply the drivers. But I am mostly a Mac user, I know that there is world without those problems. But other ones like freezing iMacs. But I still LOVE working on Mac OS X.
I think that it is ok for Apple to bash Vista because I had to use it from a professional point of view and there are SOOO many inconsistencies in the user experience. Many things that were ok in XP that are now weird to use.
I know that it takes some time to get used to it. But Vista would have a tough time for me. The new security system is completely screwed up. You agree on something that you even have no clue about. When I see a password prompt on Mac I have the feeling that it is coming for a very good reason, and in case I didn't expect it I check why it is coming. In Vista you have no chance to figure out WHY it is coming.
And then there is this AWFUL 64 Bit support. When you installed the 64 Bit version you need to make sure that everything else is 64 Bit too. Because otherwise it might happen that the browser does not load the flash plugin etc..
And finding Vista 64 Bit drivers for my hardware was really difficult even tough I do not consider it outdated.
The new UI had some very bad features as defaults. Like hiding the triangle in a TreeView. This way you have to the tree to see if you can collapse it. (At least you can change that) Than there is this strange scrolling horizontally feature in a tree..
What I really liked about Vista was the new Mixer. I think it is a very good idea to have multiple controls for all running applications.
It is not all Microsoft that screwed up on Vista but it is also the manufacturers that do not supply the drivers. But I am mostly a Mac user, I know that there is world without those problems. But other ones like freezing iMacs. But I still LOVE working on Mac OS X.
Which also works in their favor. Why in the WORLD would Microsoft put out an ad that says "Don't Give Up on Vista"? It's a very pathetic and self-loathing ad if ever there was one.What i found hilarious was i went to News.com several times and refreshed it, and i still got the same thing. I got the banner at the top saying DON'T GIVE UP ON VISTA, but not the advert on the side, which played the one at the top. So to sum up, Apple have paid for massive banners saying "DONT GIVE UP ON VISTA" as far as i'm concerned
I'd totally buy a t-shirt with this on it. The "Give Up" highlighted, Hodgman whacking the buzzer, and Justin Long shaking his head. Back of the shirt? "Get a Mac". --Hm... I might Cafe Press one up for myself this weekend.
~ CB
You and your coworkers need to loosen up. These ads are not pointed to organizations or the Enterprise. If your network, security and administrators (and your users are semi-competent) folks know what they are doing none of your computers should be compromised (all of us know that the loose nut behind the keyboard is the real problem). This is aimed at the home user. Plus, they are funny ads.
I have to agree with this. OSX is a great OS and I just wish Apple would focus on promoting what's good with OSX rather then bashing Windows. I think the majority of Windows users are running a stable platform and see through the (sometimes) gross exaggerations in Apples commercials.
I for instance have been running Vista on one box since release. This machine has never crashed or had any instability issues. There are of course other issues with Vista but then again, Leopard BSoD crash at install was irony at it's best.
I love my apple machine (xxx) but I also love my pc. Promote whats good about OSX and I think apple will appeal to an even larger crowd. Ridiculing the choice of your potential customers ridicules their intelligence, and no one likes to be ridiculed
Well, I can often hear the argument that "OS X just works because the hardware and software is designed for each other! Windows has problems because it has to support hozillion different machines". And five seconds later when someone has problems with OS X, he gets told that "There must be something wrong with the configuration of your machine....".
That "individual set-up" would be OS X running on Apple-hardware, right? Just like 99.5% of all OS X's out there are?
Like it or not, you CAN have issues with OS X. When I upgraded to 10.4.11 and got Safari3 with it, the Google-searchbar stopped working. Just like that. Is that my fault somehow? How? What did I do wrong?
"My searchbar was working before, but after updating to 10.4.11 it's no longer working. It's obviously my fault"
Laughed out loud. Loved it
Without reading into it, or Apple, it just came across as genuinely funny.
Without reading into it, or Apple, it just came across as genuinely funny.
Huh, what a harsh response.
Are you seriously suggesting that the guy should grab himself some debugger and should try to figure out what is wrong with the software that is supplied and installed on his system?
I was having a Safari crash myself while browsing the Apple webpages. I do not know what caused this crash and I simply don't care. I have not tinkered with Safari in any way besides to install Stand. So it is my fault that Safari crashed? I expect software that is robust. Meaning whatever the ordinary user is throwing at it it should swallow and give me a sensible response. If it does not able to handle this I tend to blame the developer and in this case it is Apple.
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Hmm, interesting. They do show "praises" of the iPhone and iPods. However, I like these Mac ads because they rely on comparison (Read a Marketing 101 book) and humour.
My favourite so far is "Choose a Vista." Hodgman is definitely the star. So funny guy.
Hmm, interesting. They do show "praises" of the iPhone and iPods. However, I like these Mac ads because they rely on comparison (Read a Marketing 101 book) and humour.
My favourite so far is "Choose a Vista." Hodgman is definitely the star. So funny guy.