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I’ve said nothing wrong. It’s not worth this exchange anymore. The 6.1” iPhone will be no lower than $650. The X 2nd gen will not be lower than $900. It won’t be cheaper in any other countries. Your predictios are simply wrong. Goodbye, and enjoy seeing the truth in a month.
I wasn't talking about my predictions but Apple market share outside the US by country. I think you may be so obsessed you may not actually be reading what you are writing which was in fact incorrect on market share.

oh and btw- I had about 6 price predictions on there plus volumes and ASP for the quarter and if I get more than half right I'll be pretty pleased -- "which you will enjoy seeing in a month"
 
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I wasn't talking about my predictions but Apple market share outside the US by country. I think you may be so obsessed you may not actually be reading what you are writing which was in fact incorrect on market share.

oh and btw- I had about 6 price predictions on there plus volumes and ASP for the quarter and if I get more than half right I'll be pretty pleased -- "which you will enjoy seeing in a month"
I never said a single thing about market share.
 
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X plus price now either 1199 or 1249
Based on Samsung’s pricing

Disagree. I think Apple will have the X Plus start around $1150 or under for the base storage. I don’t think it will be priced as high as Samsung’s phones. Especially if Apple does reduce the price of the 5.8 iPhone X, then It would make somewhat sense if the X Plus starts where the 2017 iPhone X did at $1000.
 
Here are my guesses for pricing, and this is based off of two assumptions. The first is that the iPhone 8 is selling very very well at the $699 price point, and the second is that the X is also selling fairly well at the $999 price point.

iPhone 9 (6.1 inch screen): $699
iPhone Xs: $899
iPhone Plus: $999

In general I think Apple is going to have a super cycle this year due to the iPhone 9 selling really well. They can potentially keep the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus around as lower cost models too. I currently have a Galaxy S9 (i bounce back and forth b/w Apple and Samsung), but I'm tempted to get a used 2017 iPhone X, or the 2018 iPhone XS.


I agree with this. The iPhone X might sell well in the US, but in Canada I haven't seen many of them. iPhones were always expensive, but the 1300$ price tag in Canada means it's a 800$ phone on a 2 year contract. Not many people willing to spend that much when older models are either free or 200$ on contracts.
 
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Disagree. I think Apple will have the X Plus start around $1150 or under for the base storage. I don’t think it will be priced as high as Samsung’s phones. Especially if Apple does reduce the price of the 5.8 iPhone X, then It would make somewhat sense if the X Plus starts where the 2017 iPhone X did at $1000.

So basically for the X Plus they will start it at what the current X is at 999 and make the 256 X Plus at 1149 like its now, since this a S cycle it does not make sense to raise the price to the Samsung Note 9 prices.
 
So basically for the X Plus they will start it at what the current X is at 999 and make the 256 X Plus at 1149 like its now, since this a S cycle it does not make sense to raise the price to the Samsung Note 9 prices.
Samsung tends to discount those prices and this year they are at 999 for a 6.4 inch screen.

Some rumors have the X+ at $899. Does seem weird to have the note at 999 tho and Apple cheaper with same size screen.
 
The idea that Apple is cutting prices on *any* phone after a successful year of *raising* prices on all of its phones is kind of laughable

iPhone 9 will cost the same as iPhone 8

iPhone Xs will cost the same as iPhone X ($999)

iPhone Xs+ will cost $100-$150 more than the iPhone Xs+
 
When you walk into an iPhone store, Apple's goal will be for you to leave with an iPhone. If you want a big screen but find the Xs+ too expensive, the 6.1LCD version will give you a good compromise between size and price.
 
The idea that Apple is cutting prices on *any* phone after a successful year of *raising* prices on all of its phones is kind of laughable

iPhone 9 will cost the same as iPhone 8

iPhone Xs will cost the same as iPhone X ($999)

iPhone Xs+ will cost $100-$150 more than the iPhone Xs+

I have to agree.

This was how I originally felt, but then got caught up in the “lowering the price of the Xs” rumor. Only before, I was shooting higher with the 9 being $799. After Samsung’s debut yesterday, I was inclined to revise that thinking and go back to what makes most sense when dealing with Apple.

The 9 and Xs will remain in line with last year’s pricing as a best case scenario. “All new design and upgrades for same price as the previous models; it’s truly magical!”

The 6.5 Plus is coming in over $1K at $1099 base and $1199 or $1249 for the 256GB. There will be stunned silence, but many will still buy, while others will be glad for the 6.1” 9 option.

I’m sticking with this until I’m proven either right or wrong at the keynote. It’s not like I’m winning a prize anyway, lol.
 
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The idea that Apple is cutting prices on *any* phone after a successful year of *raising* prices on all of its phones is kind of laughable

iPhone 9 will cost the same as iPhone 8

iPhone Xs will cost the same as iPhone X ($999)

iPhone Xs+ will cost $100-$150 more than the iPhone Xs+
Laughable is an awfully cocky position to take.

Would you care to make a $100 wager that the X will not get a price drop this year? Because I will take the other side of your statement.
 
When you walk into an iPhone store, Apple's goal will be for you to leave with an iPhone. If you want a big screen but find the Xs+ too expensive, the 6.1LCD version will give you a good compromise between size and price.

I don’t think that’s there goal, I think they try to help the customer find suitable phone _if_ it meets their needs. For the record, I have never had Apple make me ‘feel’ like I need to Purchase an iPhone.
 
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I don't really think Apple will lower price of the X, there is no reason for them to do it. Apple knows they need cheaper new model and that's why there will be this weird 6.1".

I guess the prices will be like this:

iPhone 9 (6.1") – $699 for 64gb, $849 for 256gb (same as the iPhone 8)
iPhone Xs – $999 / $1149
iPhone Xs Plus $1149 / $1299 and maybe 512gb model for like $1399 / $1499 (like one of the Plus-only features)

What is quite ridiculous is this fact (but I know you don't care):

Here in Czech republic, the iPhone X 256gb is currently 34 490 CZK, which is right now $1530 (using basic Google currency converter). The Note 9 512gb is gonna be around 32 500 CZK which is around $1450.

BUT! In the US, the original price of Note 9 is $1250 and the iPhone X is $1149. The Apple prices in EU are soo unfair. I can imagine the top spec Xs Plus is gonna be like 41 990 CZK which is around $1850.
 
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I don't really think Apple will lower price of the X, there is no reason for them to do it. Apple knows they need cheaper new model and that's why there will be this weird 6.1".

I guess the prices will be like this:

iPhone 9 (6.1") – $699 for 64gb, $849 for 256gb (same as the iPhone 8)
iPhone Xs – $999 / $1149
iPhone Xs Plus $1149 / $1299 and maybe 512gb model for like $1399 / $1499 (like one of the Plus-only features)

What is quite ridiculous is this fact (but I know you don't care):

Here in Czech republic, the iPhone X 256gb is currently 34 490 CZK, which is right now $1530 (using basic Google currency converter). The Note 9 512gb is gonna be around 32 500 CZK which is around $1450.

BUT! In the US, the original price of Note 9 is $1250 and the iPhone X is $1149. The Apple prices in EU are soo unfair. I can imagine the top spec Xs Plus is gonna be like 41 990 CZK which is around $1850.
The difference between US and EU price though is the EU prices include tax where the US price is before the tax is added.
 
The difference between US and EU price though is the EU prices include tax where the US price is before the tax is added.

So tired reading this. You don't even read what I wrote.

The sales tax in the US is somewhere between 5-10%. So the $1149 iPhone costs max. $1260-$1270 in the US, which is still like $300 less it costs here in Czech republic.
 
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Still no signs of cheaper pricing really, or increases in storage, I expect they new iPhones to start with 64GB, and the premium ones to go to 256GB, the cheaper one to go to 128GB, poor value at any rate.
I will wait to see what the 8 and 8 Plus drop to, I think the 8 Plus could end up being a much better offering then this iPhone 9 6.1” device.
I think the new 11 Plus 256GB will be £1350, and people will still gleefully buy it... you’ll be talking of £90 a month contracts for an iPhone!
 
So tired reading this. You don't even read what I wrote.

The sales tax in the US is somewhere between 5-10%. So the $1149 iPhone costs max. $1260-$1270 in the US, which is still like $300 less it costs here in Czech republic.

I see this complaint a lot and when I'm in Europe going to an Apple store I've seen the prices myself and refuse to pay them so- I care and sympathize.

However, there are a lot of posts on this. the differences include:

1) The EU has vastly more comprehensive warranty policies that are longer in duration and broader in coverage relating to consumer protection. In the US Apple care can be 300-400+ for extra years and coverage on Apple care.

2) Tariffs in the EU on imports

3) You mentioned sales tax that is 0 in 1-2 states but ututally around 7-10%.

These differences should be stickied since it's a fairly prevailing state of confusion and complaint. Ways around this are to buy abroad from eBay/swappa or similar or get the EU to stop the tariffs and excessive warranty requirements. You also won't pay US sales tax either.
 
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Still no signs of cheaper pricing really, or increases in storage, I expect they new iPhones to start with 64GB, and the premium ones to go to 256GB, the cheaper one to go to 128GB, poor value at any rate.
I will wait to see what the 8 and 8 Plus drop to, I think the 8 Plus could end up being a much better offering then this iPhone 9 6.1” device.
I think the new 11 Plus 256GB will be £1350, and people will still gleefully buy it... you’ll be talking of £90 a month contracts for an iPhone!

Don’t see it being quite as high as that, £1,249 ?
 
Still no signs of cheaper pricing really, or increases in storage, I expect they new iPhones to start with 64GB, and the premium ones to go to 256GB, the cheaper one to go to 128GB, poor value at any rate.
I will wait to see what the 8 and 8 Plus drop to, I think the 8 Plus could end up being a much better offering then this iPhone 9 6.1” device.
I think the new 11 Plus 256GB will be £1350, and people will still gleefully buy it... you’ll be talking of £90 a month contracts for an iPhone!
Yeah the 8 series seems like the best upgrade option next month as by the sounds of it with wireless charging and 3DTouch it’ll be a better device than the 6.1” LCD, not to mention cheaper.

The contract prices for the X have been ridiculous and if we think this years iPhones will be cheaper I think we are dreaming. I’m due to upgrade now and the iPhone X is still full price whereas the 8 has come down a bit. Next month I expect it to come down again. I don’t know how anybody can justify a £100+ a month contract and it seems the X struggled against older devices here anyway.

I never thought I’d see the day when the latest iPhone was not the most popular, but times have changed I suppose.
 
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Don’t see it being quite as high as that, £1,249 ?

On the front page of this site it has quoted a few analysts predicting the new 11 Plus Starting from $1200, now as we know, Apple converts that directly to 1 dollar for 1 pound, so the top storage model going by the X pricing difference between storage models of £149, will be £1349. IMO

Yeah the 8 series seems like the best upgrade option next month as by the sounds of it with wireless charging and 3DTouch it’ll be a better device than the 6.1” LCD, not to mention cheaper.

The contract prices for the X have been ridiculous and if we think this years iPhones will be cheaper I think we are dreaming. I’m due to upgrade now and the iPhone X is still full price whereas the 8 has come down a bit. Next month I expect it to come down again. I don’t know how anybody can justify a £100+ a month contract and it seems the X struggled against older devices here anyway.

I never thought I’d see the day when the latest iPhone was not the most popular, but times have changed I suppose.

Yeap, if the 6.1” does drop 3D Touch, it’s not worth it. The 6, 6S, 7 and 8 all had it. But analysts are saying the 6.1” won’t yet it’ll be priced in between the 8 and 8 Plus. Plus it’ll lose a camera lens.
Apple is forcing its customers to spend a lot more then they used to, I say no to that.. if the X drops in price I still think it’ll be around the £850 mark, which is still too much for 64GB storage.

They are putting an awful lot of hope in this iPhone 9 device..
 
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Still no signs of cheaper pricing really, or increases in storage, I expect they new iPhones to start with 64GB, and the premium ones to go to 256GB, the cheaper one to go to 128GB, poor value at any rate.
I will wait to see what the 8 and 8 Plus drop to, I think the 8 Plus could end up being a much better offering then this iPhone 9 6.1” device.
I think the new 11 Plus 256GB will be £1350, and people will still gleefully buy it... you’ll be talking of £90 a month contracts for an iPhone!

There won’t be any signs until keynote

Reporters have said £999 for X plus and £899 for iPhone X. Those reports are all we can go on right now
 
Yeap, if the 6.1” does drop 3D Touch, it’s not worth it. The 6, 6S, 7 and 8 all had it. But analysts are saying the 6.1” won’t yet it’ll be priced in between the 8 and 8 Plus. Plus it’ll lose a camera lens.
Apple is forcing its customers to spend a lot more then they used to, I say no to that.. if the X drops in price I still think it’ll be around the £850 mark, which is still too much for 64GB storage.

They are putting an awful lot of hope in this iPhone 9 device..
Yeah I just can’t get my head around buying a device that is rumoured not to have 3DTouch, a feature that has been present for 3 years now on 6 variations of iPhone. Add to that wireless charging which Apple finally brought to their devices last year after lagging behind their competitors in that regard, only for it to be left off the 6.1” LCD according to industry analysts.

All because Apple want it to feel cheaper than the X variant. That doesn’t sit well for me and a new look won’t gloss over the lack of fundamental features for my usage. I just wish the prices of the 8 could go down now and I could upgrade and get a better data package as the one I have now (1GB a month) is pants. I’m itching for the new iPhones to come out for the opposite reason lol.
 
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I don't really think Apple will lower price of the X, there is no reason for them to do it. Apple knows they need cheaper new model and that's why there will be this weird 6.1".

I disagree. Multiple sources have said that Apple is expected to lower the 5.8 iPhone X to $899. Reason being, is technology progresses and Matures, and now having enough supplier components, prices do eventually reduce. The same applies to other technology that’s brand new starts at a premium, and then eventually will start to subside over the course of time. I think Apple wants to make the pricing more competitive this year and make way for the 6.5 iPhone X with the base storage starting between $999.00-$1100.
 
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I disagree. Multiple sources have said that Apple is expected to lower the 5.8 iPhone X to $899. Reason being, is technology progresses and Matures, and now having enough supplier components, prices do eventually reduce. The same applies to other technology that’s brand new starts at a premium, and then eventually will start to subside over the course of time. I think Apple wants to make the pricing more competitive this year and make way for the 6.5 iPhone X with the base storage starting between $999.00-$1100.

I would agree with you back in 2010-2014, but just look what Apple did with the 12" MB. Everybody thought it's gonna replace the MBA and that it will match the MBA price. Three and half years later we still have the MBA and the MB is still for the same price.

If Apple is lowering the price, why even bother with some 6.1" LCD X-like phone. They could make the 8 the entry level and the X the medium priced one.
 
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