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tjl3

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I did a restore on mine, and seems to have helped. Also force stopping Google play services, or Google search will do the trick. It seems those two things have some issues with wakelocks, and force stopping them fixes the battery drain.

Did you do a restore from your phone or flash the factory image? Does performance differ between the two methods (not necessarily a question directed to you)?

Are you constantly having to force stop Google Services or are you doing it once per boot?
 

bmac4

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Did you do a restore from your phone or flash the factory image? Does performance differ between the two methods (not necessarily a question directed to you)?

Are you constantly having to force stop Google Services or are you doing it once per boot?

I restored from the phone, and I do force stop Google search maybe twice a day.
 

Jschultz

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Mar 14, 2005
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I restored from the phone, and I do force stop Google search maybe twice a day.

Does Google services include Google Now? I've had two instances where I had to do hard reboot due to my Google Now screen 'stuck' on 'thinking' (when you swipe down to refresh and that multi-colored bar at the top is going.)
 

bmac4

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Does Google services include Google Now? I've had two instances where I had to do hard reboot due to my Google Now screen 'stuck' on 'thinking' (when you swipe down to refresh and that multi-colored bar at the top is going.)

Play services and search are different
 

milo

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Sep 23, 2003
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Are people seeing the update OTA or downloading from the web and putting it on manually?
 

d3v1l.cr0

macrumors member
Feb 24, 2012
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Am I the only one not getting this update? Or is it only possible to manually install it? I'm not getting anything new when I click "check for updates". Just curious.
 

milo

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Sep 23, 2003
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Android updates are notoriously slow, many users don't see them for days if not a couple weeks. Don't bother hitting the button to check for updates, they only roll them out to a fraction of users at a time, you'll get it when you get it.
 

d3v1l.cr0

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Feb 24, 2012
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Android updates are notoriously slow, many users don't see them for days if not a couple weeks. Don't bother hitting the button to check for updates, they only roll them out to a fraction of users at a time, you'll get it when you get it.

Thanks for clearing that up! I'm on Android for the first time since 2010, so I'm not sure how things are working nowadays. :D
 

IFRIT

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Oct 15, 2012
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Android updates are notoriously slow, many users don't see them for days if not a couple weeks. Don't bother hitting the button to check for updates, they only roll them out to a fraction of users at a time, you'll get it when you get it.

Better a staggered release then the giant cluster ***** that is a iOS major release. :p
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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McKinney, TX
Better a staggered release then the giant cluster ***** that is a iOS major release. :p

Better how? As a user, I have to wait a few hours tops to get the latest iOS release.....

I'm still waiting for 4.4.1 (a POINT release) on my Nexus 5. How many Nexus devices are out there that will actually get this update? Certainly there are FAR more iOS devices out in the world than Nexus devices.
 

tjl3

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Mar 8, 2012
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Better how? As a user, I have to wait a few hours tops to get the latest iOS release.....

I'm still waiting for 4.4.1 (a POINT release) on my Nexus 5. How many Nexus devices are out there that will actually get this update? Certainly there are FAR more iOS devices out in the world than Nexus devices.

I agree with this. I've never had an issue w/ installing any iOS release. But I find that I am always impatiently waiting up to 4 weeks for any Nexus device I have ever owned to receive an update.
 

Vegastouch

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Jul 12, 2008
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I agree with this. I've never had an issue w/ installing any iOS release. But I find that I am always impatiently waiting up to 4 weeks for any Nexus device I have ever owned to receive an update.

It has never taking me that long to get it after it was announced it was released. Most people are just impatient. Its just an update, its not like your phone quits working til you get it.
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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It has never taking me that long to get it after it was announced it was released. Most people are just impatient. Its just an update, its not like your phone quits working til you get it.

Ehh true, but for things like camera fixes and bug fixes, its nice to have if its supposedly already been released.

I just don't understand how Google can't handle a one-time roll out to Nexus devices when Apple is able (with some delays true, but I've never gone more than a few hours) to hit ALL iOS devices with said update at the same time.

It would've been nicer to have the updated camera software for some cool pics of the ice I took this weekend. Same as I feel about Apple rolling out big fixes and iOS 7.1. When it's released I would expect to have it same day as I'd like my music app to stop crashing.

We all know and assume we're talking first world problems here. Comparatively speaking though it just seems Google could do better for those of us who don't feel like flashing manually and simply like the clean, vanilla look and feel of stock Android.
 

bmac4

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Ehh true, but for things like camera fixes and bug fixes, its nice to have if its supposedly already been released.

I just don't understand how Google can't handle a one-time roll out to Nexus devices when Apple is able (with some delays true, but I've never gone more than a few hours) to hit ALL iOS devices with said update at the same time.

It would've been nicer to have the updated camera software for some cool pics of the ice I took this weekend. Same as I feel about Apple rolling out big fixes and iOS 7.1. When it's released I would expect to have it same day as I'd like my music app to stop crashing.

We all know and assume we're talking first world problems here. Comparatively speaking though it just seems Google could do better for those of us who don't feel like flashing manually and simply like the clean, vanilla look and feel of stock Android.

The only problem I have with iOS updates is that on day one you may have wait times of 2 or 3 hours. I have also seen them stall out.
 

mattopotamus

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Jun 12, 2012
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Ehh true, but for things like camera fixes and bug fixes, its nice to have if its supposedly already been released.

I just don't understand how Google can't handle a one-time roll out to Nexus devices when Apple is able (with some delays true, but I've never gone more than a few hours) to hit ALL iOS devices with said update at the same time.

It would've been nicer to have the updated camera software for some cool pics of the ice I took this weekend. Same as I feel about Apple rolling out big fixes and iOS 7.1. When it's released I would expect to have it same day as I'd like my music app to stop crashing.

We all know and assume we're talking first world problems here. Comparatively speaking though it just seems Google could do better for those of us who don't feel like flashing manually and simply like the clean, vanilla look and feel of stock Android.

they roll it out in batches in case there are errors or bugs for users. It is not that they cannot manage...it's just a strategic roll out to avoid chaos if something went wrong.
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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The only problem I have with iOS updates is that on day one you may have wait times of 2 or 3 hours. I have also seen them stall out.

So I'd rather wait 2-3 hours on Day 1 than wait multiple days, sometimes weeks.

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they roll it out in batches in case there are errors or bugs for users. It is not that they cannot manage...it's just a strategic roll out to avoid chaos if something went wrong.

Wouldn't that be what testing is for? Shouldn't the update be ready to go when they roll it out?

I don't get the strategy of it. Forget the fact that the Nexus devices are "beta" devices to begin with (in that most popular consumer devices don't seen the latest version for months), does Google not have a beta period during which the software is tested?

Again, we're talking about Nexus devices here. How many of them are there that a massive error is a serious possibility?
 

WilliamBateman

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Nov 7, 2013
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So I'd rather wait 2-3 hours on Day 1 than wait multiple days, sometimes weeks.

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Wouldn't that be what testing is for? Shouldn't the update be ready to go when they roll it out?

I don't get the strategy of it. Forget the fact that the Nexus devices are "beta" devices to begin with (in that most popular consumer devices don't seen the latest version for months), does Google not have a beta period during which the software is tested?

Again, we're talking about Nexus devices here. How many of them are there that a massive error is a serious possibility?


Really is amazing isn't it? Apple can get a major OS release available to many millions of iPhones and iPads within an hour or two but Google has trouble getting a minor update out to far less Nexus devices. Google can't even handle a phone launch correctly, so this shouldn't really be a surprise. You would think they would get the hang of this by now. Its just another reason why Apple and the iPhone are still at the top when it comes to the end user experience despite iOS's shortcomings.
 

bmac4

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So I'd rather wait 2-3 hours on Day 1 than wait multiple days, sometimes weeks.

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Wouldn't that be what testing is for? Shouldn't the update be ready to go when they roll it out?

I don't get the strategy of it. Forget the fact that the Nexus devices are "beta" devices to begin with (in that most popular consumer devices don't seen the latest version for months), does Google not have a beta period during which the software is tested?

Again, we're talking about Nexus devices here. How many of them are there that a massive error is a serious possibility?

Oh I agree. I just was frustrated when iOS 7 was released, and I had a wait time of 4 hours, and it stopped downloading twice. No but doing that is better than waiting weeks.
 
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