Nexus-N/Pixel XL ( 2016 )

[JaySoul]

The HTC 10 is lowkey a damn good phone that's gone under the radar.

I can see an HTC Nexus being very popular, as long as the camera is good enough (which last year, it was). Also if they can subsidise the price a bit, that would help steal away Apple/Samsung users.

 

[BlankSlate]

after seeing leaked images of the Nexus Sailfish, I fear the Marlin will have those huge bezels too. Hopefully these two nexus phones won't look too much alike, even though that seems to be the rumor, sadly.

 

[epicrayban]

http://www.droid-life.com/2016/08/1...cus-going-forward-allo-becomes-consumer-star/

Hangouts Will Get a Business Focus Going Forward as Allo Becomes the Consumer Star

According to Google’s Nick Fox who spoke with Engadget, Hangouts won’t be going anywhere and is going to continue to live on as its frustrating self, but as it grows, it may get a business focus. That means that Allo is going to be the consumer star that Google will want you to use for messaging with friends and family.

Fox says that some of the Hangouts focus for the enterprise has to do with it being attached to your Google account and the access that brings to other Google services (Gmail, Calendar, Drive, etc.). On the other hand, it’s just not that simple of an app with its all-in-one approach, yet does work good as a collaboration tool. And that’s probably where we’ll continue to see it grow is in the collaboration space.

 

[spinedoc77]

http://www.droid-life.com/2016/08/1...cus-going-forward-allo-becomes-consumer-star/

Hangouts Will Get a Business Focus Going Forward as Allo Becomes the Consumer Star

According to Google’s Nick Fox who spoke with Engadget, Hangouts won’t be going anywhere and is going to continue to live on as its frustrating self, but as it grows, it may get a business focus. That means that Allo is going to be the consumer star that Google will want you to use for messaging with friends and family.

Fox says that some of the Hangouts focus for the enterprise has to do with it being attached to your Google account and the access that brings to other Google services (Gmail, Calendar, Drive, etc.). On the other hand, it’s just not that simple of an app with its all-in-one approach, yet does work good as a collaboration tool. And that’s probably where we’ll continue to see it grow is in the collaboration space.

Just combine them and be done with it for god's sake. You're never going to win against the imessage juggernaut unless you stop the nonsense of having multiple iterations of the same function in different packages. Why is Google emulating the early 2000's Microsoft in their lack of direction?

 

[epicrayban]

Just combine them and be done with it for god's sake. You're never going to win against the imessage juggernaut unless you stop the nonsense of having multiple iterations of the same function in different packages. Why is Google emulating the early 2000's Microsoft in their lack of direction?

I don't fully understand what Google is doing here either.
[doublepost=1471378914][/doublepost]http://www.phonearena.com/news/Could-Marlin-and-Sailfish-be-Google-branded-not-Nexus_id84181

Could Marlin and Sailfish be Google-branded, not Nexus?


Maybe this explains that "G" logo we've seen from the leaks.

 

[epicrayban]

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...-4GB-RAM-SD-820-and-a-3450mAh-battery_id84212

Google Nexus Marlin specs revealed by AnTuTu: 5.5-inch screen, 4GB RAM, SD-820 and a 3450mAh battery

 

[nj-morris]

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...-4GB-RAM-SD-820-and-a-3450mAh-battery_id84212

Google Nexus Marlin specs revealed by AnTuTu: 5.5-inch screen, 4GB RAM, SD-820 and a 3450mAh battery

Not too shabby. Do we know what it looks like yet?

 

[epicrayban]

Not too shabby. Do we know what it looks like yet?

Think big HTC 10. That's my guess.

And the smaller Nexus, think HTC A9 but more confused.
[doublepost=1471447167][/doublepost]Moderators, serious question: why can't we start threads in the Alt forums just because it's also a frontpage story on MR?

This thread, for example, got locked down with one of those "Continue the discussion here..." https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/google-duo-is-live.1988386/#post-23246709

This makes little sense to me. Why can't we discuss these topics here in the Alt section, too? We discuss frontpage news here all the time.

 

[balamw]

Think big HTC 10. That's my guess.

And the smaller Nexus, think HTC A9 but more confused.
[doublepost=1471447167][/doublepost]Moderators, serious question: why can't we start threads in the Alt forums just because it's also a frontpage story on MR?

This thread, for example, got locked down with one of those "Continue the discussion here..." https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/google-duo-is-live.1988386/#post-23246709

This makes little sense to me. Why can't we discuss these topics here in the Alt section, too? We discuss frontpage news here all the time.

MOD NOTE: because it leads to double posts and a split conversation.

Posters will post the same content in both threads or think they have posted in one when in fact they have posted in the other.

You are free to start more specific threads in Alternatives than the news threads or wait until the front page thread activity has died down.

EDIT: FWIW the question should have been asked in Site and Forum Feedback.

B

 

[epicrayban]

MOD NOTE: because it leads to double posts and a split conversation.

Posters will post the same content in both threads or think they have posted in one when in fact they have posted in the other.

You are free to start more specific threads in Alternatives than the news threads or wait until the front page thread activity has died down.

EDIT: FWIW the question should have been asked in Site and Forum Feedback.

B

Thanks for the clarification. Appreciate it.

 

[epicrayban]

http://qlnk.io/ql/57bb26f8e4b0c4940c7b4e8a
Google Allo to feature end-to-end encryption, disappearing messages and built-in search


Cool. Still waiting for the desktop feature to continue conversations... otherwise, still going to continue using Hangouts.

 

[Mackan]

Ughhh, why is that bottom bezel so freakin huge? Good news is the top bezel looks slimmed down, but I'm not sure the pic makes sense because no one does offset top/bottom bezels like that, even though personally I think it makes sense if you have a fp reader on the front. Unless it's just the angle that's throwing me off. It looks quite thick/chunky as well. This definitely my suspicion HTC would make a fugly phone like the 10.

Another positive is the glass upper back, as I'm hoping that means wireless charging, although it seems like a small area for that. I'm getting fed up with these metal phones which can't do wireless charging, it's 2016 not 2012.

HTC has always put their logo at the bottom, taking up extra bezel space. I've avoided them because of that. Seems if they can't put their logo there, they will still keep a massive bezel just to continue make subpar products. I honestly expect this Nexus to be a flop in many ways. A Nexus phone has always been about compromises, because no OEM wants to make it too good, to compete with thier own flagships. That plus HTC, very low expectations...

 

[Tig Bitties]

HTC has always put their logo at the bottom, taking up extra bezel space. I've avoided them because of that. Seems if they can't put their logo there, they will still keep a massive bezel just to continue make subpar products. I honestly expect this Nexus to be a flop in many ways. A Nexus phone has always been about compromises, because no OEM wants to make it too good, to compete with thier own flagships. That plus HTC, very low expectations...

But you need to keep in mind, the performance for the dollar the Nexus phones offer.

Last years Nexus 6P was an amazing phone for Fall 2015, priced at $499, with current flagship specs for the day, matching the hardware found in other flagships for 2015, such as the Galaxy S6, LG G4, LG V10, HTC One M9, etc... and all of those phones were selling for like $650 to $700, and I'd take the 6P all day long over any of those other skinned phones.

 

[epicrayban]

How come Google released Nougat so early this year? Don't they normally release with the hardware?

 

[jamezr]

How come Google released Nougat so early this year? Don't they normally release with the hardware?

Yeah it doesn't make sense to me. Why not wait and let the Nexus be the first phone with Nougat?

 

[tbayrgs]

How come Google released Nougat so early this year? Don't they normally release with the hardware?

Yeah it doesn't make sense to me. Why not wait and let the Nexus be the first phone with Nougat?

First, I qualify that this is pure personal speculation.

That being said, releases of new versions of Android barely register a blip on the radar of general consumers, if even at all. There is no fanfare, no spectacle, because the number of phones that will actually receive it in any sort of timely fashion are minuscule by comparison to those that won't. What's the advantage of saving its release? It hasn't meant anything in past years so why bother tying it to new Nexus phones? There is no ground swell of consumers waiting for the next version Android or new Nexus devices.

Second, I think this year is a little different in that Google is going to have a bunch of new features and functionality (Allo, Google Assistant, Google Home, Daydream VR), that Google will likely want to focus on and present front and center to consumers. I think these will carry more oomph than the largely trivial (but excellent) or under-the-hood adjustments made in Nougat (multi-window, improved notifications, improved Doze power management) so I'd expect to see these coincide with the Nexus phone releases.

I don't see any real advantage to waiting. LG wants to release their newest phone (V20) with the latest version of Android. Delaying Nougat means LG either has to just use Marshmallow and we have yet another major phone in the wild with software that's out of date in a month, or they are forced to hold off releasing the phone, something else that doesn't benefit Google. Putting it out now is a kin to Apple releasing their newest version of iOS a week and a half before the latest versions of iPhones. And let's be honest, Google could use every available day possible to try to get newer versions of Android out to their existing customers as.

Just my $0.02.

 

[epicrayban]

Great point. Not complaining. Just curious if they had stated some reason. Perhaps you nailed it.

 

[jamezr]

First, I qualify that this is pure personal speculation.

That being said, releases of new versions of Android barely register a blip on the radar of general consumers, if even at all. There is no fanfare, no spectacle, because the number of phones that will actually receive it in any sort of timely fashion are minuscule by comparison to those that won't. What's the advantage of saving its release? It hasn't meant anything in the past years so why bother tying it to new Nexus phones? There is no ground swell of consumers waiting for the next version Android or new Nexus devices.

Second, I think this year is a little different in that Google is going to have a bunch of new features and functionality (Allo, Google Assistant, Google Home, Daydream VR), that Google will likely want to focus on and present front and center to consumers. I think these will carry more oomph than the largely trivial (but excellent) or under-the-hood other adjustments made in Nougat (multi-window, improved notifications, improved Doze power management) so I'd expect to see these coincide with the Nexus phone releases.

I don't see any real advantage to waiting. LG wants to release their newest phone (V20) with the latest version of Android Delaying Nougat means LG either has to just use Marshmallow and we have yet another major phone in the wild with software that's out of date in a month, or they are forced to hold off releasing the phone, something else that doesn't benefit Google. Putting it out now is a kin to Apple releasing their newest version of iOS a week and a half before the latest versions of iPhones. And let's be honest, Google could use every available day possible to try to get newer versions of Android out to their existing customers as.

Just my $0.02.

Good points all....my questions seemed more to do with the OEM that is making the Nexus phones. It would seem to be a big selling point to me. Produce the Nexus phone and be the first to market with a phone running Nougat. Wasn't the Huawei 6P the first phone you could get with MM last year?

 

[epicrayban]

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...xus-Sailfish-prices-reportedly-leaked_id84627

Google Nexus Marlin and Nexus Sailfish prices reportedly leaked


In this regard, the 32GB models of both Google Nexus Marlin and Nexus Sailfish will be available for purchase for $599 and $499, respectively.

 

[jamezr]

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...xus-Sailfish-prices-reportedly-leaked_id84627

Google Nexus Marlin and Nexus Sailfish prices reportedly leaked


In this regard, the 32GB models of both Google Nexus Marlin and Nexus Sailfish will be available for purchase for $599 and $499, respectively.

So that means the Nexus Marlin 32GB is $100 more than the Nexus 6P 32GB($499) when it was released last year.

 

[epicrayban]

That design is going to be so polarizing.

And now with the rumored prices... I don't know. Not thrilled.

 

[tbayrgs]

So that means the Nexus Marlin 32GB is $100 more than the Nexus 6P 32GB($499) when it was released last year.

That design is going to be so polarizing.

And now with the rumored prices... I don't know. Not thrilled.

I don't personally have a problem paying near flagship level prices if it offers near flagship level hardware and performance. That being said, if this really is the true design, it's jealous of the iPhone's bezels . Why the giant chin and forehead without either a front located home/fingerprint scanner or front facing stereo speakers? And the 'that space is needed for internal hardware' no longer holds any water when phones already exist that better utilize those spaces AND have smaller bezels.

And what are we getting that's a significant improvement over the 6P (the 5X seems to have been a dumpster fire for so many people so I won't include it in the this arguement)? A CPU bump? Has OIS actually been comfirmed this year? IIRC, I thought it was speculated to actually have the same camera sensors as the 6P. Anyone other significant advantages over the 6P? What would entice me to pay $100 more vs. the 6P, a phone still holding up very well against today's current offerings? And with the added rumor that there will only be 32GB and 128GB models, you're going to pay even more for a storage bump.

Again, I'm fine paying top prices for top levels of performance, hardware, and design. Unless Google surprises us with something not already leaked/speculated, I'm not seeing why one would choose it over other choices.

 

[Oohara]

I don't personally have a problem paying near flagship level prices if it offers near flagship level hardware and performance. That being said, if this really is the true design, it's jealous of the iPhone's bezels . Why the giant chin and forehead without either a front located home/fingerprint scanner or front facing stereo speakers? And the 'that space is needed for internal hardware' no longer holds any water when phones already exist that better utilize those spaces AND have smaller bezels.

And what are we getting that's a significant improvement over the 6P (the 5X seems to have been a dumpster fire for so many people so I won't include it in the this arguement)? A CPU bump? Has OIS actually been comfirmed this year? IIRC, I thought it was speculated to actually have the same camera sensors as the 6P. Anyone other significant advantages over the 6P? What would entice me to pay $100 more vs. the 6P, a phone still holding up very well against today's current offerings? And with the added rumor that there will only be 32GB and 128GB models, you're going to pay even more for a storage bump.

Again, I'm fine paying top prices for top levels of performance, hardware, and design. Unless Google surprises us with something not already leaked/speculated, I'm not seeing why one would choose it over other choices.

I don't get it either. If it comes out looking like that, it'll be the nosedive of the year. Especially when Samsung just set a new design paradigm with the Note 7.

 

[MRU]

I don't get it either. If it comes out looking like that, it'll be the nosedive of the year. Especially when Samsung just set a new design paradigm with the Note 7.

In fairness it has quite the nosedive to do if it is going to surpass the general reaction the LG G5 after release.

 

[davidgolfer]

That does not look appealing at all. I thought that if google went and put it's name on a phone it would be really impressive. Hopefully they have something else up their sleeves. We really need another competitor to push Samsung and apple.