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epicrayban

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Blurry leak of a supposed Pixel XL:

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That bottom bezel... I'm aghast.
 
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epicrayban

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Possibly it's because of the onscreen button area make it look bigger than potentially is ?

Even so.

It looks very iPhone without the home button though doesn't it ....

Yep. The difference is, Apple can afford to wait another year before redesigning their bezels/form factor. Google can, too, I guess, but this isn't the best way to launch the design of a Pixel phone, IMO (and then there's the questionable back design, too).

Large bezel but no home button and no dual speakers. So far, no dice.
 
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MRU

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Even so.



Yep. The difference is, Apple can afford to wait another year before redesigning their bezels/form factor. Google can, too, I guess, but this isn't the best way to launch the design of a Pixel phone, IMO (and then there's the questionable back design, too).

Large bezel but no home button and no dual speakers. So far, no dice.

It's the rear personally that I don't like, I just don't understand the design at all. It's frankly strange ....
 

ChrisWard1994

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On a brighter note, the size of the side bezels look really small, which is a bigger deal to me personally than the top and bottom bezels.
 

nj-morris

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Installed Pixel Launcher onto my S6 Edge+. Loving it so far.

Why can't the phone have hardware like the Pixel C? That was one well built device.
 

epicrayban

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SIDE RANT:

This is why I feel the Nexus advantage of prompt software updates versus other Android OEM's 3-6 month update process is so overblown. By the second year, the Nexus devices don't get the roll out for weeks, if not over a month. When did Nougat roll out again?

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...ndroid-7.0-Nougat-in-the-coming-weeks_id85421

Google Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 LTE should be updated to Android 7.0 Nougat in the coming weeks


It just makes the decision to stay with Samsung all the more easy. Even current generation Nexus devices don't get the update right away; they're also on a rolling schedule.

I actually think this model of updating is the best because it leads to less issues and you don't have to deal with bricked phones and whatnot, so I'm actually not complaining. Only pointing out the so called giant advantage of updates between Google phones and other OEM phones just aren't a dealbreaker to me. I can wait a little longer for a full version software update if it means I am carrying with me daily the best screen, camera, and other useful daily features like wireless charging and waterproofing. I was caught in the rain the other day, and used my S7E without any hesitation. The fact that TouchWiz is already feature-rich, and the fact that Google updates their core apps on a regular basis all year round also makes it easier to skip a Nexus device.

Maybe that'll change with the Pixel devices, though...
 
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Wildo6882

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SIDE RANT:

This is why I feel the Nexus advantage of prompt software updates versus other Android OEM's 3-6 month update process is so overblown. By the second year, the Nexus devices don't get the roll out for weeks, if not over a month. When did Nougat roll out again?

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...ndroid-7.0-Nougat-in-the-coming-weeks_id85421

Google Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 LTE should be updated to Android 7.0 Nougat in the coming weeks


It just makes the decision to stay with Samsung all the more easy. Even current generation Nexus devices don't get the update right away; they're also on a rolling schedule.

I actually think this model of updating is the best because it leads to less issues and you don't have to deal with bricked phones and whatnot, so I'm actually not complaining. Only pointing out the so called giant advantage of updates between Google phones and other OEM phones just aren't a dealbreaker to me. I can wait a little longer for a full version software update if it means I am carrying with me daily the best screen, camera, and other useful daily features like wireless charging and waterproofing. I was caught in the rain the other day, and used my S7E without any hesitation. The fact that TouchWiz is already feature-rich, and the fact that Google updates their core apps on a regular basis all year round also makes it easier to skip a Nexus device.

Maybe that'll change with the Pixel devices, though...

I've been saying this for a long time to anyone who will actually listen. Most of what Nougat has to offer is little upgrade over your phone on Marshmallow. As long as you get security updates and as long as Google continues to update its core apps, you're fine. This is why the Apple way of doing things is not equal to the Android way of doing things. People argue this as a benefit to iOS and Apple devices, but they just aren't one in the same. If Apple wants to update a feature to the camera, guess what? They have to release an entire OS update. They can't just update their camera app.
 
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spinedoc77

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SIDE RANT:

This is why I feel the Nexus advantage of prompt software updates versus other Android OEM's 3-6 month update process is so overblown. By the second year, the Nexus devices don't get the roll out for weeks, if not over a month. When did Nougat roll out again?

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...ndroid-7.0-Nougat-in-the-coming-weeks_id85421

Google Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 LTE should be updated to Android 7.0 Nougat in the coming weeks


It just makes the decision to stay with Samsung all the more easy. Even current generation Nexus devices don't get the update right away; they're also on a rolling schedule.

I actually think this model of updating is the best because it leads to less issues and you don't have to deal with bricked phones and whatnot, so I'm actually not complaining. Only pointing out the so called giant advantage of updates between Google phones and other OEM phones just aren't a dealbreaker to me. I can wait a little longer for a full version software update if it means I am carrying with me daily the best screen, camera, and other useful daily features like wireless charging and waterproofing. I was caught in the rain the other day, and used my S7E without any hesitation. The fact that TouchWiz is already feature-rich, and the fact that Google updates their core apps on a regular basis all year round also makes it easier to skip a Nexus device.

Maybe that'll change with the Pixel devices, though...

Hmm, I think I'd still rather wait a few weeks than 9 months. 9 freakin months. 10/5/15 to 6/23/16. I suspect the only reason the carriers have to do their own testing is because of all their bloatware. Take Verizon for example, they completely changed the settings menu of the Note 7, removed Samsung Cloud and Caller ID, and removed the device maintenance portion. This is all Samsung's fault for not dictating their phone be released with no changes. Samsung sells a LOT of phones through the carriers, so why can't it fix this? No one, and I mean no on challenges Apple on this.

But I understand where you are coming from, especially if the update doesn't have anything in it that you need. Nougat has some cool stuff that I was highly looking forward to, but I now realize that even when the Note 7 gets Nougat both Samsung and the carriers will adulterate it. So for me it's not only the timeframe of updates, but also getting those updates in the purest form the way Google intended them.
 
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epicrayban

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Hmm, I think I'd still rather wait a few weeks than 9 months. 9 freakin months. 10/5/15 to 6/23/16. I suspect the only reason the carriers have to do their own testing is because of all their bloatware. Take Verizon for example, they completely changed the settings menu of the Note 7, removed Samsung Cloud and Caller ID, and removed the device maintenance portion. This is all Samsung's fault for not dictating their phone be released with no changes. Samsung sells a LOT of phones through the carriers, so why can't it fix this? No one, and I mean no on challenges Apple on this.

But I understand where you are coming from, especially if the update doesn't have anything in it that you need. Nougat has some cool stuff that I was highly looking forward to, but I now realize that even when the Note 7 gets Nougat both Samsung and the carriers will adulterate it. So for me it's not only the timeframe of updates, but also getting those updates in the purest form the way Google intended them.

Very much agree with what you say here.

Goodness, what phone took nine months?

And yeah, I loathe Verizon.
 
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Roadstar

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Reading the comments above reminds me about how grateful I am about the fact that carriers over here don't add any BS customizations (at least not anymore, I had a customized boot logo on a ZTE device back in the day) and/or mess with the updates. Once the OEM pushes out an update, it gets to the phones without any unnecessary additional interference.
 
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epicrayban

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I got to handle Nougat on a nexus 5x today. Really loved it. The alt tab feature was amazing. Quick, responsive, and so useful.

I also am loving the notifications. They're just cleaner and easier to read and act on.

Nougat is a beauty. A lot to like.
 

jsw

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Blurry leak of a supposed Pixel XL:
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That bottom bezel... I'm aghast.
The top and bottom bezels are equal in size (don't be fooled by display features that look like part of the bezel. Remember that the XL is meant to be used with Daydream, and so some bezel might be required for the physical VR viewer to work effectively. I don't know that it is or isn't, but wait and see how Daydream uses this before dismissing the design.
 

spinedoc77

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The top and bottom bezels are equal in size (don't be fooled by display features that look like part of the bezel. Remember that the XL is meant to be used with Daydream, and so some bezel might be required for the physical VR viewer to work effectively. I don't know that it is or isn't, but wait and see how Daydream uses this before dismissing the design.

Plus those horrible soft buttons take up space, effectively making the bezel larger.
 

JaySoul

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Look, you lot...

Last year, we sat through this whole "the leaks look ugly!" thing with the Nexus 6P but now loads of you are saying it's the best Android phone ever in the history of civilisation etc.

So let's just wait 3 weeks and find out once all the information comes to hand. And obvs once MRU buys one.
 

Vegastouch

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SIDE RANT:

This is why I feel the Nexus advantage of prompt software updates versus other Android OEM's 3-6 month update process is so overblown. By the second year, the Nexus devices don't get the roll out for weeks, if not over a month. When did Nougat roll out again?

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...ndroid-7.0-Nougat-in-the-coming-weeks_id85421

Google Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 LTE should be updated to Android 7.0 Nougat in the coming weeks


It just makes the decision to stay with Samsung all the more easy. Even current generation Nexus devices don't get the update right away; they're also on a rolling schedule.

I actually think this model of updating is the best because it leads to less issues and you don't have to deal with bricked phones and whatnot, so I'm actually not complaining. Only pointing out the so called giant advantage of updates between Google phones and other OEM phones just aren't a dealbreaker to me. I can wait a little longer for a full version software update if it means I am carrying with me daily the best screen, camera, and other useful daily features like wireless charging and waterproofing. I was caught in the rain the other day, and used my S7E without any hesitation. The fact that TouchWiz is already feature-rich, and the fact that Google updates their core apps on a regular basis all year round also makes it easier to skip a Nexus device.

Maybe that'll change with the Pixel devices, though...

You know, i havent noticed huge changes in the updates anyways. Sure there are some different looks to a few things but really so what? I know some have to have it right away but i dont. Nothing that ive noticed that is exciting anyways. Nexus items are just too bland for me anyways. Having the Nexus 5 really made me realize that.

The lack of volume really turned me off, the fact i couldnt connect it to an airline because Nexus isnt a recognized device, ....just turned me of more. Camera was slow and not great. I dont know if it is LG or Nexus but i wont be running to get another one.

I still havent used the wireless charging but nice to know i can do it. Ill at some point get a wireless charger when i find a deal on one but not something i need since the fast charging is great.
 
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Cole Slaw

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Look, you lot...

Last year, we sat through this whole "the leaks look ugly!" thing with the Nexus 6P but now loads of you are saying it's the best Android phone ever in the history of civilisation etc.

So let's just wait 3 weeks and find out once all the information comes to hand. And obvs once MRU buys one.
Quite true. I thought the 6P was ugly in those early photos (that "brow" on back) but later owned one and it wasn't bad at all.
Maybe I shouldn't judge the phone till our official representative (MRU) has a chance to give us his "yay" or "nay" on the device. :)
 

tbayrgs

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Quite true. I thought the 6P was ugly in those early photos (that "brow" on back) but later owned one and it wasn't bad at all.
Maybe I shouldn't judge the phone till our official representative (MRU) has a chance to give us his "yay" or "nay" on the device. :)

Agree to a point. I thought the 6P was pretty damn ugly in the leaks as well. I've been a proud owner of one since May and while I like it (very similar feel in hand and size as my 6s+), I still wouldn't call it a very attractive phone. Definitely a little nicer in person but certainly not a stunner. ;)
 
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verpeiler

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Good points all....my questions seemed more to do with the OEM that is making the Nexus phones. It would seem to be a big selling point to me. Produce the Nexus phone and be the first to market with a phone running Nougat. Wasn't the Huawei 6P the first phone you could get with MM last year?
Because it isn't a huge selling point, especially for the customers that matter: average joes.
Most people don't even know what Android is. I bet 98% of all apple customers don't know what iOS is or means.
 
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