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AustinIllini

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That's nothing I find important, but you're probably right.
I don't find it that important for my needs either, but the Nexus line is constantly knocked for its camera. The current generation is the first to minimize the number of compromises. It would be awesome to see the Nexus line do something really special.
 

lowendlinux

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I don't find it that important for my needs either, but the Nexus line is constantly knocked for its camera. The current generation is the first to minimize the number of compromises. It would be awesome to see the Nexus line do something really special.

I got my Nexus 5 about 6 weeks ago now and IMHO it is special because it's the most flexible phone out there. No the battery life isn't special and no the camera isn't special there is nothing a reviewer can point to objectively and say THIS is the reason to buy a Nexus but that doesn't make it not special.
 

AustinIllini

macrumors G5
Oct 20, 2011
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I got my Nexus 5 about 6 weeks ago now and IMHO it is special because it's the most flexible phone out there. No the battery life isn't special and no the camera isn't special there is nothing a reviewer can point to objectively and say THIS is the reason to buy a Nexus but that doesn't make it not special.
IMHO, the Nexus 5 is the greatest Android phone when adjusted for history. The Nexus 6P is up there, but LG really nailed the hardware on the Nexus 5 from a design standpoint.
 
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BlueGoldAce

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IMHO, the Nexus 5 is the greatest Android phone when adjusted for history. The Nexus 6P is up there, but LG really nailed the hardware on the Nexus 5 from a design standpoint.
I'd rank it a tie with the 6p. Design and size of the nexus 5 was wonderful, as was the cost. Unfortunately I never could get good reception with that phone, and its declined to keep it.

I think, for a large screen phone, the nexus 6p is very well design. The features (fingerprint, front speakers) power, camera, screen quality, and battery life favor the 6p. The cost is reasonable, though the nexus 5 a down right bargain. I am enjoying my 60 more than any iOS or Android device before it.

All in all I think it's a tie, with the worst nexus going to either the galaxy nexus or nexus 6. I like my nexus 6, and kept it for a good while, but price alone killed it in the rankings.


I am convinced a Pixel phone would be killer.
 

AustinIllini

macrumors G5
Oct 20, 2011
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I'd rank it a tie with the 6p. Design and size of the nexus 5 was wonderful, as was the cost. Unfortunately I never could get good reception with that phone, and its declined to keep it.

I think, for a large screen phone, the nexus 6p is very well design. The features (fingerprint, front speakers) power, camera, screen quality, and battery life favor the 6p. The cost is reasonable, though the nexus 5 a down right bargain. I am enjoying my 60 more than any iOS or Android device before it.

All in all I think it's a tie, with the worst nexus going to either the galaxy nexus or nexus 6. I like my nexus 6, and kept it for a good while, but price alone killed it in the rankings.


I am convinced a Pixel phone would be killer.
This is my assessment as well. I would call the 6p and 5 even as the Nexus 5 was the first serious Nexus at a great price and the Nexus 6P is the first great Premium Nexus device.

For me, the Nexus 4 does poorly in the "adjusted for time" test. The Nexus 4 was a great device with a GIANT compromise (No LTE. At that point, even Apple had LTE). The Nexus One and Nexus S were both pretty good. Agreed on the Galaxy Nexus as the worst.
 

BlueGoldAce

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This is my assessment as well. I would call the 6p and 5 even as the Nexus 5 was the first serious Nexus at a great price and the Nexus 6P is the first great Premium Nexus device.

For me, the Nexus 4 does poorly in the "adjusted for time" test. The Nexus 4 was a great device with a GIANT compromise (No LTE. At that point, even Apple had LTE). The Nexus One and Nexus S were both pretty good. Agreed on the Galaxy Nexus as the worst.
Absolutely.

I bought the galaxy nexus used, and sold it two weeks later. That is when Android started to over take iOS software wise, IMO, but that phone was poor.
 

AustinIllini

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Oct 20, 2011
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Absolutely.

I bought the galaxy nexus used, and sold it two weeks later. That is when Android started to over take iOS software wise, IMO, but that phone was poor.
I'm just guessing here, I can't quite remember. Galaxy Nexus was ICS, which was when Holo was introduced. I would agree. When Holo was introduced, iOS was in the aging Forestall first Gen iOS look. Holo was such a breath of fresh air on ICS.
 

BlueGoldAce

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I'm just guessing here, I can't quite remember. Galaxy Nexus was ICS, which was when Holo was introduced. I would agree. When Holo was introduced, iOS was in the aging Forestall first Gen iOS look. Holo was such a breath of fresh air on ICS.
That is correct.

Holo was introduced, while jelly beans refined performance with project butter, etc.

Similar to the lollipop to marshmallow. Which, IMO, Marshmallow the best mobile OS ever created up to this point.
 

AustinIllini

macrumors G5
Oct 20, 2011
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Austin, TX
That is correct.

Holo was introduced, while jelly beans refined performance with project butter, etc.

Similar to the lollipop to marshmallow. Which, IMO, Marshmallow the best mobile OS ever created up to this point.
Agreed on all counts. It really makes me want a Pixel phone, because the mobile OS is so advanced, I want Google to spec out a phone completely internally.
 

BlueGoldAce

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A new nexus 7 would be great , though it's too small for my taste. I recently swapped my iPad air 2 for the galaxy tab s2 (love it, glad I made the change)...so 9.7 continues to be the sweet spot for me. The weight of the s2 makes it perfect.

Anyway, I'm sure htc could do fine, but I'm just as happy if they keep the current maker. The 6p is a great piece of hardware.
 
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Fernandez21

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A new nexus 7 would be great , though it's too small for my taste. I recently swapped my iPad air 2 for the galaxy tab s2 (love it, glad I made the change)...so 9.7 continues to be the sweet spot for me. The weight of the s2 makes it perfect.

Anyway, I'm sure htc could do fine, but I'm just as happy if they keep the current maker. The 6p is a great piece of hardware.
Yeah, the tabs look nice. Waiting for a new 10" Note though, hasn't been updated in 2 years.
 
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nj-morris

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I wasn't a fan of the Nexus 7. It was a little more portable than a tablet and a little more productive than a phone, sure, but it was way less portable than a phone and way less productive than a tablet. It just wasn't a good blend at all.
I say ditch that, make a good size tablet, maybe something similar to the iPad Mini. This is a necessity, especially since most tablet manufacturers have moved to the 4:3 aspect ratio.
 

tbayrgs

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I wasn't a fan of the Nexus 7. It was a little more portable than a tablet and a little more productive than a phone, sure, but it was way less portable than a phone and way less productive than a tablet. It just wasn't a good blend at all.
I say ditch that, make a good size tablet, maybe something similar to the iPad Mini. This is a necessity, especially since most tablet manufacturers have moved to the 4:3 aspect ratio.

My wife still uses my old Nexus 7 (2013), predominantly as an e-reader which the size and ease of one handed use is perfect for. Otherwise though I have to agree...16:10 display ratios are terrible on tablets, especially for webpage viewing.
 

MasterRyu2011

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This is my assessment as well. I would call the 6p and 5 even as the Nexus 5 was the first serious Nexus at a great price and the Nexus 6P is the first great Premium Nexus device.

For me, the Nexus 4 does poorly in the "adjusted for time" test. The Nexus 4 was a great device with a GIANT compromise (No LTE. At that point, even Apple had LTE). The Nexus One and Nexus S were both pretty good. Agreed on the Galaxy Nexus as the worst.

Wasn't the Nexus 4 a Tmobile exclusive? Having LTE at the time, if you're a Tmobile customer, wasn't a big benefit because Tmobile HSPA 4G connection was just as fast practically.
 

Tig Bitties

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Do you 6P owners till recommend this phone ? Or are newer phones like the S7 Edge or G5 more tempting now.

I have always liked stock vanilla AOSP ROM's, but battery life is super important to me, not sure how good the 6P is once tweaked with a good kernel and ROM ?
 

Surf Donkey

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People are getting crazy (like 7+ SOT hours) battery life supposedly with custom kernels over at XDA. So it does seem possible. Stock 6p and kernel for me though (typical 4 hrs SOT, but never ran out of battery even on travel days). I am just finding the stock experience perfect (came from 2 years of iOS) and don't really want to fool with it.

The new Galaxies are sexy as hell, but I don't think the revision of the 810 in the 6P and the 820 will be all that different. And I don't want a smaller phone with Touchwiz. I love Android too much.

Camera sounds better, but the 6P is the best I have ever had on a phone, so I am content. Now the Note 6 could tempt me :). At least for that , Touchwiz add some cool functionality.
 
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jamezr

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Aug 7, 2011
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People are getting crazy (like 7+ SOT hours) battery life supposedly with custom kernels over at XDA. So it does seem possible. Stock 6p and kernel for me though (typical 4 hrs SOT, but never ran out of battery even on travel days). I am just finding the stock experience perfect (came from 2 years of iOS) and don't really want to fool with it.

The new Galaxies are sexy as hell, but I don't think the revision of the 810 in the 6P and the 820 will be all that different. And I don't want a smaller phone with Touchwiz. I love Android too much.

Camera sounds better, but the 6P is the best I have ever had on a phone, so I am content. Now the Note 6 could tempt me :). At least for that , Touchwiz add some cool functionality.
See this I don't understand from people that complain about TW. They say stock Android is better and consumes less resources. Yet you just said in order to get great battery life from the 6P you have to unlock the BL and flash a custom kernel/rom! Makes no senses to me. If Tw is what is holding the Galaxy line back.....what is holding the 6P and stock Android back? I mean shouldn't the 6P with stock be getting rediculous battery life on it's own? It doesn't have TW holding it back so to speak.
 
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Tig Bitties

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See this I don't understand from people that complain about TW. They say stock Android is better and consumes less resources. Yet you just said in order to get great battery life from the 6P you have to unlock the BL and flash a custom kernel/rom! Makes no senses to me. If Tw is what is holding the Galaxy line back.....what is holding the 6P and stock Android back? I mean shouldn't the 6P with stock be getting rediculous battery life on it's own? It doesn't have TW holding it back so to speak.

I used to be a HUGE Nexus phone fan, but after owning my Note 5 for the past six months it has opened my eyes, that Touchwiz isn't that bad, and gets very good battery life for only having a 3,000mAh battery.

But yeah, the Nexus phone always have less apps running in the background, and a lighter OS overall, uses much less RAM, etc...but Touchwiz phones always get batter battery life, with tons of background stuff running, and it's a hog on the system RAM, but somehow it gets good battery life.

My Motorola Nexus 6 with a 3,200mAh battery, I had ROM'd and a battery friendly kernel tweaked, and I was lucky to get 4.5h to 5h Screen On time at best. Now my Note 5 with a smaller 3,000mAh can easily get 5.5h Screen On time, a lot of times 6h. I know it's not apples to apples comparison, but they were both Lollipop based, same resolution screen, and same app setup. But it does seems the heavy Touchwiz UI phones somehow manage better battery life over the lightweight vanilla Android OS
 
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Surf Donkey

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See this I don't understand from people that complain about TW. They say stock Android is better and consumes less resources. Yet you just said in order to get great battery life from the 6P you have to unlock the BL and flash a custom kernel/rom! Makes no senses to me. If Tw is what is holding the Galaxy line back.....what is holding the 6P and stock Android back? I mean shouldn't the 6P with stock be getting rediculous battery life on it's own? It doesn't have TW holding it back so to speak.

I don't really look at it from the aspect of battery life. I just don't like TouchWiz. I don't like carrier bloat. Plus it is just so easy to root on a Nexus if you want, has an amazing development community, it is kind of part of the experience. There are lots of choices for everyone.

And yeah, I don't think the 6P is as amazing on battery life as it could be out of the box. But I am perfectly happy with it. I don't use my phone enough in a day to need 6+ hours SOT. I just will never go back to anything but Stock after being spoiled by the clean experience and update support directly from Google.
 
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