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SurferMan

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Yes, the Nexus is first and foremost for developers, but the Nexus tablets have always been sold in stores next to all the other tablets aimed at consumers. It was the same with the Nexus 6, I can walk into Carphone Warehouse and it will be on the display next to the other phones.
So here in the UK at least the Nexus range are sold along side other consumer products. So to me its a developers platform that's aimed at consumers also.

Anyway, the battery life of the new LG Nexus will be fine if they keep a 1080p screen and increase the battery size from the Nexus 5. But it won't be Sony good. The camera I is what I've been trying to figure out, it could have strong hardware but as we know it'll run stock Android camera software. And that's a worry.
On my Nexus 5 the camera was improved to being pretty good for what it is, but then updates seemed to make it slower and it refocuses a lot more. Maybe Android 6 will improve it? But it is a worry.
Bingo, and there in lies the problem. Nexus may be a "developer" line however its pushed and advertised in stores like a normal consumer device. I've had friends that have bought them as the AT&T store etc would just talk about it like it was a phone and nothing about developing etc. The friends would beotch and moan, from the camera being crappy, horrible batter life, to many many glitches and bugs. I've owned a couple of them and each time I regretted it, even with a custom Rom just didn't care for the phones.

You or I and others online pry know what the Nexus was really targeted for, unfortunately the masses don't and just think its a normal phone and regardless of being told of faster updates etc, doesn't mean much when updates on the Nexus line are generally buggy as f' or fix somethings and then break other things in the update lol. Just look at XDA, Nexus boards are pry filled with more complaints and issues then any other board.

Kinda the same thing with the Nexus 9, returned two of them for well known faults and issues. I just wish Google would get their act together and really do something with the Nexus line as it has huge potential if they did, especially since its being pushed as consumer devices, even if that meant a price increase.
 
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Ddyracer

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So i just read the recent XDA article on the 810. The rumors are strongly pointing towards the nexus 5.7 to have the overheating chip. Not sure how good a decision this is. Maybe google will underclock and or undervolt it if they have any sense. Apparently v2 still has problems.
 

epicrayban

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So i just read the recent XDA article on the 810. The rumors are strongly pointing towards the nexus 5.7 to have the overheating chip. Not sure how good a decision this is. Maybe google will underclock and or undervolt it if they have any sense. Apparently v2 still has problems.

Sounds like a recipe for disaster...

Samsung really did themselves a huge favor by producing their own chips for their 2015 flagships. I don't want you go any where near a snapdragon 810 device this year...
 

Fireblade

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Sorry for OT

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Ddyracer

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Well just poked around some benchmarks and the Mali-T760MP8 is pretty much on par with the 810's adreno 430 and is actually a little faster in some cases.

As for the rest of the soc they are pretty much not much apart although real world test might vary. Still, what the takeaway here is the sammy chip doesn't overheat so why the heck doesn't Google just partner up with them similar to what they did with the nexus 9?
 

epicrayban

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Well just poked around some benchmarks and the Mali-T760MP8 is pretty much on par with the 810's adreno 430 and is actually a little faster in some cases.

As for the rest of the soc they are pretty much not much apart although real world test might vary. Still, what the takeaway here is the sammy chip doesn't overheat so why the heck doesn't Google just partner up with them similar to what they did with the nexus 9?

These "Nexus" contracts are probably discussed and finalized early on in the year.

The interesting question to consider is who is Google talking to for next year's Nexus? Sony, I'm hoping.
 
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sparky08

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Yes, the Nexus is first and foremost for developers, but the Nexus tablets have always been sold in stores next to all the other tablets aimed at consumers. It was the same with the Nexus 6, I can walk into Carphone Warehouse and it will be on the display next to the other phones.
So here in the UK at least the Nexus range are sold along side other consumer products. So to me its a developers platform that's aimed at consumers also.
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I'm not a developer but I've been really happy with my Nexus 5 (and I was very happy with my Nexus 7). I'm someone that doesn't want to pay $700 for a phone or tablet. I'm willing to trade some performance for $$$.

I wouldn't buy the Nexus 6 because of the premium price. If the N6 2015 is moderately priced, I'll be buying one.
 

epicrayban

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Just curious why sony?

I like their hardware and design. I'm a big fan of glass front and back designs. I'm very careful with my devices! ;) The iPhone 4 and 4S, I think, were the best looking smartphones of their time and still hold up to some degree today. Similarly, the S6 is quite easily my favorite smartphone design ever.

There's something about glass front/back devices that look really sleek, elegant, and even futuristic to me. I put screen protectors on both the front and back glass of my S6, and as such, rock my device virtually naked. =D

Sony makes some good-to-great hardware and have some amazing designs. Their Z series in particular. Have you seen these devices in person? Very lovely.

Plus, in general, I think Google should give Sony a chance. I think Sony's smartphone division could use the spotlight. They've made some questionable (and confusing) moves with their smartphone decisions... A good Nexus 2016 device could help them right their ship.
 
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MasterRyu2011

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I like their hardware and design. I'm a big fan of glass front and back designs. I'm very careful with my devices! ;) The iPhone 4 and 4S, I think, were the best looking smartphones of their time and still hold up to some degree today. Similarly, the S6 is quite easily my favorite smartphone design ever.

There's something about glass front/back devices that look really sleek, elegant, and even futuristic to me. I put screen protectors on both the front and back glass of my S6, and as such, rock my device virtually naked. =D

Sony makes some good-to-great hardware and have some amazing designs. Their Z series in particular. Have you seen these devices in person? Very lovely.

Plus, in general, I think Google should give Sony a chance. I think Sony's smartphone division could use the spotlight. They've made some questionable (and confusing) moves with their smartphone decisions... A good Nexus 2016 device could help them right their ship.

Couldn't agree more. If I'm not mistaken, Sony is the only major Android OEM that has not yet partnered with Google on a Nexus device. This could be quite a benefit for both companies. The Nexus line can benefit from Sony's camera expertise, while Sony would welcome the baked-in marketing of the Nexus brand (at least to nerds and techies..haha)
 
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In regards to the Sony Nexus, I would love that to happen, in fact if the new Xperia Z5 Compact had wireless charging I may have got that instead. But Sony could do with the sales and attention of a Nexus device, they make good handsets and deserve to be noticed more.


Anyway...

It's been made official, Google has sent invites out for an event to be held on the 29th, hmm I'll read all about it on my new Note 5 by then haha....

Google just sent out the invitation below for an event in San Francisco on September 29th. This will almost definitely be the venue for the unveiling of the next Nexus phones, rumored to be manufactured by Huawei and LG. There's also a strong possibility of a new Chromecast, and who knows what else Google may have planned.

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We'll be live at the event on the 29th at 9AM PST, and you'll be able to catch it streamed on Google's YouTube channel, as well, at youtube.com/google.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...isco-of-course-its-nexuses-and-probably-more/
 
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epicrayban

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One cool new thing about the updated Google now launcher (and presumably of marshmallow) is that you can now hold the app drawer button to immediately go into app search in your app drawer. I like this.

One tap opens the app drawer and a hold opens the app drawer search. Smart and simple.

Why did they change the app drawer to top-down scrolling? Does anyone know? Have they said why?

Edit: I guess it's so they could add the alphabet scrolling thing on the right. Like when you're in the contacts app. I guess that makes sense.
 

Tig Bitties

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Just a little over a week away from the official announcement.

Super pumped to see real live up close pics of both phones, and official specs. And official Android 6.0 Marshmallows too :) :)

Huawei Nexus 6P could be a real winner. Same size screen and high quality build and overall size as the Note 5. But the Huawei is supposed to have a large 3,450mAh battery, and dual front facing speakers.

Bring it on.
 

Fanaticalism

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I'm looking forward to the under the hood improvements. Lollipop on stock Android is a joy to use and hope that M takes it a step further
 
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MRU

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I still don't understand the switch to vertical app drawer.

Likewise disappointed very basic features are still no part of March including ability to select a different lockscreen wallpaper from desktop wallpaper.

Likewise the ability to create folders in the app drawer and have a customisable order are hardly asking for the moon on a stick or things that would detract from stock android.

Indeed they would only enhance it with these basic features. Indeed stock android app drawer is actually more locked down and uncustomisable than Apple's lack of app drawer / home screen arrangement.
 

Fanaticalism

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I still don't understand the switch to vertical app drawer.

Likewise disappointed very basic features are still no part of March including ability to select a different lockscreen wallpaper from desktop wallpaper.

Likewise the ability to create folders in the app drawer and have a customisable order are hardly asking for the moon on a stick or things that would detract from stock android.

Indeed they would only enhance it with these basic features. Indeed stock android app drawer is actually more locked down and uncustomisable than Apple's lack of app drawer / home screen arrangement.
I think it has to do with continuity throughout the Os on stock. Think of this for a moment . to unlock the phone you swipe up. To scroll through information in Google now, on the web or within apps/settings, you scroll up.
 
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tbayrgs

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I still don't understand the switch to vertical app drawer...

I think both epicrayban and Fanaticalism offer valid reasons. I personally prefer vertical scrolling, like the linear approach to searching/scrolling vs. potentially numerous side swipe page turns. The 'alphabet' scrolling option makes moving though what can be a pretty extensive list very quick.

Why did they change the app drawer to top-down scrolling? Does anyone know? Have they said why?

Edit: I guess it's so they could add the alphabet scrolling thing on the right. Like when you're in the contacts app. I guess that makes sense.

I think it has to do with continuity throughout the Os on stock. Think of this for a moment . to unlock the phone you swipe up. To scroll through information in Google now, on the web or within apps/settings, you scroll up.
 

nj-morris

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I still don't understand the switch to vertical app drawer.

Likewise disappointed very basic features are still no part of March including ability to select a different lockscreen wallpaper from desktop wallpaper.

Likewise the ability to create folders in the app drawer and have a customisable order are hardly asking for the moon on a stick or things that would detract from stock android.

Indeed they would only enhance it with these basic features. Indeed stock android app drawer is actually more locked down and uncustomisable than Apple's lack of app drawer / home screen arrangement.

As others have said, I would prefer the vertical system, simply because it's more organised. On my iPad I'm rubbish at organising my apps, even with folders. I usually end up using spotlight. Having my apps in alphabetical order would really help. But I think there should be an option for the original drawer, for people like you. This is Android after all.
 

epicrayban

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As others have said, I would prefer the vertical system, simply because it's more organised. On my iPad I'm rubbish at organising my apps, even with folders. I usually end up using spotlight. Having my apps in alphabetical order would really help. But I think there should be an option for the original drawer, for people like you. This is Android after all.

Yes! I would like stock Android would open up even more so. Like why don't they let us customize the pull down quick toggles?

Unfortunately, it seems to be Google is removing features. For example, the keyboard no longer has "aggressive auto correct" option and has suffered for it. It doesn't auto correct some basic and obvious things anymore. Really a shame.
 

nj-morris

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Yes! I would like stock Android would open up even more so. Like why don't they let us customize the pull down quick toggles?

Unfortunately, it seems to be Google is removing features. For example, the keyboard no longer has "aggressive auto correct" option and has suffered for it. It doesn't auto correct some basic and obvious things anymore. Really a shame.

The problem is that Android is pretty much infinitely customisable, but it's not Google who make it that way, it's pretty much everybody else. But at least we have that option.
 
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MRU

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The problem is that Android is pretty much infinitely customisable, but it's not Google who make it that way, it's pretty much everybody else. But at least we have that option.
Yeah but it wouldn't kill Google to add the most basic of customisation option's without messing with the feel or function of stock android.

Not being able to change your lockscreen wallpaper independently from your homescreen wallpaper for example .

I love stock android. But there are times when itshe limitation's are worse than ios or Windows mobile in some aspects.
 
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Yeah but it wouldn't kill Google to add the most basic of customisation option's without messing with the feel or function of stock android.

Not being able to change your lockscreen wallpaper independently from your homescreen wallpaper for example .

I love stock android. But there are times when itshe limitation's are worse than ios or Windows mobile in some aspects.

As big a Nexus fan as I am, it is pretty shocking just how basic and no frills Nexus phones are. Every Nexus phone I've owned, I installed a custom ROM from day one, so those ROM's have the extra features and a lot more customization than stock.

But one day I ran it stock, and was shocked at how basic and somewhat lacking it was, I really didn't like it at all.

Gotta admit, my Note 5 is really impressing me, and I have setup to operate like my old Nexus 6, with Material Dark Theme + Nova Launcher + Lollipop icons, and it is blazing fats and smooth, but still has the useful TW features.
 
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epicrayban

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As big a Nexus fan as I am, it is pretty shocking just how basic and no frills Nexus phones are. Every Nexus phone I've owned, I installed a custom ROM from day one, so those ROM's have the extra features and a lot more customization than stock.

But one day I ran it stock, and was shocked at how basic and somewhat lacking it was, I really didn't like it at all.

Gotta admit, my Note 5 is really impressing me, and I have setup to operate like my old Nexus 6, with Material Dark Theme + Nova Launcher + Lollipop icons, and it is blazing fats and smooth, but still has the useful TW features.

Yup. Same reason why I prefer touchwiz.
 

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I have to say, getting used to TouchWiz, but my Sony tablet has some very cool features in its launcher while looking almost stock. I haven't changed a thing on it and love it, probably not as fast as stock but certainly a lot better with its features.

Anyway leaked photos of the new phone boxes:

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